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Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:49 pm      Reply with quote
I used the LightStim for the first time tonight. It really is relaxing. I used Kassy's green tea pretreatment serum. Thank you, Kassy. It took me 40 minutes to do my face. If I can do Ageless on a regular basis, I can do this. Now I will be juggling three things at once with Vaculifter, Ageless and LightStim. Does anybody do their Vaculifter and LightStim on the same days? I guess I will just experiment.
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funkydory wrote:
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Kassy - so you shut your eyes and place it over the eyelid?

Thanks for help

MM


I do


I thought it was recommended not to place it over your eyelids?


I have to be honest and tell you I have not done the adequate reading of the instructions so you could be correct. I have not had any adverse effects so far....

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Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:15 pm      Reply with quote
For the member who PM'd about "trying to imagine the treatment area", this video should help. All LS LED's are the same size.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShIHiBj5oiM&feature=related

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Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:45 pm      Reply with quote
Hi milbalder - Yes I live in the Phoenix desert.
The sun gets very intense and the gloves are quite protective on the hands as the suns hits the steering wheel a lot out here. So the
AAlightstim along with enhanced hand cream have really helped. The sun spots are alsmost gone and the skin is thicker as the veins don't pop out as much. Anything to keep againg at bay!
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:13 am      Reply with quote
Alley wrote:
funkydory wrote:
Alley wrote:
minnym0use wrote:
Kassy - so you shut your eyes and place it over the eyelid?

Thanks for help

MM


I do


I thought it was recommended not to place it over your eyelids?


I have to be honest and tell you I have not done the adequate reading of the instructions so you could be correct. I have not had any adverse effects so far....


I wonder about using over the eye's too. Many LED's come with protective eye wear but the LS does not. I dont have one yet so I dont know what the instructions say.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:53 am      Reply with quote
GirlieGirl wrote:
Alley wrote:
funkydory wrote:
Alley wrote:
minnym0use wrote:
Kassy - so you shut your eyes and place it over the eyelid?

Thanks for help

MM


I do


I thought it was recommended not to place it over your eyelids?


I have to be honest and tell you I have not done the adequate reading of the instructions so you could be correct. I have not had any adverse effects so far....


I wonder about using over the eye's too. Many LED's come with protective eye wear but the LS does not. I dont have one yet so I dont know what the instructions say.


Just a FYI in regard to treating the eye area;

- Keeping the eyes closed when in that immediate area is sufficient. Don't treat directly over the 'eyeball', but do treat around the circumference of the eye (so brow bone, crows feet + under-eye.)

- Never purposefully look into the light for extended periods.

A few LED's come with goggles, but they are a comfort measure only. LED devices (made in the USA), designed for *home* use are "tested to International standards to ensure that it's outputs are safe for the eyes". EX: The Omnilux I'm using has the brightest, most intense red light I've ever seen in an LED, and came with goggles.. I don't use them, but avoid looking into the light. (Another FYI; brightness does not equal power, contrary to what some believe.)

So enjoy your LED, and just exercise some good common sense.. Very Happy

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Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:18 am      Reply with quote
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If you have significant looseness and sagging in the neck and jaw, an LED won't reverse that.

With continued use and total committment it will firm things somewhat in several months time, but it will never take the place of a surgical procedure. The most immediate an very apparent thing you can expect from the AALS is amazing skin changes, which get better all the time, (and I'm talking baby like skin), next the fine lines start to disappear as the collagen kicks in, lastly you will see and feel continued firming + a healthy plumpness... (This is in a nutshell, and based on my experience.)

But I do believe, that starting an LED regime in the 30's or 40's, would greatly reduce the need for surgery later on... (Just an FYI for you younguns out there.. Idea )


I fall within the 30-40 age range, so hopefully I can avoid any major surgeries later on - I don't have major looseness/sagging, but I can visibly see the onset. I am also painfully aware of the jowling that's forming around my mouth area. I just wish I could get a more angular jawline like I had when I was 22 *sigh*

So I am sold on the AALS! I'm also going to incorporate Facercise, but I was wondering if I should use a retinoid like Retin A? I believe I've read others have use that with the LS. It's suppose to help thicken the dermis layer from what I've heard, so I guess it increases collagen and elastin as well?

Thanks for everyone's help!
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:46 pm      Reply with quote
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I'm also going to incorporate Facercise, but I was wondering if I should use a retinoid like Retin A? I believe I've read others have use that with the LS. It's suppose to help thicken the dermis layer from what I've heard, so I guess it increases collagen and elastin as well?


Retin-A is pretty much the Gold Standard when it comes to anti-aging - there is really nothing else that has the scientific backing that Retin-A does. Apply it after you have done your Lightstim treatment, not before.

