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Sun May 18, 2008 8:33 am |
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For the moment I have found products that really seem to help keep my skin clear and hydrated. I say only for the moment maybe because products seem to work for a while and then one day they stop. I am keeping my fingers crossed. What I am using is rather simple, which makes me happy, but am I putting these on in the right order.
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Garnier Nutritioniste Nuti-Pure Detoxifying Gel Cleanser
Neutrogena Heathly Skin Intensive Night Cream-Deep Wrinkle(I know it is night cream, but it is a dream and works for the day too)
Benzeclin topical cream (RX)
Skinceuticals 30SPF sunblock
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Garnier Nutritioniste Nuti-Pure Detoxifying Gel Cleanser
Neutrogena Healthy Skin Intensive Night Cream-Deep Wrinkle
Benzeclin topical cream (RX)
Spot treat blemishes with Clean and Clear Persa Gel (10% BP) just to spot treat, NOT on entire face.
Am I layering my products correctly? My spa told me to use the moisturizer right after washing to allow the skin to get hydrated and ready to accept the other products that I put on. Of course I allow 10 minutes in between each product. |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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Sun May 18, 2008 1:17 pm |
Hello. I would use Benzeclin topical cream before the Neutrogena moisturizer. It's a rule of thumb that moisturizer should be the last product applied (before SS).
The information you got from the spa sounds weird to me. I always apply actives and serums before moisturizer. So unless there applies some special directions to the Benzeclin, I would change the order of application. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Sun May 18, 2008 1:56 pm |
I agree, your moisturizer should be last. After you cleanse your first product should be the Neutrogena Deep Wrinkle Repair. If you put your moisturizer on after you cleanse your other products won't absorb into your skin properly and you won't get very much benefit from them. |
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Sun May 18, 2008 2:46 pm |
No disrespect keli13, but you are contradicting yourself in your post. You say "I agree, your moisturizer should be last. After you cleanse your first product should be the Neutrogena Deep Wrinkle Repair"
My question about the moisturizer being last would be, how can the Benzclin soak in the skin if my skin is dry and not hydrated? The spa told me that my moisturizer preps my skin makes it hydrated so that the other products will absorb in my skin? This sounds correct, but that is why I turn to you gals. |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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Sun May 18, 2008 3:49 pm |
I've heard that it's from thinnest to thickest, just make sure not to mix any actives. |
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Sun May 18, 2008 3:56 pm |
Hi Nimue
dumb question, what makes a product "active"? Sorry, I think I know the answer, I just want to be sure Also, if I do mix actives, what is the outcome? |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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Sun May 18, 2008 5:28 pm |
bergquis wrote: |
Hi Nimue
dumb question, what makes a product "active"? Sorry, I think I know the answer, I just want to be sure Also, if I do mix actives, what is the outcome? |
I see an active as something that does the heavy lifting in the product. Like zinc oxide and titanium dioxide are the active ingredients in physical sunscreen, these are the ingredients that block the rays. There are some chemical sunscreens that cannot be mixed with physical sunscreen.
You have to be careful about mixing actives. Sometimes they make each other ineffective and at worse they'll cause harm. You don't want a chemical reaction going on on your skin... It doesn't always do something, but you have to make sure of this.
I've seen a lot of warnings that vitamin C and copper peptides cancel each other out. There has to be a 12 hr. time difference in between the products if you want to use both. Acne medicine like salicylic acid and benzoyl peroxide should not be layered on top of each other. |
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Mon May 19, 2008 4:46 am |
I got this one from another post on EDS and it too says go from thinner to thicker consistancies;
- Cleanser (may need to wait before exfoliate, if pH is a concern, over 5.5) (optional pH adjusting product could be used here, after cleansing) before acid)
- Exfoliate (usually requires a wait time, acids;20-30min)
- Toner (Liquid water like products, such as toner/treatment solutions, liquid DMAE)
- Serum (Copper Serum, treatment Serums, DMAE thicker products)
- Gel (DMAE, deffrin)
- Oils (Emu, Jojoba, Almond, etc)
- Creams
- Sunscreen
- Foundations |
_________________ Norwegian, 28, brunette, medium/pale skintone, green eyes. Not sensitive skin, bit dry in winter, trying to figure out preventative skincare. Happy with: retin-a cream, emu, LRP Anthelios ss, Careprost. Stopped with CPs. Curious about: Bioderma ss, Renova, gadgets. |
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Mon May 19, 2008 6:39 am |
Personally, I generally don't really layer products at all... I keep it simple. If I'm doing one thing I'm not doing anything else. Of course this means that I really look for multi-tasking products
The balm and body cream from 100% pure are the exceptions, since the formulations are similar enough, but the balm is just thicker and more moisturizing. Ok, another exception is if I'm using an oil and then I maybe I'll put a cream over it.
Besides looking for multitasking products, another result is that I mix stuff . I currently mix my own moisturizer/sunscreen/foundation and my own eye cream/sunscreen/concealer. If it doesn't exist, mix it, I say! |
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Mon May 19, 2008 10:22 am |
Cream should be applyed on last..Since the texture of it is thickest |
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Mon May 19, 2008 11:23 am |
bergquis wrote: |
Help
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Garnier Nutritioniste Nuti-Pure Detoxifying Gel Cleanser
Neutrogena Heathly Skin Intensive Night Cream-Deep Wrinkle(I know it is night cream, but it is a dream and works for the day too)
Benzeclin topical cream (RX)
Skinceuticals 30SPF sunblock
PM
Garnier Nutritioniste Nuti-Pure Detoxifying Gel Cleanser
Neutrogena Healthy Skin Intensive Night Cream-Deep Wrinkle
Benzeclin topical cream (RX)
Spot treat blemishes with Clean and Clear Persa Gel (10% BP) just to spot treat, NOT on entire face.
