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Sat May 23, 2009 1:48 pm |
Ladies, vitamin E is oily and yellow in color, so I am not trying to be judgemental, but perhaps if you are buying it from a company and the color is yellowish, it's because of the vitamin E? Perhaps the cost is justified by other ingredients? I know most of the times it's not - and it's just marketing and brand, but would love to see their ingredient list for $125....
BTW thanks for such a simple Vit C Serum recipe |
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Mon May 25, 2009 7:29 am |
Hey Kassy,
Just wanted to let you know that I had just placed orders to Skin Actives & Personal Formulator for all those ingredients listed by you.
Can't wait... |
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Mon May 25, 2009 4:24 pm |
zverenok wrote: |
Ladies, vitamin E is oily and yellow in color, so I am not trying to be judgemental, but perhaps if you are buying it from a company and the color is yellowish, it's because of the vitamin E? Perhaps the cost is justified by other ingredients? I know most of the times it's not - and it's just marketing and brand, but would love to see their ingredient list for $125... |
Oh you'll never see that on the SkinCeuticals website.. its a big secret for some reason! Dermstore.com is excellent about posting the ingredients of everything they sell, but now I see they no longer carry SkinCeuticals. |
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Mon May 25, 2009 5:12 pm |
zverenok wrote: |
but would love to see their ingredient list for $125....
BTW thanks for such a simple Vit C Serum recipe |
Here are the ingredients for some of the most popular brands talked about here; (I also include the Nia 24, that gets some raves.)
Ingredients for Skinceuticals C E Ferulic
Water, Ethoxydiglycol, L-Ascorbic Acid (Topical Vitamin C), Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Laureth-23, Alpha Tocopherol, Phenoxyethanol, Triethanolamine, Ferulic Acid, Panthenol, Sodium Hyaluronate.
Ingredients for Serum 15 AOX+ by Skinceuticals
Water, L-Ascorbic acid, ethoxydiglycol, propylene glycol, glycerin, zinc sulfate, phenoxyethanol, ferulic acid, panthenol, sodium hyaluronate, sodium hydroxide.
Ingredients for C+AHA by Skinceuticals
Water, l-ascorbic acid, glycolic acid, lactic acid, zinc sulfate, phenoxyethanol, bioflavonoids, sodium hyaluronate.
IS Clinical C-15 Serum Advance+ IngredientsWater/ Aqua/ Eau, Sodium Hyaluronate, Ascorbic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Tripeptide-1, Zinc Sulfate, Bioflavonoids, Phenoxyethanol.
IS Clinical C & E Serum Advance+ IngredientsWater/ Aqua/ Eau, Propylene Glycol, Ascorbic Acid, Alcohol Denat., Hyaluronic Acid, Tripeptide-1, Laureth-4, Zinc Sulfate, Tocopherol, Bioflavonoids, Phenoxyethanol
Ingredients of IS Clinical Super Serum
Hyaluronic Acid, Water/Aqua/Eau, L-Ascorbic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Zinc Sulfate, Pentapeptide-1, Arbutin, Polyporus Umbellatus (Mushroom) Extract, Pantothenic Acid, Asiaticoside, Asiatic Acid, Madecassic Acid, Phenoxyethanol.
Nia24 Intensive Recovery Complex Ingredients
Water, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Myristyl Nicotinate (Pro-Niacin™), Glycerin, Pentaerythrityl Tetracaprylate/Tetracaprate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), C12-20 Acid PEG-8 Ester, Butylene Glycol, Glyceryl Stearate, Squalane, Ethylene/Acrylic Acid Copolymer, Dimethicone, Tribehenin, Acrylamide/Sodium Acryloyldimethyltaurate Copolymer, Mangifera Indica (Mango) Seed Butter, Ceramide 2, PEG-10 Rapeseed Sterol, Palmitoyl Oligopeptide, Saccharide Isomerate, Isohexadecane, Sodium Hyaluronate, Hexyldecanol, Ceramide 3, Hydrolyzed Wheat Gluten, Ceratonia Siliqua (Locust Bean) Gum, Hordeum Distichon (Barley) Extract, Lycopersicum (Tomato) Extract, Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) Root Extract, Potassium Cetyl Phosphate, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Extract, Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Extract, Cola Nitida Seed Extract, Paullinia Cupana Seed Extract, Ilex Paraguariensis Leaf Extract, Bisabolol, Phospholipids, Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Polysorbate 80, Myristica Fragrans (Nutmeg) Kernel Extract, Xanthan Gum, BHT, Chlorphenesin, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben.