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I've been using the AA LightStim for three days with the green tea serum. I noticed that I now have a couple light gray pigment spots on my upper lip that were not there before. I researched LED light treatment. The articles I read said LED treatment can be used for hyper pigmentation and can reduce the production of melanin. So now I'm confused as to what caused them. Could the combination of Retin A and LED treatment be a contributing factor? Someone else asked this question on another forum and never got an answer. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:28 pm      Reply with quote
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I've been using the AA LightStim for three days with the green tea serum. I noticed that I now have a couple light gray pigment spots on my upper lip that were not there before. I researched LED light treatment. The articles I read said LED treatment can be used for hyper pigmentation and can reduce the production of melanin. So now I'm confused as to what caused them. Could the combination of Retin A and LED treatment be a contributing factor? Someone else asked this question on another forum and never got an answer. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.


I think Jasminerosey also had this issue - not sure whether she continued with the LED or not. My own feeling is that it is old pigmentation that is coming to the surface and will eventually go away. However, three days seems very quick for that to happen.

You're applying the Retin-A after the LED treatment aren't you?

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Hi Keliu, Yes, I'm applying the Retin A after the LED treatments. Thank you for your help.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:45 am      Reply with quote
hi packrat,
just to let you know, I had pigmentation appear more at the beginning of using the lightstim. then spots started to fade.I can't remember quite how long it took but it wasn't months and months.
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:08 am      Reply with quote
Question for Kassy but I am thinking everyone will benefit. My skin is super dry right now and using the pre-treat is making it worse. I was wondering if I made the AALS pre-treat without the glycolic acid and upped the green tea would that work?

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Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:32 am      Reply with quote
Pigmentation also resides deep in the skin, so it takes a while for the fading. It may get worse before better
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:26 pm      Reply with quote
I just hit the buy button...

Kept putting it off, but husband hurt back last weekend, so I am hoping to try the 'healing' side of these lights also.
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:23 am      Reply with quote
I am 9 months in to using the AALS and just wanted to mention, that altho' I feel my skin looks markedly better, I did have some hyperpigmentation surface after beginning use of the AALS and it has NOT diminished or faded whatsoever. Regardless, I would fight you tooth and nail if you tried to rip the unit out of my hands!

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I am 9 months in to using the AALS and just wanted to mention, that altho' I feel my skin looks markedly better, I did have some hyperpigmentation surface after beginning use of the AALS and it has NOT diminished or faded whatsoever. Regardless, I would fight you tooth and nail if you tried to rip the unit out of my hands!


Laughing Laughing Laughing
I am just about the same time frame as you and have found the same thing. I have 2 spots that are new but like you I wouldn't give up my AALS.

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Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:02 pm      Reply with quote
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Question for Kassy but I am thinking everyone will benefit. My skin is super dry right now and using the pre-treat is making it worse. I was wondering if I made the AALS pre-treat without the glycolic acid and upped the green tea would that work?


I never use any pre-treatment and my skin has responded well. I don't think pre-treatment is totally necessary.
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:22 pm      Reply with quote
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Question for Kassy but I am thinking everyone will benefit. My skin is super dry right now and using the pre-treat is making it worse. I was wondering if I made the AALS pre-treat without the glycolic acid and upped the green tea would that work?


Not Kassy.....but I would definitely cut out the Glycolic Acid. Using the AALS on clean skin is fine, but I would just use the green tea - it's supposed to work well with LEDs to prevent wrinkles.

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Wooo whooo...Mine arrived today. Gonna try it tonight.
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Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:58 pm      Reply with quote
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Question for Kassy but I am thinking everyone will benefit. My skin is super dry right now and using the pre-treat is making it worse. I was wondering if I made the AALS pre-treat without the glycolic acid and upped the green tea would that work?


Absolutely!

Like I always say (and do); listen to your skin, beccause it will tell you exactly what it wants/needs..

You can lay off AHA for a break for several weeks, and when/if you start to get the dull look, just add it back in, but use a little less.

Don't forget to feed your skin barrier with those oils now, to replace the antioxidants that have been shed along with the dead cells..

Favs for me;

- palm oil (this is best and loaded with A + E)
- coconut oil
- emu
- squalane
- jojoba
- rosehip

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Thank you I always need to be reminded about the "magic" of palm oil!! I just wish it was a little less orange. Shock

I am going to mix up a new pre-treat today and hold off on the AHA for awhile.

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Thank you I always need to be reminded about the "magic" of palm oil!! I just wish it was a little less orange. Shock

I am going to mix up a new pre-treat today and hold off on the AHA for awhile.


Just go back to your childhood when your Mom told you "eat it, it's good for you"..

Well your forum Mom says; "wear it, it's good for you" (It's all those carotenes causing that lovely orange appearance and the potent smell.. Laughing ) But they work magic along with all that vitamin E! A little goes a long way, so just play around with incorporating it into a nice base cream with perhaps a little Niacinamide, Glucosamine, CoQ10 (as long as the orange is there already.. Laughing ), and algae extract to give a little tightening.. Actually a C ester or THDA would be good in there too!

Think, I think I'll have at that myself!...Image

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Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:57 pm      Reply with quote
Do I hear the hint of another wonderful formula in the works????
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You can read an article and followup discussion about a product containing red palm oil here:

http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/03/05/does-red-palm-oil-in-hty-gold-really-hide-the-years/


Wikipedia has a general article about red palm oil here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_oil

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