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Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:23 pm  |
| In your experience do you think it's necessary to use a separate eyecream? Paula B always said that eyecreams are just ways for cosmetic companies to make more money and that the regular facial moisturizer is good enough to use used around the eyes. I always listened to this and never used any eyecreams. But recently I'm really noticing a lot of fine lines underneath my eyes and start to wonder maybe my regualr face cream really is just not enough. thanks for any help. |
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Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:13 pm |
I usually use eyecreams but sometimes use facial moisturizers when I am in a hurry. I didn't see much difference with eyecream but I did hear that the skin around eyes is more delicate so you need eyecream to protect it. I'll suggest you try an eyecream which is very hydrating to fight the fine lines.  |
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Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:34 pm |
Many regular facecreams are too heavy for the eye area, and can result in puffiness under the eyes, etc. They can also result in milia.
That said, I seldom use an eye cream...I usually just use my 302 topical instead. I did recently decide to try Relastin Eye Silk, and I'm giving that a shot at the moment (when I remember to use it). |
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Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:45 pm |
| I use Juara's Sweet Black Tea Eye Cream. I have sensitive skin and I found a lot of eye creams made me eyes puffy and irritated. The Sweet Black Tea Eye cream isn't harsh or heavily scented. I actually noticed my crow's feet aren't as deep and a better rested look about the eyes. This result wasn't immediate, I'd say a few weeks to a month. |
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Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:09 pm |
I usually use roc retinol correxion at night, and kiehls light eye cream+dermalogica total eye care spf15 in the morning. And I still have several other eye creams to finish...  |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:04 am |
| I think most serums can be used around the eyes, and I use vitamin C serum and Retin-A under my eyes and on brow bones. Heavy creams and oils should be avoided as it can weigh the thin under eye skin down. I just got Relastin Eye Silk, as it has been recommended by several dermatologists and might contribute to boost elastin production. |
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Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:36 am |
I am not a scientist, but from what i know -- The skin around eyes is thinnest and most delicate, it doesn't break out like the rest of the face (at least i never saw it), it doesn't produce as much oil (again, as i understand), and tends to age first. Therefore it needs special products designed for THIS kind of skin/issues. Face skin is generally thicker, less delicate, more oily, etc - thus other types of products.
If i had to save on the skin care products, it wouldn't be at the expense of the eye products, surely; i'd rather give up some body scrub and just use a brush or smth.. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:56 am |
| oops forgot to add -- i liked Guerlain eye creams and serums, Shiseido, Cellcosmet, Orlane. Really disliked Thalgo. Wasn't very impressed with Caudalie, Collistar. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:16 pm |
My experience with eye creams is that they're either
1. superfluous because your face cream is fine
2. made richer to nourish the thinner skin under around your eyes
3. are made with less irritating ingredients than face creams (i.e. fragrance, high spf).
so, I think it depends on what face cream you use, and if you use a eye care sunscreen (usually with antioxidants).
My personal favorite is Shiseido Future Solution, which advertises as a "eye & lip cream." Soft and plushy, virtually no fragrance, non irritating, slightly but not overly emollient. BIG bucks, but a little goes a long way! |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:03 pm |
I don't use separate eye products, I just use what I use on the rest of my face.
Eye creams don't prevent wrinkles IMO, they may help mask them by adding extra moisture to plump up the skin. To prevent wrinkles you need to use SS and antioxidants. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:21 pm |
| Kissmark wrote: |
| In your experience do you think it's necessary to use a separate eyecream? Paula B always said that eyecreams are just ways for cosmetic companies to make more money and that the regular facial moisturizer is good enough to use used around the eyes. I always listened to this and never used any eyecreams. But recently I'm really noticing a lot of fine lines underneath my eyes and start to wonder maybe my regular face cream really is just not enough. thanks for any help. |
Paula might be right, but I love treating myself and having that extra step. I purchase an expensive one from Cellcosmet. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:41 pm |
I use Vivite' glycolic eye cream in the daytime.