When I look at some of this, all I can think about is that 60 to 65% of *everything* that goes on our skin gets absorbed.. So you have to ask yourself this, does the good stuff outweigh the bad stuff? My personal rule is simple, if I can't pronounce it, I don't use it ...
ETA: If you want any other Skinceutical product ingredients, let me know. |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Mon May 25, 2009 5:27 pm |
Kassy_A,
you are amazing
I have read almost all of your information regarding advice on VIT C.. a couple of questions
Can "U" give me some help in knowing the quantity to order, say to last 3 months !!
Also do you use any other serums (for aging) like
Matrixyl,DMAE,or Alpha Lipoic Acid ?
Yiks that is more than 1? but maybe usefull for other's.
DLI |
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Mon May 25, 2009 7:01 pm |
DLI wrote: |
Kassy_A,
you are amazing
I have read almost all of your information regarding advice on VIT C.. a couple of questions
Can "U" give me some help in knowing the quantity to order, say to last 3 months !!
Also do you use any other serums (for aging) like
Matrixyl,DMAE,or Alpha Lipoic Acid ?
Yiks that is more than 1? but maybe usefull for other's.
DLI |
I have made serums (for myself and others to try), with all of those actives. I would highly recommend you add those (at the recommended concentrations) to Juice Beauty Antioxidant Serum; (2oz @ $45.00) You can decant an ounce at a time, add the additional actives and have a really lovely, effective serum, with the bare minumum of preservatives.. The plus is 95% organic + no parabens, or synthetics.. (I really love JB, and find it the perfect thing for semi-DIY. (Check the ingredients at this link also!)
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/juice-beauty-antioxidant-p_4770.htm
If you haven't seen this thread, it might be helpful, because there are recipe's that include those actives and others;
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=30621
Making C serum is the cheapest DIY formulation you can imagine.. Forget the 3 months, the smallest sizes, of the ingredients needed will last about a year.
I'd recommend you check out LC, which has the best L-Ascorbic Acid (fine powder) I've come across;
http://www.lotioncrafter.com/ascorbic-acid-ultrafine.html
You will note different sizes, with the smallest being 1oz @ $3.95 ... (You need 1 tsp for a 15% concentration, so it will be enough for 5 to 6 1oz serums.
Just buy the smallest sizes available for vitamin E, Ferulic Acid and SKB ... (You'll still have some left a year from now, if you only make it for yourself.)
HTH! |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Mon May 25, 2009 8:31 pm |
Thanks Kassy,
I looked up the info you sent, I am having trouble finding the Remergent DNA cream and is there a certain MSM you suggest?
Bye the way what is THDA product??
The suggestion you sent me re Juice Beauty that ius for a separate cream right ?
Hopefully I will be on my way
Here's to you
DLI |
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Mon May 25, 2009 8:55 pm |
DLI wrote: |
Thanks Kassy,
I looked up the info you sent, I am having trouble finding the Remergent DNA cream and is there a certain MSM you suggest?
Bye the way what is THDA product??
The suggestion you sent me re Juice Beauty that ius for a separate cream right ?
Hopefully I will be on my way
Here's to you
DLI |
I'm more than happy to help you, but I don't want to take this 'C serum' thread off topic, so I'll PM you.. You can also feel free to ask away anything related to DIY here;
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=30621 |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue May 26, 2009 1:41 pm |
Summer 2004 I am searching to buy the Lascoic acid and the MSM plus some bottles can you help, I have looked at both places and I guess I don't know what I am doing |
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Tue May 26, 2009 1:42 pm |
sorry Summer2004 I meant the L-Ascrobic Acid and MSM yiks I cannot even spell !! |
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Tue May 26, 2009 2:08 pm |
Sorry to go off topic...
"Nature's Way Pure Opti MSM 1000mg" is the one I use. It has no fillers or exipients, and dissolves immediately and completely in 3 seconds when put in H2O.
You can get it anywhere the Nature's Way brand is carried. I get mine at http://www.drugstore.com
I PM'd you about the L-Ascorbic Acid also, and will reiterate that you should get it at http://www.lotioncrafter.com (Me's thinking you will need to use this fine powdered variety for your initiation into DIY C Serum)... |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue May 26, 2009 2:15 pm |
Thanks Kassy_A
You must have read my mind, I was replying when you sent yours. if you have anything to add that would help me,I would SO appreciate it.
