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Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:34 pm  |
| I see that theledman now has a red/ir/yellow light. Has anyone tried it? Maybe compared it to the AALS? I am trying to decide whether I should get this, or wait until Hautelook has another sale on the AALS (for $199). It's larger than the lightstim, which is probably a good thing, but the yellow is 590nm, whereas the amber is 600 (in the Lightstim). Not sure how big of a difference it would make. Anyone out there with some feedback? TIA. |
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Nikita99
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Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:14 am |
This is my first post on this forum, but have been reading for a few months. I purchased the anti-aging LED unit from the LED man and have been using it 2-3 times a week consistently for 3 months. I use it for 3-4 minutes per section with all the lights on and then just use the amber lights alone for about 10 minutes all over my neck and under my eyes. It takes about an hour. I love, love, love it. My skin tone is more even, my skin seems firmer especially around my jawline and neck which is where I was concerned mostly. I'm 44 and do have pretty good skin, but was seeing sagging with some weight loss. I'm very happy with the unit. I wanted to get the light stim, but it was a little outside of my budget and they wouldn't give me any type of specs when I called. The LED man sent me the exact data sheets of the lights he is using and they are very strong and bright. I'm an electrical engineer and his unit seemed just fine compared to the others based on what I could ascertain in my research mostly from this site. So thanks ladies for all the research you've done. My skin looks better than it has in years.  |
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Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:14 pm |
I have his infrared/red/yellow and just ordered a yellow.
My plan is to use the infrared/red/yellow for short time, but use the yellow longer to pull up collagen. i'll report back what happens!
also i have a lightstim. i like it as well and feel it has done a very good job on a giant arm scar and my hands. it's nice to have a few units, it cuts down on the time! |
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:12 am |
I just wanted to rave about the excellent personal and fast customer service that the LED MAN gave me. His email response was same day. Unusual ,in this "get-back-to-you-when-I-get-around-to-it-culture" we live in.
I had problems with my unit when I received it. He instantly upon receiving my email worked out a solution that made me quite happy. I just wish other businesses could follow his example. I'm a satisfied customer! He is an honorable business man. He stands behind his product!! |
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:11 pm |
actually i've got to agree with creamcheese. i've been using ledman units for about 3 years and they've been fine but one had some bulbs go out a couple years ago and one's power supply had a prob (not big deals or genuine quality issues, i don't think) so i finally inquired about getting it repaired and his response time and level of customer service really impressed me. he definitely seems to put the customer first which, to me, goes a long way.
plus i haven't had any real complaints about the products- i now have the red/infra, yellow, and triple array handhelds- and have had nice enough results from the first two (the third is new) that even with the longer treatment time (compared to aals or others), it's warranted putting in the effort consistently since purchasing.
anyway, don't mean to sound dodgy with a positive comment about v's service right after the other one, but the timing just happened to align. |
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Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:39 pm |
Hi everyone - Currently I have been using the AALS with red, infrared, and amber lights for
anitaging and to stimulate collagen production.
Does anyone know if the combination of the
3 lights or just all amber lights produces more collagen? Am asking because the Lumiere and other professional LED lights have amber only. Does anyone have experience trying it both ways and got better results with one or the other??
Curious skin want to know! DIPhx |
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Sun May 06, 2012 10:34 am |
Thought I would bump this thread... Any satisfied customers willing to give an update or share their experience with these LED units??
DiPhx, did you ever get your question answered or make a decision to try another LED unit? I have the AALS and was thinking a panel with more infrareds would help the process... |
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Sun May 06, 2012 10:43 am |
| Luminosity wrote: |
Thought I would bump this thread... Any satisfied customers willing to give an update or share their experience with these LED units??
DiPhx, did you ever get your question answered or make a decision to try another LED unit? I have the AALS and was thinking a panel with more infrareds would help the process... |
You are a total gadget junkie yea yea look who's talking!  |
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Sun May 06, 2012 10:54 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Luminosity wrote: |
Thought I would bump this thread... Any satisfied customers willing to give an update or share their experience with these LED units??
DiPhx, did you ever get your question answered or make a decision to try another LED unit? I have the AALS and was thinking a panel with more infrareds would help the process... |
You are a total gadget junkie yea yea look who's talking! |
Busted!
However in comparison to other long timers here on EDS, I think I'm a baby in comparison. LOL.
AALS
The PMD which I'm going try out today!
Dermaroller .5mm (which I stopped using)
Lyapko roller (use everyday)
Skin scrubber (use once a week or two)
Clarisonic (use everyday)
And that's it!
Ok, here's the thing, since turning 43 I'm really noticing the droop and it freaks me out. LOL. However, I've been upping my meditations lately and the skin obsession is slowly diminishing. Yah, I think my priorities need some straightening out! |
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Sun May 06, 2012 11:01 am |
| Luminosity wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Luminosity wrote: |
Thought I would bump this thread... Any satisfied customers willing to give an update or share their experience with these LED units??
DiPhx, did you ever get your question answered or make a decision to try another LED unit? I have the AALS and was thinking a panel with more infrareds would help the process... |
You are a total gadget junkie yea yea look who's talking! |
Busted!
