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Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:12 pm      Reply with quote
Juliemarie wrote:
In the EDS description of Vita A Kombi, the ingredients list:
jojoba ester wheat germ glycerides tocopheryl acetate retinol parfum.


JulieMarie - you have listed the ingredients for the Vita A Kombi oil, not the Vita A Kombi products with oxygen (those definitely do not contain wheat germ). Which were you referring to?
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Oops, you are definitely right Embarassed !
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:06 pm      Reply with quote
I realized I know very little about wheat germ oil. so I went looking.
http://beauty.indobase.com/carrier-oils/wheatgerm-oil.html

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Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:13 pm      Reply with quote
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I realized I know very little about wheat germ oil. so I went looking.
http://beauty.indobase.com/carrier-oils/wheatgerm-oil.html


Looks like it might be a good thing in the right product.
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BluesHeart wrote:
I realized I know very little about wheat germ oil. so I went looking.
http://beauty.indobase.com/carrier-oils/wheatgerm-oil.html


Looks like it might be a good thing in the right product.

In the right amount, on the right skin. Surprised

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Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:18 am      Reply with quote
Question:

Been using OxyFace for 3 weeks, suddenly breaking out a lot which hasn't happened in the past 10 months. Am I purging or does my face not like the mineral oil/OF?
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:40 am      Reply with quote
I've been using the Vita Kombi 1 and the Oxygen Face Cream for I think... it must be around 4 or 5 weeks now and a few days ago I broke out on my forehead where I rarely ever get any spots. I think that my skin prefers the Vita Kombi to the Oxygen Cream. I was planning on moving up to the VAK 2 but for the moment I'm going to lay off the Oxygen Cream and stick to the Vita Kombi.

I don't know whether it's the mineral oil that's causing people to break out or perhaps because the Oxygen Cream has a higher percentage than the VAK 1.
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:42 am      Reply with quote
For those of you having some breakouts.

Application

Morning and night, apply to the face and neck without massaging into the skin. Apply only to skin that is thoroughly cleansed.

Special Note

Ideal for acne sufferers, this product is an important step in the Karin Herzog Acne Program. Used all over the facial area as a morning and night cream, with Vita-A-Kombi 3 cream used as a specific spot treatment.

It is recommended that acne sufferers visit one of the Karin Herzog oxygen beauty salons, where a professional extraction facial can be performed. If, however, you are not able to visit the salon, and wish to conduct your own extractions, it is vitally important that you understand exactly how you shuld administer such a practise. Please consult your nearest Karin Herzog qualified consultant who will advise you of the correct procedure or telephone our helpline on 0800 056 2428.

Salon conditions provide the optimum sterile environment, and eliminate the risk of cross-infection.


Also, another pov. A client of mine, early thirties was having some breakouts and JoE had her cut back oxy face use to masks three times a week and the other days she's using Vita K 1 and is having no issues.
They do tell you purging is likely and to not stop but I figure that depends on what kind of breakouts you're having. I'd definitely email or call and get advice.

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OT but because we discussed it. The natural line JoE is now selling. Anyone ever tried it?

http://www.karinherzog-jmilan.com/Fanie%20International_bymfg_21-1-1.html

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Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:27 am      Reply with quote
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For those of you having some breakouts.

Application

Morning and night, apply to the face and neck without massaging into the skin. Apply only to skin that is thoroughly cleansed.

Special Note

Ideal for acne sufferers, this product is an important step in the Karin Herzog Acne Program. Used all over the facial area as a morning and night cream, with Vita-A-Kombi 3 cream used as a specific spot treatment.

It is recommended that acne sufferers visit one of the Karin Herzog oxygen beauty salons, where a professional extraction facial can be performed. If, however, you are not able to visit the salon, and wish to conduct your own extractions, it is vitally important that you understand exactly how you shuld administer such a practise. Please consult your nearest Karin Herzog qualified consultant who will advise you of the correct procedure or telephone our helpline on 0800 056 2428.

Salon conditions provide the optimum sterile environment, and eliminate the risk of cross-infection.


Also, another pov. A client of mine, early thirties was having some breakouts and JoE had her cut back oxy face use to masks three times a week and the other days she's using Vita K 1 and is having no issues.
They do tell you purging is likely and to not stop but I figure that depends on what kind of breakouts you're having. I'd definitely email or call and get advice.