How many supliers do you order from to even make 1 product !! |
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Tue May 26, 2009 2:18 pm |
Kassy_A,
here I am again, is there ine place I can get the L-Ascorbic acid and the MSM? what do you think of
Gardenofwisdom? when I see different tyes of LA etc I get confused |
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Tue May 26, 2009 2:26 pm |
DLI wrote: |
Kassy_A,
here I am again, is there ine place I can get the L-Ascorbic acid and the MSM? what do you think of
Gardenofwisdom? when I see different tyes of LA etc I get confused |
If you go to my last post (3 above this one) you will see that I answered your questions and gave you links..
Please either PM me, or ask any further questions in the Dr. Kassy thread, because this thread is strictly for 'C Serum', and it isn't fair to others that we take it off topic.
I'm happy to help you, but please remember that others are getting notification emails, every time you repeat these same questions in this thread.. |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue May 26, 2009 2:27 pm |
OMG me again,
do you buy the MSM caps or powder? we do not have Natures Way in Canada ( that I can find) |
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Tue May 26, 2009 4:37 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
zverenok wrote: |
but would love to see their ingredient list for $125....
BTW thanks for such a simple Vit C Serum recipe |
Here are the ingredients for some of the most popular brands talked about here; (I also include the Nia 24, that gets some raves.)
Ingredients for Skinceuticals C E Ferulic
Water, Ethoxydiglycol, L-Ascorbic Acid (Topical Vitamin C), Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Laureth-23, Alpha Tocopherol, Phenoxyethanol, Triethanolamine, Ferulic Acid, Panthenol, Sodium Hyaluronate.
Ingredients for Serum 15 AOX+ by Skinceuticals
Water, L-Ascorbic acid, ethoxydiglycol, propylene glycol, glycerin, zinc sulfate, phenoxyethanol, ferulic acid, panthenol, sodium hyaluronate, sodium hydroxide.
Ingredients for C+AHA by Skinceuticals
Water, l-ascorbic acid, glycolic acid, lactic acid, zinc sulfate, phenoxyethanol, bioflavonoids, sodium hyaluronate.
IS Clinical C-15 Serum Advance+ IngredientsWater/ Aqua/ Eau, Sodium Hyaluronate, Ascorbic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Tripeptide-1, Zinc Sulfate, Bioflavonoids, Phenoxyethanol.
IS Clinical C & E Serum Advance+ IngredientsWater/ Aqua/ Eau, Propylene Glycol, Ascorbic Acid, Alcohol Denat., Hyaluronic Acid, Tripeptide-1, Laureth-4, Zinc Sulfate, Tocopherol, Bioflavonoids, Phenoxyethanol
Ingredients of IS Clinical Super Serum
Hyaluronic Acid, Water/Aqua/Eau, L-Ascorbic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Zinc Sulfate, Pentapeptide-1, Arbutin, Polyporus Umbellatus (Mushroom) Extract, Pantothenic Acid, Asiaticoside, Asiatic Acid, Madecassic Acid, Phenoxyethanol.
Nia24 Intensive Recovery Complex Ingredients
Water, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Myristyl Nicotinate (Pro-Niacin™), Glycerin, Pentaerythrityl Tetracaprylate/Tetracaprate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), C12-20 Acid PEG-8 Ester, Butylene Glycol, Glyceryl Stearate, Squalane, Ethylene/Acrylic Acid Copolymer, Dimethicone, Tribehenin, Acrylamide/Sodium Acryloyldimethyltaurate Copolymer, Mangifera Indica (Mango) Seed Butter, Ceramide 2, PEG-10 Rapeseed Sterol, Palmitoyl Oligopeptide, Saccharide Isomerate, Isohexadecane, Sodium Hyaluronate, Hexyldecanol, Ceramide 3, Hydrolyzed Wheat Gluten, Ceratonia Siliqua (Locust Bean) Gum, Hordeum Distichon (Barley) Extract, Lycopersicum (Tomato) Extract, Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) Root Extract, Potassium Cetyl Phosphate, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Extract, Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Extract, Cola Nitida Seed Extract, Paullinia Cupana Seed Extract, Ilex Paraguariensis Leaf Extract, Bisabolol, Phospholipids, Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Polysorbate 80, Myristica Fragrans (Nutmeg) Kernel Extract, Xanthan Gum, BHT, Chlorphenesin, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben.
When I look at some of this, all I can think about is that 60 to 65% of *everything* that goes on our skin gets absorbed.. So you have to ask yourself this, does the good stuff outweigh the bad stuff? My personal rule is simple, if I can't pronounce it, I don't use it ...
