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Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:23 pm      Reply with quote
Before and after pictures would be nice but a half face test would be better.

Is this company like Amway?

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Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:48 am      Reply with quote
Hi everyone,

I have been following the discussion regarding Skincerity and have a few things to add. I have been in the beauty industry for over 20 years and have been writing, reviewing and test-driving product for the past 10 for various publications. Recently, I became aware of Skincerity and tested it. I have written several reviews on the product since and you can see my results (which were conducted over a two week period) to see how my it went. This product is truly unique but more importantly, it does what it says it does and while the delivery system is unorthodox, it makes for a very effective result. Especially if used in tandem with other skin care products or skin treatments ( dermalogical treatments etc) I love the fact that while Skincerity is being currently promoted as a beauty treatment, it's really a skin treatment for all types of skin ailments (bug bites, rashes, rosesea,etc) as well as the classic beauty applications of wrinkle, hydration, pigmentation and overall improved texture of skin. (You may google 101ideas if you want to read more as I am a new member and cannot post the link here.... ) to see more of my personal experience with the product. I should add that I was so moved by the effects of this product that I became a distributor and my kit is never without it.

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Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:12 am      Reply with quote
TheMakeupGirl,

Wow it does blow me away a little about acetone (used to be a cosmologist as well) I know it says it is a different type of acetone, I would be interested as to the differences.

All that said NIH does not hand out recommendations easily, and their reputation is awesome.
This has certainly piqued my interest!

DM

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Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:26 am      Reply with quote
Hi Dark Moon,


the acetone question comes up often as most people even ones in the industry like ourselves, don't necessarily know that there are various grades of it within hundreds of beauty aids. To be sure, this company did extensive R&D for this product and created a product that is antibacterial and a breathable barrier to allow skin to do what it does best in perfect conditions. So far, I have not seen any adverse effects of the acetone, more of a personal like or dislike. But overall, m,y analysis still gives this product high marks. Personally, I continue to see great results as do my clientel.

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Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:41 am      Reply with quote
TheMakeupGirl,

Thanks for your quick response, I will check out the earlier link and give it a read. I at 55 am not sure for myself really normal skin! My son who I have using OCM with Tea Tree oil added is on meds for a chronic condition, the meds cause acne as a side effect. The OCM has drastically improved his breakouts, but as the meds continue to exacerbate the acne it is a constant battle! I have to research more before I would have him try this, but it is a very interesting concept.
Thanks again for all the info!

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Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:07 am      Reply with quote
Hi DM,

I know a lot of places where Skincerity is being presented as a great Acne treatment. I would like to stress that while Skincerity does help with breakouts and does help the healing process of skin (it was devised initially with federal grant money for post skin cancer care) it is NOT a product that permeates the skin. It sits on the surface of the skin and acts an an anti bacteria shield that breathes and allows oxygen to pass through to whatever product beneath.

You can further research Skincerity by doing a search....
let me know how it goes as I am always looking for more info on the product.

best,

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Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:55 pm      Reply with quote
I understand what you are saying, but as acne is caused by bacteria....hmmm has me wondering, plus I have him using an anti-acne treatment before bed It is a DIY recipe.

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Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:12 pm      Reply with quote
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It sits on the surface of the skin and acts an an anti bacteria shield that breathes and allows oxygen to pass through to whatever product beneath.



Can you explain this more, Themakeupgirl? What are the benefits of the this product? Is this used to help your other products penetrate deeper, etc? Sorry, I am not understanding what exactly this product does!
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:23 pm      Reply with quote
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TheMakeupGirl wrote:
It sits on the surface of the skin and acts an an anti bacteria shield that breathes and allows oxygen to pass through to whatever product beneath.



Can you explain this more, Themakeupgirl? What are the benefits of the this product? Is this used to help your other products penetrate deeper, etc? Sorry, I am not understanding what exactly this product does!


The article posted on page 1 explains it a bit more, RG. Also their website goes into the science behind it and how it works. HTHs.
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:20 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks, Havana8. Sorry, I had a thick headed moment, and since discovered the "science" page on their website! Very Happy
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:09 pm      Reply with quote
Am I understanding this product correctly - you can use with OR without other products and either way should improve your skin?
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:08 pm      Reply with quote
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TheMakeupGirl,

Wow it does blow me away a little about acetone (used to be a cosmologist as well) I know it says it is a different type of acetone, I would be interested as to the differences.

All that said NIH does not hand out recommendations easily, and their reputation is awesome.
This has certainly piqued my interest!