However in comparison to other long timers here on EDS, I think I'm a baby in comparison. LOL.
AALS
The PMD which I'm going try out today!
Dermaroller .5mm (which I stopped using)
Lyapko roller (use everyday)
Skin scrubber (use once a week or two)
Clarisonic (use everyday)
And that's it!
Ok, here's the thing, since turning 43 I'm really noticing the droop and it freaks me out. LOL. However, I've been upping my meditations lately and the skin obsession is slowly diminishing. Yah, I think my priorities need some straightening out! |
LOL.
Mine:
PMD
Skinn Sonic Brush
HF Professional Device
LED
Just ordered today a .5 mm and a 1mm roller!
Three of which I bought in the last few months, now I want the Lyapko roller! 
Have I forgotten any of my gadgets? |
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Sun May 06, 2012 11:10 am |
Oh, oooh... the HF... Must. Hear. More.
Tell me all....
That's another one I've been thinking about! Tightening? Toning? I'd like it for the ozone and blemish zapping as well.
(Or am I hijacking this thread? You can post your answer on another thread if it's more appropriate... just tell me where!) |
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Sun May 06, 2012 11:13 am |
| Luminosity wrote: |
Oh, oooh... the HF... Must. Hear. More.
Tell me all....
That's another one I've been thinking about! Tightening? Toning? I'd like it for the ozone and blemish zapping as well.
(Or am I hijacking this thread? You can post your answer on another thread if it's more appropriate... just tell me where!) |
I will post a link as soon as I get another window open! |
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Sun May 06, 2012 11:23 am |
Thank you! I'll be busy reading for the next week, I see!  |
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Sun May 06, 2012 11:30 am |
| Luminosity wrote: |
Thank you! I'll be busy reading for the next week, I see! |
LOL, I know or skip to the last 5-6 pages for now! |
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Mon May 07, 2012 8:48 pm |
| Luminosity wrote: |
Thought I would bump this thread... Any satisfied customers willing to give an update or share their experience with these LED units??
DiPhx, did you ever get your question answered or make a decision to try another LED unit? I have the AALS and was thinking a panel with more infrareds would help the process... |
I will report that I think the Ledman makes excellent devices, however I feel that LED does absolutely nothing for my skin. In fact, I feel it makes it worse. The red/yellow/IR was terrible, but solid yellow was ok. overall though, i don't really get much out of my handheld devices, it's not a great treatment for me. some people love it, we are all unique and different!
aside from skincare, or if someone is really wanting LED, i would highly recommend LedMan, his units are fantastic!!!
furthermore, i do like my red/yellow/IR for sports injury type issues. so for that i'm happy to have the devices and feel it's worth it. i have lent my units to people with sports type injuries and all said the unit helped them feel improvement. the size of the unit is bigger than most on the market and i consider this one of the many pluses. (i also have a lightstim) |
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Mon May 07, 2012 9:23 pm |
| redtigerwoman wrote: |
| Luminosity wrote: |
Thought I would bump this thread... Any satisfied customers willing to give an update or share their experience with these LED units??
DiPhx, did you ever get your question answered or make a decision to try another LED unit? I have the AALS and was thinking a panel with more infrareds would help the process... |
I will report that I think the Ledman makes excellent devices, however I feel that LED does absolutely nothing for my skin. In fact, I feel it makes it worse. The red/yellow/IR was terrible, but solid yellow was ok. overall though, i don't really get much out of my handheld devices, it's not a great treatment for me. some people love it, we are all unique and different!
aside from skincare, or if someone is really wanting LED, i would highly recommend LedMan, his units are fantastic!!!
furthermore, i do like my red/yellow/IR for sports injury type issues. so for that i'm happy to have the devices and feel it's worth it. i have lent my units to people with sports type injuries and all said the unit helped them feel improvement. the size of the unit is bigger than most on the market and i consider this one of the many pluses. (i also have a lightstim) |
Thank you for your feedback... can I ask if the Lightstim also causes your skin to become worse? I was wondering which of the LED-man units to get but since I also have the LS I was thinking maybe just the red/infrared unit to give me more of what is missing from the LS. I'm not sure that is great logic!  Hard to know the best way to go. I've also been seriously considering the DPL panel. |
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Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:33 pm |
Hi,
I am not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I have been talking to the LED man and hoping to have him make me an "extra strength" unit.
I have been researching the red light treatments and looking for the best machine to purchase. In my opinion,and I have read studies to back me up, an effective "dose" of red light for skin rejuvenation is 126 joules of red light at 630nm delivered to the skin that is covered by the lights, and 66 joules of infrared light at 830nm. This is what dermatologists provide, 1-2 times a week, to get results. Many home devices aim for just 4 joules. The LED man's hand held devices may provide up to 6 joules in about 4 minutes, which is probably as good or better than many home units. However, to get a dose of 126 joules from these devices, it would take a long time. I think, about 84 minutes for each area.
I am not going to explain how I did the math, because that rattles even my brain, but I think if the LED man can make me an 8" square panel, using 45-3watt red LEDs in the 630nm wavelength, it would get me into the 65-109mW/cm2 range (65-109, depending heavily on the true efficiency (radiant output) of the LEDs). This would be wonderful, because at about 105mW/cm2, I could deliver 126 joules to about half of my face in 20 minutes.