Thanks

So I shouldn't be using the oxyface on a daily basis? I do only use it in the AMs but I guess I could try it as a mask. I don't plan to get any of her other products until I'm sure this is working for me so no Vita K but I have been using my taz in the PMs as usual (no change in routine since I incorporated it). The breakouts I'm having do seem as though they result from clogged pores. Maybe I'll stop using the OF for a while and see if they subside, maybe it's just not for me considering I've been using it for 3 weeks.
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:31 am      Reply with quote
sormuimui wrote:
BluesHeart wrote:
For those of you having some breakouts.

Application

Morning and night, apply to the face and neck without massaging into the skin. Apply only to skin that is thoroughly cleansed.

Special Note

Ideal for acne sufferers, this product is an important step in the Karin Herzog Acne Program. Used all over the facial area as a morning and night cream, with Vita-A-Kombi 3 cream used as a specific spot treatment.

It is recommended that acne sufferers visit one of the Karin Herzog oxygen beauty salons, where a professional extraction facial can be performed. If, however, you are not able to visit the salon, and wish to conduct your own extractions, it is vitally important that you understand exactly how you shuld administer such a practise. Please consult your nearest Karin Herzog qualified consultant who will advise you of the correct procedure or telephone our helpline on 0800 056 2428.

Salon conditions provide the optimum sterile environment, and eliminate the risk of cross-infection.


Also, another pov. A client of mine, early thirties was having some breakouts and JoE had her cut back oxy face use to masks three times a week and the other days she's using Vita K 1 and is having no issues.
They do tell you purging is likely and to not stop but I figure that depends on what kind of breakouts you're having. I'd definitely email or call and get advice.


Thanks

So I shouldn't be using the oxyface on a daily basis? I do only use it in the AMs but I guess I could try it as a mask. I don't plan to get any of her other products until I'm sure this is working for me so no Vita K but I have been using my taz in the PMs as usual (no change in routine since I incorporated it). The breakouts I'm having do seem as though they result from clogged pores. Maybe I'll stop using the OF for a while and see if they subside, maybe it's just not for me considering I've been using it for 3 weeks.


I'm not sure. I was just relaying my client's experience. How much are you using on application?

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Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:26 pm      Reply with quote
A pea-sized dab on each cheek, half pea-sized dabs on chin and forehead. Then I just lightly sweep it across my face and leave it on for 3-4 min before I put my makeup on
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:30 pm      Reply with quote
sormuimui, I was using the Oxy FC daily at night only. I first applied the Vit H followed by the Oxy FC. I did have dry patches (chin area) and would apply my moisturizer after the Oxy FC. I also had some minor spots initially but that all cleared up quite quickly.

I recently switched to the Vit A Apricot because I wanted something with the A and an oil for moisturizing. It's too soon for me to comment but my dryness is less.

I am still struggling with blackheads/clogged pores but I've had this practically all my life. Oddly, I did notice improvement when I first started out with the Oxy FC but then after a while I thought some days my pores and skin texture looked better or worse than others - so confusing.

I'm hoping for better results with the Vit A Apricot and using the Oxy FC as a weekly mask.

I'll pass on the words of wisdom given to me - go slow - in other words, more product or more often is not necessarily the best way. I hope things get better for you.
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:11 am      Reply with quote
As some of you know, I too went through a major breakout phase few weeks ago. About a week ago things started calming down and now I'm back to my KH routine. I use a lot less Oxy Face than before (every 2-3 days), I use VK2 almost every night, and I added Prof Cleanser (nightly) and Mild Scrub (every 3-4 nights). I still get breakouts, but it is not as bad as before.
I must say i was expecting more from the Prof. Cleanser, but it may be too early to judge.

As for the cause of my acne, other than my chronically messed-up hormones, I am now starting to look into potassium deficiency. I haven't been feeling well lately and all my symptoms are pointing to the potassium deficiency (one of them being dry skin and acne). Now I have to go and see my dr. and have that checked.

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Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:29 am      Reply with quote
sormuimui wrote:
A pea-sized dab on each cheek, half pea-sized dabs on chin and forehead. Then I just lightly sweep it across my face and leave it on for 3-4 min before I put my makeup on


Well, that's probably the problem. Sounds like you're using too much.

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Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:07 am      Reply with quote
Some tips for acne and those with congestion and a paragraph on why you experience dryness.

How Quickly Does The Oxygen Take To Penetrate?

The more you need oxygen, the quicker it penetrates. If the skin is wounded or broken, the cream will absorb rapidly. If the damage is deeper down underneath the epidermis, it will again absorb rapidly. On a smoker, or more mature/undernourished skin, the cream will absorb rapidly.

The use of the Vita-A-Kombi Oil underneath the oxygen formula will slow down the absorption of the cream.

