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Tue May 13, 2008 3:04 pm  |
Lucia, just wanted to add that in most cases, I don't think it's the mineral oil causing the bumps. I think it's the oxygen clearing the playing field, so to speak. And note, that I said, most cases.  |
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Tue May 13, 2008 3:48 pm |
| I tried looking into P8N8- could not find anything really helpful- not like the KH websites where you can feel like you are making an informed decision. would have been interesting to see how they achieved getting the oxygen into the skin and studies showing that this actually happens with the product. maybe someone else had more luck, at any rate I certainly like the prices of KH better. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 3:52 pm |
| oh, forgot to ask, has anyone found a "face silk" cloth that they are happy with- |
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Tue May 13, 2008 3:58 pm |
| tuningmyheart wrote: |
| oh, forgot to ask, has anyone found a "face silk" cloth that they are happy with- |
No and I've not heard back from the website that I emailed concerning the face silk. I wish one of our crafty girls could come up with something. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 5:53 pm |
| BluesHeart wrote: |
| stovetop wrote: |
| Thanks everyone for the sound advice. It is time for me to place orders with Cellbone and NCN - but I think I will give my skin a rest from actives also and give Karin Herzog a try. What about Emu Oil? - is that something I should be giving up with Karin Herzog?? If after trying Karin Herzog and I decide to go back to my current routine - would there be any foreseeable problems? |
I can't imagine why you would. I think if you choose products wisely based on your skin, you should be ok. Stovetop, I got greedy and decided to do my loved NCN pumpkin mask one night and had a disaster. That's why I warned you about the acids. I think most of us here who've used acids are glad we have moved on. Somehow, the skin looks more alive without them. I know that vonstella was using Cellbone C and gave it up and hasn't looked back. I'm sure there is a way to use it though should you decide you want it. Please keep us updated. |
Hello everyone. I used my NCN peel this morning - did not do the VK2 last night so thought I would see what would happen. I left it on about 10 minutes (a little less than usual) and all went well. I rinsed with a warm towel and continued with VK2 and all is glowy and bright. Remember I do not have sensitive skin, it is oily in nature and I've been able to get away with a little tougher treatment than those with dry or sensitive complexions. Just wanted to share - For what it may be worth.
P.S. Have not used other acids for weeks - aside from 302 C Boost every third day and I like it too. My skin is just smooth these days. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 6:09 pm |
Smart move, sis. You might want to divest yourself of your white rat lab suit and sit down for awhile.  |
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Tue May 13, 2008 6:11 pm |
Today I received the Choco 2, the Essenial Mask and a sample tube of the Chocolate Comfort Cream.
Oddly, the Choco 2 smells nothing like chocolate. It has a mineral smell, very spa like.
Description
The 2% oxygen in this product ensures that the cacao theobromine provides the skin with elements for radiant beauty, a well-nourished, luscious skin and a superb result.
It’s the result of a successful union between beauty and a happy mental attitude! It’s all the pleasure of chocolate, while staying slim, that provides the skin with the beneficial ingredients of this delicious, noble raw material: Swiss chocolate!
Essential vitamins such as vitamins D and C, combined with precious mineral salts, calcium, magnesium and potassium, are surrounded by bubbles of oxygen. The oxygen provides vital energy for the skin, hydrates it, and boosts the nutritional effect of the cream, while tightening up the pores and enhancing the epidermis.
These wonderful elements have rapid results: the complexion is more even and luminous, the skin is visibly more beautiful, and the morale, seizing on the well-known anti-depressant elements of chocolate, is set fair, filled with happiness at the sight and the smell of this wonderful cosmetic cream.
The chocolate comfort cream does smell like chocolate though! |
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Tue May 13, 2008 6:36 pm |
I am back on the KH. Took a week and tried a few of the 302 products. I really do like them but with the KH it gives me a glow and firmness like I have never seen before. I think what I am going to do is take a break here and there nd alternate both.
I love using the 302C with the KH. I too have never seen my skin look like it does with the Karin Herzog. I REALLY like the H cream. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 6:39 pm |
| cookie wrote: |
I am back on the KH. Took a week and tried a few of the 302 products. I really do like them but with the KH it gives me a glow and firmness like I have never seen before. I think what I am going to do is take a break here and there nd alternate both.
I love using the 302C with the KH. I too have never seen my skin look like it does with the Karin Herzog. I REALLY like the H cream. |
Hi Cookie, bless your heart. We'll keep you away from any new lemmings. Have you tried the VK1. Maybe you need that instead of the VKA. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 6:46 pm |
Hey thanks Blues, glad to be back. I have the Vita 2 and love that. I have been back on it for 2 days and my skin has taken on a really great glow and I am going through an enormous amount of stress right now.
I am trying the cellulite creams but have not been consistent. I notice my skin looks the best with the 302 C and vita kombi. I just wish that I could use the C everyday. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:10 pm |
| BluesHeart wrote: |
| Smart move, sis. You might want to divest yourself of your white rat lab suit and sit down for awhile. |
I don't know....
I'm probably doing something very bad to my ionic charges and the osmotic pressure is going to cause the HP to explode... |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:11 pm |
| cookie wrote: |
Hey thanks Blues, glad to be back. I have the Vita 2 and love that. I have been back on it for 2 days and my skin has taken on a really great glow and I am going through an enormous amount of stress right now.
I am trying the cellulite creams but have not been consistent. I notice my skin looks the best with the 302 C and vita kombi. I just wish that I could use the C everyday. |
No, no cookie - you know the deal. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. You won't have the results....If you use the C everyday.