ETA: If you want any other Skinceutical product ingredients, let me know. |
That's brill! Where did you glean that from??? |
_________________ ✪ My go-to products: MyFawnie.BigCartel.com ✪ |
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Tue May 26, 2009 6:36 pm |
So I've been following this thread for months, but I finally made my first concoction of Vit 15% C, E + Ferulic Acid Serum yesterday. And I am thrilled!! I became interested after getting a trial of Vivier's CE Kinerol in January. It was the first serum/cream/potion I'd tried that made such a significant difference in evening out my skin tone, fading red marks, and providing that special "glow." But $135 an ounce is too much for my budget--even with those results! Putting my new serum on last night, I was dubious about whether it could produce such results, especially since I was a little worried that I might have screwed it up. But this morning: marvelous already! The red spots are retreating, my skin looks refreshed. DH used it and loved it too. Thank you Dr. Kassy!!
I thought I might share a few things I found helpful yesterday (since I think I reread the entire thread!) First, here's the recipe that I followed (to the letter):
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[It was posted on 5.11 as Kassy's favotite C Serum (latest + greatest!)]
15% C, E + Ferulic Acid Serum, 1oz
1 tsp L-Ascorbic Acid
1/4 tsp Ferulic Acid
1/3 cc/ml (.3) of Vitamin E Oil
1/3 cc/ml (.3) of Hyaluronic Acid
1 tsp SKB
1 tsp vodka
3 1/2 tsp H2O
To prepare use 2 shot glasses. In glass #1 put the H2O, Vodka, LAA + Ferulic Acid.. Stir frequently. It can take up to 30 minutes to *fully* dissolve. Mix the remaining ingredients in glass #2. When the contents of glass #1 have fully dissolved, combine both, stir well and put in your 1oz bottle.. Give it a good shake, and store in fridge or in a cool, dark place.. Shake a bit before use.
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I didn't have much trouble with the LAA dissolving because of the vodka (I got my LAA from Garden of Wisdom). But I didn't shake the FA powder in (I just dumped it), so it ended up taking a long time dissolving as there were "clumps" of it that I needed to break up. I think my teaspoon-full was too packed with the FA: ideally I would find a way to sift it in next time... or at least just shake it in a bit at a time. I'd let the whole thing sit for an hour, stirring frequently, but it was still a hazy, milky white. Then I came across someone on this thread mentioning that the dissolved LAA might look a little powdery/cloudy in the water but not be crystals anymore. That made me decide it was dissolved sufficiently, and I'm assuming that's correct based on my skin this morning. Let me know if I'm wrong though, Kassy!
My Vit E oil (also GOW) emulsified just fine with the SKB (from Skin Actives) and HA (Essential Wholesale), though next time I would wait with mixing it up till I was ready to add it to the first shot glass (since it ended up sitting around for an hour too). In any case, I know it's not perfect because it was my first try, but I love the results, I learned things for next time, and I saved $100!! Thank you DIY ladies of EDS! |
_________________ early 30s; combo skin: medium-fair pale with freckles, controlled breakouts. Love: argan and tamanu oil, Devita SS, NCN rhassoul cleansing bar, pumpkin peel, DIY Vit C serum. Getting into more DIY... Fan of natural/organic products. |
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Tue May 26, 2009 6:59 pm |
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15% C, E + Ferulic Acid Serum, 1oz
1 tsp L-Ascorbic Acid
1/4 tsp Ferulic Acid
1/3 cc/ml (.3) of Vitamin E Oil
1/3 cc/ml (.3) of Hyaluronic Acid
1 tsp SKB
1 tsp vodka
3 1/2 tsp H2O |
For those of us living in Canada, can someone recommend where we can get all of the above - I know where to get the vodka (doh ) and the vit E oil, oh well and H2O,
but where to get the rest? In Canada? |
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Wed May 27, 2009 7:15 am |
zverenok Essential Wholesale will ship to Canada, I am not sure of the shipping prices however
http://www.essentialwholesale.com
You can get the Ascorbic Acid (I use their powder)
Hyaluronic Acid
Vitamin E (but this seems different than what I am used to)
The nice thing about Essential Wholesale is you can order sample sizes if you are not sure of something.
The Personal Formulator ships Internationally as well. This is the vitamin E that I use.
http://www.thepersonalformulator.com/wvss/index.php
Both Skinactives and Garden of Wisdom ship internationally and you will be able to find the rest of the ingredients you need from there.
http://www.skinactives.com/
http://www.gardenofwisdom.shoppingcartsplus.com/home.html
Bulk Actives.com comes out of China (at least they use Chinese postage) so they definitely ship to Canada
http://www.bulkactives.com/
HTH |
_________________ mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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Wed May 27, 2009 7:46 am |
Thank you Alley, I saved all this info - very usefull. I am probably not going to be ordering anything from China - with all the scare of poisoning products - but am good with the rest!