Maximum absorption rate is 2-3 minutes. If it takes longer than this to penetrate you are using too much cream. Only use enough cream to resemble the size of a garden pea for the face and a little more for the neck.

What Are The Best Products For Acne?

Oxygen Face Cream twice a day, but it is equally important to exfoliate once each day using Karin Herzog’s Mild Scrub.

Why does my skin dry when first using the homecare products?

By the time we get to 24 years old the activity/oxygen in the skin slows down. Collagen production diminishes as the skin loses its energy and essential raw materials. By putting these back into the skin we ensure an increase in collagen production. To build up this process the skin will need more water and vitamin A whilst the production levels rise. As a dry/mature/dehydrated skin has less intercellular fluid than a younger/oilier skin, the effect can result in drier skin temporarily. I stress however, that this is temporary (approximately up to 6-7 weeks). Once the collagen production process is built up, the fluid intake subsided and the skin balances out. To help prevent this happening always tell dry/mature/dehydrated clients to use the Facial Oil underneath the Vita-A-Kombi. If dryness occurs try the Fruit Acids Cream before the Facial Oil, and/or Vitamin H Cream on top of the Vita-A-Kombi, both will be beneficial to the skin in there own right. Alternatively in the evening you could use the Additional Night Cream to give the skin extra comfort.

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Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:10 am      Reply with quote
Hi,

I placed an order with JoElla on Monday using the PayPal. The order is still not shipped Sad . Based on your experience, how long does it take for JoElla to mail the products?

Thank you.
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Hi,

I placed an order with JoElla on Monday using the PayPal. The order is still not shipped Sad . Based on your experience, how long does it take for JoElla to mail the products?

Thank you.


I've had it vary. Usually things don't take too long. Try emailing her.

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OT but because we discussed it. The natural line JoE is now selling. Anyone ever tried it?

http://www.karinherzog-jmilan.com/Fanie%20International_bymfg_21-1-1.html


Adding to the hijack Laughing

I've never heard of this line before but I'm sure if JoElla likes it it is for valid reason. The prices look good.

I'm tempted - maybe the mask....and the tru-skin. Have to check out further.
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I've had three of those trapped pimples on my chin now for over a week and they just seem to be going from bad to worse. I've come to the conclusion that my chin hates KH, but the rest of my face loves it (really REALLY loves it). I tried the OF facial, and it didn't work for me (I think the Oxygen Face cream just generally disagrees with me). Gonna carry on with my KH routine but give my chin a rest for a bit and allow it to recover.

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Poor graceless, you have the chin with a mind of it's own. Are you going to apply the vitaka every where but your chin?

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doba wrote:
Hi,

I placed an order with JoElla on Monday using the PayPal. The order is still not shipped Sad . Based on your experience, how long does it take for JoElla to mail the products?

Thank you.


I've had it vary. Usually things don't take too long. Try emailing her.


Thank you BluesHeart.

She finaly mailed it! Smile
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doba wrote:
BluesHeart wrote:
doba wrote:
Hi,

I placed an order with JoElla on Monday using the PayPal. The order is still not shipped Sad . Based on your experience, how long does it take for JoElla to mail the products?

Thank you.


I've had it vary. Usually things don't take too long. Try emailing her.


Thank you BluesHeart.

She finaly mailed it! Smile


Yea you. I'm glad it's on it's way. What did you get?

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Poor graceless, you have the chin with a mind of it's own. Are you going to apply the vitaka every where but your chin?


Absolutely - the rest of my face is experiencing great results (if I skip even a couple of days, I am aware of the not-for-the-better difference). The chin is particularly frustrating because I had a couple of acne scars that I was hoping could benefit. For anyone reading this thread and trying to establish if KH is for them, I'd like to point out I was always prone to breakouts on my chin - it's not as a result of KH. But, it's that 'trapped' effect that has made things worse for me.

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BluesHeart wrote:
Poor graceless, you have the chin with a mind of it's own. Are you going to apply the vitaka every where but your chin?


Absolutely - the rest of my face is experiencing great results (if I skip even a couple of days, I am aware of the not-for-the-better difference). The chin is particularly frustrating because I had a couple of acne scars that I was hoping could benefit. For anyone reading this thread and trying to establish if KH is for them, I'd like to point out I was always prone to breakouts on my chin - it's not as a result of KH. But, it's that 'trapped' effect that has made things worse for me.


Have you phoned the Help Line? I think you should ask someone about this. Particularly since it's working so well for you elsewhere.

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