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Starting Obagi while already using Renova?
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amylola
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:28 pm      Reply with quote
My esthetician today recommended that I should maybe do either IPL (which she would only charge me $100 for my whole face for one treatment), or I could try Obagi. I am scared to try Obaji, because of all that I've read and all that you have to go through before the new beautiful skin shows up. She thought though that since I have been using Renova nightly now for over 8 months, that I wouldn't have as many of those nasty side effects that most people go through.
Has anyone started Obagi while already being accustomed to retin-A or renova??
How did it work out for you?
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Obagi is worth the pain - I was on maintenance but had some hormonal issues went today back to my Derm and Iam starting another round of Obagi NuDerm you get great results if you stick with it

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I've been using Obagi NuDerm with the tretinoin (retin a) creme for about a week and do not have the negative reactions that others have written about. My medical aesthetician recommended that I skip #3 (clear) and just use #5 blender, along with the tretinoin cream (.025%) and #1,2,4 and 6. My sister has been on the complete Nu-Derm system, including #3 (clear) for about 4 weeks, and she hasn't experienced the strong reactions that some others have posted. The most discomfort either one of us have felt has been similar to a mild sunburn. My skin feels and looks great, even just after one week. I just have mild hyperpigmentation and some fine lines, larger pores, but I also wanted to use this system to keep my skin young looking for years to come. If you are already used to using Retin A, I think you should give the NuDerm system a chance. I'm using the normal-oily system.
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Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:12 am      Reply with quote
I am definitely thinking about it, however I wouldn't want to use their cleanser, as I love OCM and it works really well for me.
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Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:39 am      Reply with quote
like you, i thought that with my previous use of differin gel .03%, i would not experience the side effects of obagi nu derm to the extent that many other users have. but i was wrong. the first month was good. i experienced slight peeling and no redness. the second month i started to get a little red. i just completed my third month and my skin looks terrible. i have red patches all over my face. the redness is horrible. i did not expect this in the third month.
maybe the products are not for me. they may work for u. but i just wanted to share my experience.
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Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:28 pm      Reply with quote
That is what I am scared of, I have heard so many different things, from amazing results to disasterous. I don't know if I should mess with a good thing. I don't have THAT bad skin, actually it has been really good lately. Not many breakouts at all, and no more dryness/flakyness from the renova. I think I'll do the IPL session and see how that goes, and maybe ask my esthetician which Obagi products she would recommend for me.
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I was on retin a for a while before I started the nu derm. I did not have the excessive flaking that a lot of the people do, mostly around my mouth area.
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rileygirl, were you pleased with the results?
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Most definitely please with my results. Honestly, so far, the nu derm system has been the only thing that has given me results!
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How well you tolerate Renova is a good indicator of how your skin will react to the Obagi system. It's usually the combination of a retinoid and hydroquinone at prescription strength that leads to the redness and flaking.

By being on Renova for many months your skin is well acclimated to the activity of a retinoid. The odds are you'll do fine with the Obagi system, but there are no sure things.

The results of the system are impressive. If you decide to try it and run into redness and flaking, there are some new products out that can be used with the Obagi system to reduce the issues.
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Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:40 am      Reply with quote
FYIguy wrote:
How well you tolerate Renova is a good indicator of how your skin will react to the Obagi system. It's usually the combination of a retinoid and hydroquinone at prescription strength that leads to the redness and flaking.

By being on Renova for many months your skin is well acclimated to the activity of a retinoid. The odds are you'll do fine with the Obagi system, but there are no sure things.


Not necessarily, FYIguy. If she were to switch to Retin A instead of the Renova, she probably will have some flaking due to no moisturizer in the Retin A.
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Am I able to use the renova instead of retin-A with the obagi system? I have tried retinA in the past, and it made me way to dry. I live in colorado where the climate takes its toll anyway, and the only way I could handle using trenitoin was to use Renova because it is so emollient. I hope I would be able to use it instead of retinA with the system.
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amylola, I would check with your esthetician about using Renova while on Obagi. Is he/she the one you would be following while you are on Obagi?

I am not sure if that would be a problem or not, due to the moisturizer in the Renova. I'll ask my nurse for you and see what she says.
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Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:49 am      Reply with quote
Thanks! I am going to think about it, and see my esthetician in about 4 weeks, and if I decide then I would start then.
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:46 am      Reply with quote
Amylola, my nurse says NO to Renova. Must be Retin A. (If you want to try it, you could always use the lowest percent RA and see how you do. But, you will be dry at first, that is the nature of Nu Derm).
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I am on week 11 of Obagi Nuderm. I've been using generic Renova from Mexico with excellent results. I've used both Retin-A and Renova in the past and the difference to me is very minimal. Renova still dries me out almost as much as Retin-A does. My skin was extremely dry the first 2 months. The dryness has gotten a bit better now in my third month on Obagi. I am extremely pleased with my results from Obagi. Obagi Nuderm has given me better results than any other skin care I have ever used including Retin-A and 4% Hydroquinone used alone.
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So you experienced more dryness after you started the obagi? Did you go through a dryness phase when you used the Renova alone, b/c I did for the first few months, and now my skin is used to it and I don't get dry even with .5 renova.
I am unsure whether or not to do it. darn, i really want to see the results though.
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I think if you use Renova or Avage, etc, something other than Retin A is dependent upon how "true" you want to be to the Obagi line and the theory behind it.

Here is a direct quote from Dr. Obagi about this subject. (I asked ZOskinhealth to check with Dr. Obagi about this subject for me)

"All of these products are in the retinoid family. The difference lies in
the vehicle that delivers the retinoic acid to the skin / cells. Renova is
in an emolient base. I presume Avage is similar, but have not heard much
about it. Moisturizing or providing emollient products to the skin defeat the purpose of exfoliation, as they reduce irritation, etc. Individuals who utilize these products are more concerned with the comfort aspect of treatment and minimizing reaction and irritation. There are other ways to combat adverse effects and still utilize Retin A. Retin A is the only product with the appropriate vehicle to deliver the product into the skin."
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:46 pm      Reply with quote
does that go for retin a micro as well? or is that more like renova?

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Is retin a micro a gel? If it is a gel, then it would be a no go. The system was meant to be used with the cream.
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:55 am      Reply with quote
mine is a gel, so thanks for clearing that up!

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