Thanks! |
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Wed May 27, 2009 8:06 am |
LOL I thought the same thing when my first package arrived from Bulkactives but I have successfully ordered from them 2x's now but who knows maybe I am slowly poisoning myself.
There is this thread you might want to look at for some other potential suppliers
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=32529 |
_________________ mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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Wed May 27, 2009 8:07 am |
Hey Alley,
I was just looking at the Hyaluronic Acid on essential wholesale.
and here is what they have:
Full Disclosure INCI: Aqua (Water), Sodium Hyauronate (Hyaluronic Acid), Potassium Sorbate, Citric Acid.
First question, what's the need of Potassium sorbate in it.
Second question - it already shows to have Citrix acide, so should absorbic acid amount be reduced in your formulation to account for the extra?
WOW - just saw your post on suppliers links - THANKS!!!!
Sorry for all the questions - what is SKB? |
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Wed May 27, 2009 8:25 am |
zverenok did you see the "Closer Look" paragraph at the bottom of the product page? Here is what they say:
A Closer Look:
It is common practice in the cosmetics industry to give the INCI name of Hyaluronic Acid for the 1% solution and disclose nothing else about the solution itself. According to the CTFA a supplier or manufacturer does not have to disclose any further information. We at Essential Wholesale believe that the right thing to do is to disclose all the information in order to allow our customers to make an educated decision. It is not possible for Hyaluronic Acid to be made into a solution and sold on the market that contains only water and Hyaluronic Acid. You will rarely see the preservatives or even the liquid creating the solution disclosed. That is because technically the INCI for Hyaluronic Acid 1% solution is Sodium Hyaluronate . But ethically Essential Wholesale does not feel comfortable doing business on this fine line. You can go find another supplier that will not disclose the preservatives, but no matter what, the preservatives are in there. There are a variety of preservative systems and solutions that are made to create any ingredient “in solution”. An ingredient “in solution” can mean that that ingredient is dissolved or dispersed in water, alcohol, propylene glycol, butylene glycol, glycerin, polysorbate and so forth. And the preservative system can be any of hundreds of preservative systems on the market.
The majority of the Hyaluronic Acid on the market today contains Phenonip and Water. A full disclosure of that ingredient list would be: Aqua (Water), Sodium Hyaluronate (Hyaluronic Acid), Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben. This undisclosed information would cause a major problem for a company that believes they are paraben free. We ran several tests in order to find the mildest, safest method to preserve our Hyaluronic Acid Solution. We chose to preserve our Hyaluronic Acid Solution with Potassium Sorbate and Citric Acid (to adjust the pH) which created a stable, effective and paraben free product. There are many different preservatives that could be used. We could have put out our Hyaluronic Acid 1% Solution on the market without the full disclosure of the ingredients which is standard practice, but we feel strongly about allowing consumers to make educated decisions with ingredients that are fully disclosed.
When you ask your supplier about Essential Wholesales “Closer Look”, do not be surprised if they react violently and attack Essential Wholesale. Disclosing this information is not required and/or standard practice. Your supplier may honestly believe that they are being sold and reselling an unpreserved product, because they are resellers. We are manufactures and put the product into solution ourselves, therefore we are fully and completely aware of what it requires to create a stable, safe and effective product. For many years we have manufactured our own extracts and solutions because we wanted to avoid the unlisted ingredients that are common in such products. We have made a corporate decision to no longer assume that a customer knows exactly what a solution or extract entails. You will find “A Closer Look” popping up all over our site disclosing many of the cosmetic industries secrets. We are not disclosing these in order to make us look better, because we could sweep them under the carpet like some others. We are disclosing them to give the consumer 100% control in their decision making process.
I personally have not adjusted the amount of L-AA in my recipe to accommodate the citric acid as I don't think the amount is substantial. Have a look around I can't remember where Kassy buys her HA if you are not comfortable with the Essential Wholesale HA just look for the liquid not the powder. |
_________________ mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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Wed May 27, 2009 9:33 am |
OK, so if I am understanding this correctly, it's a preservative...
Why can't it be in powder form - since then it would not need any preservative, and water can be added as I go?
I don't have a problem with essential wholesale - I actually agree that it's very ethical and speaks volumes of them to truthfully disclose all this information. |
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Wed May 27, 2009 9:45 am |
The reason I suggested liquid is the majority of the DIY recipes call for the liquid form and I am just not smart enough to figure out the conversions.
A big reason I buy from Essential Wholesale is that they make sure you make an informed decision on products, knowing exactly what it is you are getting and the prices are great too. |
_________________ mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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