Water Bottle Rant
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enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 6:36 am Quote

Ok I hope you guys are not too sick of my whinning and complaining....

I am really choked about this water bottle thing. A while back they were saying not to re use store bought beverage containers (with the recycle number 1) because it was not safe. I had read that the numbers 7, 5, and I believe it was 4 were the way to go. So I went out and bought my family of 5 water bottles with the number 7 on the bottom. Wellllllllllll........now number 7 is bad and number 1 is ok??????? So instead of spending 50$+ for water bottles I could have just re used the Gatorade bottles?????????? ARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!
...or do I have this all wrong?

I don't know, but this all kind of smells like a money making marketing scheme.

enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 7:18 am Quote

it gets soooo confusing. My understanding is that the harder plastic is a better choice. I splurged on a stainless steel bottle through Gaiam when they had them on sale so it cost about the same as a good plastic one and the top section comes off for easy cleaning.
I think the bigger issue is how many bottles go into the trash, or along the side of the road, or the beaches etc.

enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 8:17 am Quote

http://www.adn.com/outdoors/story/382862.html

THe hard plastic bottles are the ones that are potentially harmful. 1, 2, 5 are ok. The ones that have no give or flexibility, like baby bottles, are the ones that have the chemical.

enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 8:24 am Quote

I know how you feel! I am constantly confused by all of this!

enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 8:42 am Quote

quoting "violetanne"

"THe hard plastic bottles are the ones that are potentially harmful. 1, 2, 5 are ok. The ones that have no give or flexibility, like baby bottles, are the ones that have the chemical."

I told you it was confusing- here I had it backwards...glad I have my stainless steel

enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 8:58 am Quote

Actually, according to my alternative physician (who also has a Ph.D. in biochemistry) only the 1 and 2 are OK.

I just wish you could find food containers made from these materials.

Stainless steel is OK as long as you do not put anything acidic in it.

HTH,
Lucy.

Mon May 05, 2008 9:06 am Quote

What Do Recycling Symbols on Plastics Mean?
http://www.thedailygreen.com/green-homes/latest/recycling-symbols-plastics-460321

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The resin ID code #7 indicates 'Other' plastic and not all are made with BPA. For example, single-use number "7" bottles used by the non-alcoholic beverage industry do not contain BPA. This catch-all category also includes newer safer biodegradable bio-based plastics made from things such as starch and sugar cane. (see below)

code #7 Other – This is a catch-all category that includes anything that does not come within the other six categories. As such, one must be careful in interpreting this category because it includes polycarbonate – a dangerous plastic – but it also includes the new, safer, biodegradable bio-based plastics made from renewable resources such as corn and potato starch, and sugar cane. Polycarbonate is used in most plastic baby bottles (!), clear plastic “sippy” cups, Nalgene brand and other “sports” water bottles, three and five gallon large water storage containers, metal food can liners, some juice and ketchup containers, compact discs, cell phones, computers. Polycarbonate leaches Bisphenol A...

Important Note: Two other types of plastic that fall under code 7 are acrylonitrile styrene (AS) or styrene acrylonitrile (SAN), and acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS). Both AS/SAN and ABS are higher quality plastics with increased strength, rigidity, toughness and temperature and chemical resistance. AS/SAN is used in mixing bowls, thermos casing, dishes, cutlery, coffee filters, toothbrushes, outer covers (printers, calculators, lamps), battery housing. The incorporation of butadiene during the manufacture of AS/SAN, produces ABS, which is an even tougher plastic. ABS is used in LEGO toys, pipes, golf club heads, automotive parts, protective head gear.
http://www.lifewithoutplastic.com/factsonplastic.htm

enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 10:39 am Quote

You can find advice on both sides of the safety issue regarding plastic bottles. The most consistent thing I've found is that the germs and bacteria left behind in a plastic bottle poses a greater threat than chemical leaching. Bottles that are meant for single use are generally harder to get really clean b/c they are more porous and not designed to be able to get into them and scrub. If you feel you can get them clean, they are probably safe for a few uses.

I've been looking for an article I received about a month ago but can't find it right now. But the gist was that the safest plastic bottle to get for reuse was the type you find for bike riding. It is not a recyclable plastic, not the clear plastic either that is so popular lately. I'll post the article if I can ever find it again.

Betsy

enjoys freebies · Mon May 05, 2008 10:48 am Quote

I just bought one of those Siggs bottles about a week ago online - haven’t received it yet
http://www.mysigg.com/index.asp

Anyone familiar with these? I bought it on a whim, not knowing anything, as usual. They’re aluminium with some kind of “top secret” inner coating, supposedly...

enjoys freebies · Wed May 07, 2008 10:26 am Quote

I received my Siggs bottle today and can’t say I’m all that happy with it. It’s bigger and heavier than I expected. I seem to recall it was promoted as being as light as or lighter than a plastic bottle .. not sure what kind of plastic bottle they had in mind for the comparison (I was foolishly thinking the small bottles you buy water in).

Well, it does look pretty though Rolling Eyes

Just weighed it on my rarely used and possibly inaccurate kitchen scales and it's 130g, including lid

enjoys freebies · Mon May 12, 2008 1:43 am Quote

It's true what they say about not reusing disposable water bottles. They really do have potential for breeding harmful bacteria. My youngest son and I both suffered a weird intestinal illness that persisted for about two weeks. It would come and go, so obviously it wasn't the flu.

I finally figured out it was one of the water bottles that we kept reusing. Even though I'd been washing it every day with hot, soapy water, there was a clear slime that had formed inside the bottle. I couldn't see it, but I could feel it when I put a finger in! Ick! I threw away the bottle and we were fine in a couple of days.

Strangely enough, we'd been reusing bottles like this for years and never had this problem before.

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