It is nice though, isn't it? Do you use the two products together? |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:15 pm |
| Yes sister I do use them together and my skin just looks really glowing. I really liked the fullness that the 302 gave my skin but it was lacking the vibrant look, if that makes sense. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:18 pm |
I had a meaningful conversation with Rita about KH products, she used to use KH in her spa. She said that she knows the founders, and KH hp products really help to drive other products inside the skin. And masks are fantastic especially for damaged skin, like smokers skin. She advised to apply some beneficial oil, then put a thin layer of KH mask (oxygen face can be used for the mask purposes too), put saran wrap on top. Wait 10-15 minutes and wipe the face. The same type of mask with saran wrap can be done on body, using KH hp body products.
Masks can be done once a week.
I believe she mentioned that the products are good for acne too, but since I do not have acne, I do not recollect info on acne well.
After KH hp products masks it should be easy to remove black heads by extraction, they should pop up.
Rita also confirmed that KH has special delivery of oxygen into the skin, which is very unique. And just adding HP to creams/lotions will not do the trick. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:41 pm |
| cookie wrote: |
| Yes sister I do use them together and my skin just looks really glowing. I really liked the fullness that the 302 gave my skin but it was lacking the vibrant look, if that makes sense. |
Yes, that sums sit up... fullness! I'm still alternating the KH line with the 302 drops and eye serum every other day and am really loving them both at this point! I keep that bright glowy look from KH and the 302 products add that fullness that you described . Seeing more diminishing of fine lines using both lines as well! They complement each other nicely IMHO and I don't want to be without either at this point! |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:45 pm |
| So here's my question. If 302 isn't a line that is supposed to give effects right away, then why do you suppose the two of you are seeing such quick changes? |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:49 pm |
Hmmm - good question blues... I have used the C Boost for maybe four times and this time - just yesterday I noticed the fullness. I noticed it was doing something.... Maybe the combo with O2 pushing it in. I did not combine mine though...
Ordered the 302 eye serum.... |
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Tue May 13, 2008 7:51 pm |
I was wondering the same thing. That's why I think these 2 lines are complementary to each other. Huber states that an active will stay in the skin for a few days so maybe with my alternating the 2 lines the oxygen is actually pushing the residual avocatin into my skin deeper.  I'm not complaining... just enjoying!!!!  |
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Tue May 13, 2008 8:04 pm |
lilredhead, I am glad that someone understands what I am saying about using the 2 lines. Those smile lines that form on your cheek, well I noticed they were gone with the 302. I have also been using the KH eye cream on my eyelids and that I have not stopped even while using 302 and my eyelids are less creepy.
I really love both these lines and nothing I have tried has comes close to either of these. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 8:14 pm |
As soon as I finish my hyperpigmentation focus, I am going to have add in some KH.
Drat...more $$$. But it sounds like it may be worth it!!
Editing to add: Is anyone using KH, 302 and CPs? What does your weekly routine look like? |
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Tue May 13, 2008 8:17 pm |
| cookie wrote: |
lilredhead, I am glad that someone understands what I am saying about using the 2 lines. Those smile lines that form on your cheek, well I noticed they were gone with the 302. I have also been using the KH eye cream on my eyelids and that I have not stopped even while using 302 and my eyelids are less creepy.
I really love both these lines and nothing I have tried has comes close to either of these. |
Maybe it does work more quickly on skin that isn't damaged or scarred? But you two seem to think it's the oxy pushing in the avocatin, huh? Maybe someone needs to write and ask Dr.Huber. A discovery! |
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Tue May 13, 2008 8:28 pm |
A spa that sells KH told me to use a C serum and top it with one of the Kombis. She said she uses it that way with great results. So that is why I am using the 302 C boost with KH. I haven't tried it with the 302 serum because I am afraid to do it with the avocatin.
Blues that would be great if we could find out what Dr. Huber has to say. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 8:47 pm |
| KH does boost delivery of other topicals. I learned it a hard way, when applied KH on top of Vit. C for the first time,and got dry burned skin, of cause I used too much KH too. Milder topicals and appropriate amount of KH might be a winning combination. |
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Tue May 13, 2008 8:55 pm |
| cookie wrote: |
A spa that sells KH told me to use a C serum and top it with one of the Kombis. She said she uses it that way with great results. So that is why I am using the 302 C boost with KH. I haven't tried it with the 302 serum because I am afraid to do it with the avocatin.
Blues that would be great if we could find out what Dr. Huber has to say. |
I'm quite curious about what Dr. H will say about this and am glad that using the minor actives under KH is working well for you.
The 302 line intrigues me, too, but I can't imagine giving up the KH for any length of time. Maybe incorporating some of the 302 like the eye serum, though....
Wait, does that mean I would be cheating on our "religion". LOL |
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Tue May 13, 2008 9:02 pm |
| cookie wrote: |
A spa that sells KH told me to use a C serum and top it with one of the Kombis. She said she uses it that way with great results. So that is why I am using the 302 C boost with KH. I haven't tried it with the 302 serum because I am afraid to do it with the avocatin.
Blues that would be great if we could find out what Dr. Huber has to say. |
Yeah, I've thought about using the KH over the avocatin products, but I doubt I'll try it... don't want to risk irritation. Also Huber seems to think that less is more and advises against applying 2 actives on the same day and I tend to believe that most of his advice is sound. |
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