DM


Acetone is a chemical compound (CH3COCH3), a colorless liquid with an ethereal odor used as a solvent. If the acetone used in this product is a particular "grade" or derivative (as was suggested) then it should be accurately listed on the ingredients to reflect that fact (ie benzylidene acetone, isopropylidene acetone).  

I was able to find this study about acetone and the skin:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2728065

From what I can tell, the acetone disrupts the barrier of the skin by reducing the stratum corneum. This results in an increase of TEWL (trans epidermal water loss). The polymers form a film-like barrier, and the Vitamin E is the active ingredient. BTW, if the film is "breathable" then water will escape through it as well. Skin doesn't breathe per se, but it does transpire. Nothing new or exciting (as others have noted on this thread).

One of my concerns with the product is the way it is sold via a distribution network. It seems like quite a few of the posts here are from people selling the product. I tend to discount those reviews personally.

I don't think the NIH recommends this product? Rather, some research studies on acetone were done with funding provided by the NIH. I am not sure WHO actually did the research, but often companies are end-users of research findings rather than actual producers of the studies. Perhaps this case is different than the norm.

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Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:57 pm      Reply with quote
Lacey,
My understanding on the study is skin was swabbed with liquid acetone to strip the top layer? I also didn't catch anything (quick read) about a specific grade of acetone, maybe I missed something there. I asked my son's gastroenteritis about using this and he said absolutely no!

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Lacey,
My understanding on the study is skin was swabbed with liquid acetone to strip the top layer? I also didn't catch anything (quick read) about a specific grade of acetone, maybe I missed something there. I asked my son's gastroenteritis about using this and he said absolutely no!

DM


Basically the acetone strips the top dead layers of the epidermis. This allows the active ingredient to penetrate. Many ingredients do the same ... ethanol, SD alcohol, vinegar, glycolic acid etc. I checked on SkinDeep for further information; normally acetone is used as a nail polish remover. It hasn't been assessed for safety in cosmetics by the industry panel. I did read that it's overall hazard rating is 5 (moderate). There are some concerns about neurotoxicity, developmental & reproductive toxicity as well as irritation to the skin, eyes and lungs.

I am not aware of any other company besides this one that uses this ingredient in products that are applied to facial skin. I am not sure of the validity of the statement that Clinique used this as one of the ingredients in their toner products years ago (may be an internet myth?).

I believe there is a pharmaceutical grade acetone available, but I have no idea what it is intended for. Most research would be conducted with pharmaceutical grade ingredients since they are purer and not intended for regular industrial usage.

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Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:10 am      Reply with quote
So, are we thinking this could be potentially dangerous to our skin and/or health?

Hopefully someone will come along with some more info on what grade Acetone they use and if this is safe or not (with some studies or data to back up their comments).
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:42 am      Reply with quote
Not sure if it contributes to the discussion, but I did find a factsheet prepared by Skincerity on Acetone: http://www.freeskincerity.com/acetone.pdf
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:46 pm      Reply with quote
Skippie,
Hi I read the study, what concerns me is using such a strong product so close to mouth, nose and eyes. Acetone, unless they somehow deodorized this is potent as far as fumes go? I don't see enough to convince me this would be great near those areas. I know how strong the fumes are every time I walk into a nail salon I just wonder, imaging my self choking on fumes and eyes tearing. I just don't know enough about this yet!

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Well, I've caved in and am going to try it out on one hand. I'll take pictures to see if there are any changes for the better. And at least I'll have an idea of whether the smell is overpowering.
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Well, I've caved in and am going to try it out on one hand. I'll take pictures to see if there are any changes for the better. And at least I'll have an idea of whether the smell is overpowering.


Looking forward to your review on this. I'm also nervous about using acetone on my facial skin.
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Skippie,
That sounds like the prudent choice! I think I would try it well before sleep, wouldn't want it not to completely dry as we might rub eyes while sleeping. Or on a day off to check it out!
Keep us posted, very interested in what you think of this!

TIA Very Happy
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Well, I've caved in and am going to try it out on one hand. I'll take pictures to see if there are any changes for the better. And at least I'll have an idea of whether the smell is overpowering.


You and me both, Skippie! We will have to compare notes!! Laughing
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:11 pm      Reply with quote
That's funny, Rileygirl, because I thought maybe I could try it out on the lip lines if there didn't seem to be a problem with it on my hand.
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That's funny, Rileygirl, because I thought maybe I could try it out on the lip lines if there didn't seem to be a problem with it on my hand.


Great minds think alike! Laughing
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Well I'll be waiting to hear from both your great minds!
Thanks for being our Guinea Pigs Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin

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Well I'll be waiting to hear from both your great minds!
Thanks for being our Guinea Pigs Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin

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I think I always end up being the guinea pig! Laughing
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