Oh, I think Santa is coming down the chimney. I guess I need to go to sleep! Merry Christmas! |
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Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:29 pm |
| chasemom wrote: |
Hi,
I am not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I have been talking to the LED man and hoping to have him make me an "extra strength" unit.
I have been researching the red light treatments and looking for the best machine to purchase. In my opinion,and I have read studies to back me up, an effective "dose" of red light for skin rejuvenation is 126 joules of red light at 630nm delivered to the skin that is covered by the lights, and 66 joules of infrared light at 830nm. This is what dermatologists provide, 1-2 times a week, to get results. Many home devices aim for just 4 joules. The LED man's hand held devices may provide up to 6 joules in about 4 minutes, which is probably as good or better than many home units. However, to get a dose of 126 joules from these devices, it would take a long time. I think, about 84 minutes for each area.
I am not going to explain how I did the math, because that rattles even my brain, but I think if the LED man can make me an 8" square panel, using 45-3watt red LEDs in the 630nm wavelength, it would get me into the 65-109mW/cm2 range (65-109, depending heavily on the true efficiency (radiant output) of the LEDs). This would be wonderful, because at about 105mW/cm2, I could deliver 126 joules to about half of my face in 20 minutes.
Oh, I think Santa is coming down the chimney. I guess I need to go to sleep! Merry Christmas! |
This is very interesting. I have a small unit made by the LED man many years ago and it worked well enough, but I lost interest like many skin treatments along the way.
I have recently been back on his site wondering about a larger unit...I am sure if I could reduce treatment time I would use it more. Please let me know what he comes back with and also what the price is likely to be.
Has he commented about your calculations at all? I found he was very helpful and informative when I was purchasing. |
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:28 pm |
Luminocity, did you ever order a stronger device from the LED MAN?
I have been researching like crazy too - so many different devices - had a tanda which wasn't that strong, but did work to some degree - there is this stronger device in the UK RESTORELITE but it only has 15 - 1072 nm infrared lights (roughly 3x2 inch diamond shape) - what I like though is that it seems to really tighten loose eyelid skin - which is my main area of concern
Like the idea of dealing with the Led Man though as his customer service is very good ... |
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Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:05 am |
I have just ordered 2 panels from the Led man
Can't wait to receive them, I found him very helpful and nice, everything that I had seen on the forum about him is true. I have a Quaser which I find very time consuming as there is not enough lights, so I to aim to use 2 panels on my face and neck at the same time.whilst trying to juggle with my quaser on my hands, maybe later I will go for another device for my hands, I have loved reading all the posts on this forum, so informative, please keep them coming |
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Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:18 pm |
| hyacynthgirl wrote: |
| I see that theledman now has a red/ir/yellow light. Has anyone tried it? Maybe compared it to the AALS? I am trying to decide whether I should get this, or wait until Hautelook has another sale on the AALS (for $199). It's larger than the lightstim, which is probably a good thing, but the yellow is 590nm, whereas the amber is 600 (in the Lightstim). Not sure how big of a difference it would make. Anyone out there with some feedback? TIA. |
I have this 96led array, also the blue and the amber hand helds, all from the ledman. They work well. I wire them through my pulsed LED machine I bought for $3200 in 2000 when the technology was new the the Skincare field. (Won't be doing that again anytime soon! I bought that machine at a Skincare show and I wanted it so bad, I just bought it. No research, nothing. But I still use it to this day in many of my treatments on clients so I guess I got my money's worth!)
Here's the crazy thing, I get the same results with this plant grow light I bought off eBay:
http://youtu.be/T2gBEb7uZ0U
The trick is to get is as close to the skin as possible and get in at least a half hour twice a week.
Cheers,
Christine Byer |
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Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:25 pm |
| girltwocb wrote: |
Here's the crazy thing, I get the same results with this plant grow light I bought off eBay:
http://youtu.be/T2gBEb7uZ0U
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I've been hunting to get those panels on ebay for several weeks now. They go so fast that it is hard to get one.  |
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Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:24 pm |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| girltwocb wrote: |
Here's the crazy thing, I get the same results with this plant grow light I bought off eBay:
http://youtu.be/T2gBEb7uZ0U
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I've been hunting to get those panels on ebay for several weeks now. They go so fast that it is hard to get one. |
Here's a Buy It Now option:
Pro 225 LED 14 Watt Hydroponic Plant Hydro Grow Light Panel 14w Red
http://bit.ly/1g1ZlVo #ebayipad
I don't know this seller as I bought 3 from growace, but this is less than I paid for it! |
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Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:40 pm |
This is an article I have read, after reading I ordered the red and the infrared from the Ledman
Blue light has a wavelength of 450-500nm
and red light has a wavelength of 610-760.
However there is another light that is crucial when using Leds for rejuvenation treatments and that's infrared which is 760-950nm. the larger the number, the deeper the penetration and it is imperative that any machine you use have the capability of both red and infrared. the best way to find this out is to ask what the highest wavelength is |
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