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What is the Benzeclin topical cream for? How thick is the cream? I have the Neutrogena Intensive Night Cream, too, which I bought per your recommendation. It's pretty thick, but I don't use too many products, just cleanse and apply the Night Cream and eye cream. I did hear about thinnest to thickest recommendation before as well. So if the Benzeclin is thicker than the Neutrogena, it should go after. Make sense? |
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Mon May 19, 2008 11:58 am |
hi ruk1
Benzeclin is a topical (rx) cream http://www.benzaclin.com/
It really helps me from developing large acne. It is very thick, and the Neutrogena Night cream I use, is MUCH thinner. So if I stick to the rule of thin to thicker, then the Benzeclin would be last. |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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Tue May 20, 2008 6:05 am |
I read from Ziggy's post on the order of how to apply the products but what about vitamin c? Should that be used before or after an exfoliater such as alpha hydrox? Could I do
Exfoliate (wait 30 min.)
Vitamin C (do i wait here also?)
moisturizer
sunscreen |
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Tue May 20, 2008 8:30 am |
I think you are using too many products. A couple would be enough. you don't want to overwhelm your skin. |
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Tue May 20, 2008 10:53 am |
bodiukein wrote: |
I read from Ziggy's post on the order of how to apply the products but what about vitamin c? Should that be used before or after an exfoliater such as alpha hydrox? Could I do
Exfoliate (wait 30 min.)
Vitamin C (do i wait here also?)
moisturizer
sunscreen |
I hope you don't exfoliate everyday or you would thin out your skin too much. Did you mean cleanse? There's a wait time of 15-20 mins after Vit C serum.
I don't think you use too many products! Vit C is definitely going after AHA. Your application order looks fine to me. |
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Tue May 20, 2008 10:55 am |
Berquis, I forgot to mention this. Since the Neutrogena Intensive Night Cream contains Retinol which makes your skin more sensitive to light, are you sure it's a good idea to use it in the day time, too? I know the cream is lovely, but I'm afraid to use it in the morning because of the Retinol factor. |
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Tue May 20, 2008 10:57 am |
Hi RUK1
I know I probably should not use it during the day, but I am. I don't spend a lot of time in the sun (I know I know), but I refuse to use a sunscreen other than my Mineral Makeup. My face would be one big zit if I did. Maybe I should find the review on the Neutrogena day cream and use that. I am afraid it would not be as good and cause breakouts, but I know you are right. |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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Tue May 20, 2008 11:00 am |
bergquis wrote: |
Hi RUK1
I know I probably should not use it during the day, but I am. I don't spend a lot of time in the sun (I know I know), but I refuse to use a sunscreen other than my Mineral Makeup. My face would be one big zit if I did. Maybe I should find the review on the Neutrogena day cream and use that. I am afraid it would not be as good and cause breakouts, but I know you are right. |
You know because the night cream is so nice, I am also tempted to try the day cream which got spf 20 in it, and the eye cream. One good thing about buying from CVS is that you can return it if it doesn't suit your needs. |
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Tue May 20, 2008 11:10 am |
Hi again Ruki
I am with you. There are so many of these "lotions" and "creams" by Neutrogena. Which one are you going to try???
Neutrogena Visibly Firm Face Lotion Spf 20 Moisturizers (only 69% rating on MUA)
Neutrogena Oil Free Moisture - SPF 15 Moisturizers (only 48% rating on MUA)
Neutrogena Healthy Skin Visibly Even Daily SPF 15 Moisturizer Moisturizers (only 68% on MUA)
See, so nothing has GREAT reviews like the night cream |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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Tue May 20, 2008 11:14 am |
bergquis wrote: |
Hi again Ruki
I am with you. There are so many of these "lotions" and "creams" by Neutrogena. Which one are you going to try???
Neutrogena Visibly Firm Face Lotion Spf 20 Moisturizers (only 69% rating on MUA)
Neutrogena Oil Free Moisture - SPF 15 Moisturizers (only 48% rating on MUA)
Neutrogena Healthy Skin Visibly Even Daily SPF 15 Moisturizer Moisturizers (only 68% on MUA)
See, so nothing has GREAT reviews like the night cream |
The one with SPF 20 sounds good to me. If it's still on sale, I might pick it up! |
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Tue May 20, 2008 3:15 pm |
Yes you can use the neutrogena cream during the day even though it contains Retin A as long as you use a good sunscreen with zinc oxide. I highly recommend the Obagi healthy skin sunscreen. |
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Tue May 20, 2008 3:18 pm |
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Yes you can use the neutrogena cream during the day even though it contains Retin A as long as you use a good sunscreen with zinc oxide. I highly recommend the Obagi healthy skin sunscreen. |
The Neutragena contains Retinol and has a sunscreen of 20 SPF. It is made for the day since it contains sunscreens and other UVA/UVB items. One should not need any other sunscreen. |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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Tue May 20, 2008 5:52 pm |
I sort of agreed with September girl, however, I suggest you to use sunscreen last during the day as the sun can really damage your skin. Obagi or MD forte both carry good sunscreens. |
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Tue May 20, 2008 9:09 pm |
So I want to incorporate Tazorac in my nightly routine. I just want to use it around the edges of my face (I seem to break out there a lot) I rinse my hair for 10 minutes and I use NO hair products on any kind, so it is not my products breaking me out around the hairline (not sure why this is??) but can I spot treat with Tazorac?? If so, what results will I see? |
_________________ 39 Year "young" female, Using PTR glycolic cleanser and Finacea with success! Passion for living and love Sunny Days/Beaches and The Ocean |
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