I heard retinoids (I use Green Cream L3) can thin the skin, so I use glycolic + NIA24 to thicken it. That and FlexEffect massage seem to be firming and thickening the undereye skin better. I can feel with my fingers that the skin is firmer. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:47 pm |
| Kissmark wrote: |
| In your experience do you think it's necessary to use a separate eyecream? Paula B always said that eyecreams are just ways for cosmetic companies to make more money and that the regular facial moisturizer is good enough to use used around the eyes. I always listened to this and never used any eyecreams. But recently I'm really noticing a lot of fine lines underneath my eyes and start to wonder maybe my regualr face cream really is just not enough. thanks for any help. |
If you use her AHA around the eye area along with a bit of moisturizer to keep things moist, this will appear to make your eye area smoother. Remember though even eye creams won't make your fine lines and wrinkles go away. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:17 pm |
| I use Dr. Hauscha or Suki as my skin is so dry under my eyes that I need something very emollient. |
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Early 50's with rosacea and pale skin with blue eyes. Uses Baby Q and Tanda Clear. Loves to try new products. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:59 pm |
| I guess my skin around eyes is too fragile. every time when I use something oily, it comes to milia. So I always use eye gels. |
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:39 pm |
| my favorite is Phytomer Lift Contour Eye Emulsion |
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:05 am |
| Did anyone try an eyecream called EyeBelieve from Aris' Home Spa? I've heard it's meant to be excellent. |
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32 y o Norwegian woman. Congested skin, oily but dehydrated, rosacea, hyperpigmentation..currently using Exuviance |
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:38 am |
I normally use an eye cream, but if I happen to run out of an eye cream (which is really rare) I do use my moisturizer around my eyes as long as it doesn't contain strong actives. For something like Creme de la Mer, I don't see why you can't use it around your eyes as well. At least I do without any problems when I travel so I don't have to pack to many jars of potions.  |
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:44 am |
The question, I guess is this: are eye creams just another way for manufacturers to sell products, or do women really need them?
First, the skin around the eyes is different from the facial skin because (1) it’s thinner, (2) has a very different underlying structure than facial skin (more of a fatty deposit versus underlying muscle and tissue), (3) is more inclined to be reactive (swelling, puffiness), (4) has traditionally been protected from environmental damage (sunglasses, which protect the under-eye area, are the first thing you put on when you go outside), and (5) is proximate to the eye, which of course if very sensitive to contaminants. So the under-eye skin should be treated differently.
That being said, not all of the periorbital area is equally sensitive or delicate. The “crow’s feet” area is nowhere near as sensitive, and it’s one of the first areas to show damage.
Second, eye products should be developed differently from facial products. High concentrations of retinoids, AHAs, BHAs and PHAs should be kept away from the eye as the majority of consumers cannot tolerate the activity. So responsible manufacturers of eye creams have lower concentrations of some active ingredients, and more newer technologies (peptides, enzymatic derivatives, extracts) which can offer benefit without simply being a moisturizer which plumps the skin. Science and research is now allowing us to harness the skin’s own innate ability to repair itself in a manner inconceivable in years past. You also want to avoid products that may “creep”--i.e. you put something close to your eye and five minutes later it feels like you’ve rubbed it in your eye.
Third, the eyes are one of the first signs to show aging. They have all kinds of problems (crow’s feet, loss of elasticity, puffiness, dark circles). They need advanced repair. So you need a good eye cream.
If you’re going to use eye cream, look for one that works on three levels —the past (improves firmness and epidermal thickness), the present (immediately reduces fine lines and wrinkles) and the future (boosts collagen and protects against free radicals).
Justin Morgan
VP – Development
ZO Skin Health Inc. |
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:53 am |
I used PSF phyto-lift cranberry eye gel.
It didnt really reduce my dark circles nor pump up my wrinkles. but it definitely did 'lift' the appearance of my eyes. |
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Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:45 am |
i use glycel
i used la prairie before but the results seem not very evident; sisley also |
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Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:50 pm |
I use the Dr. Hauschka Eye Contour Balm and I use a lot  . So the lines a all covered and I don't have to see them  . It really smoothes, but most people won't like the shine... But one can use a little as well. It's very rich. |
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:11 am |
| violetta wrote: |
| Did anyone try an eyecream called EyeBelieve from Aris' Home Spa? I've heard it's meant to be excellent. |
i've heard that as well. from nanci, (ncn) on her site she raves about it, but i haven't seen anyone else post about it or make similar remarks. has anyone used this product? i'm very interested in hearing about it and your experience w/ it. TIA! |
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:22 am |
| FYIguy wrote: |
If you’re going to use eye cream, look for one that works on three levels —the past (improves firmness and epidermal thickness), the present (immediately reduces fine lines and wrinkles) and the future (boosts collagen and protects against free radicals).
Justin Morgan
VP – Development
ZO Skin Health Inc. |
hi FYIguy,
i'm a BIG obagi fan and faithful user. [if you saw my facial, neck and decollete skin you'd know why ]
which eye cream product meet these criteria? elastiderm or the new eye cream product from the ZO line?
TIA! |
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:51 am |
| I used the Eyebelieve, pinklyfe. I did not find that it did anything and it really burned my skin (and I don't have sensitive skin!) |
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