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Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:50 am      Reply with quote
Kandy wrote:
my face sometimes feels a little burnt, allthough it doesn't look burned on the surface, I guess I have overdone it a bit last time..? Shock

No I don't think you have, I remember reading about that in the directions or in an email that Halina sent me about that being possible and it is fine.
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Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:03 am      Reply with quote
Hi Toby,
I am 55, and my areas of concern are slight sagging under my eyes, small lines at mouth corners and general tightening and brightening.I have just done my 5th treatment and tried to go slower, which is difficult for me as I usually do everything quickly, and find it hard to relax and go slowly with anything I do. I kept it on medium power as when I did the treatment before on high, the power kept switching off so I figured it's probably too high for me. My skin, at the moment, feels really soft and smooth. I know it will take a while for collagen and tightening to appear, but everyone else seems to have seen an immediate difference in their skin, whereas I haven't yet, but I will persevere, and let you all know how it goes.
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Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:20 am      Reply with quote
Lililulu,
I am certainly age wise right with you at 53. I know you mentioned the series of CACI treatments you have had and now you are using the Tua Viso. Maybe you have kept ahead of the game and your face really in much better shape than others your age.
For me, one of the things I have noticed about my face in the last couple of years is not so much wrinkles and fine lines but puffiness and some sag. For me this device immediately clears out the puffiness yet I have to admit the fine lines instantly are almost not there. Now that is initially but even after days of no treatment they are diminished. I use the high heat always. I also have a prolight red and amber that I have used after the stop treatment. But the 2nd treatment that was so WOW I only used the Stop. Actually I have only used the LED lights twice and I have done five treatments.
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Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:35 am      Reply with quote
I found this adaptor / converter its cheap on amazon.Would this work? will cost 5 bucks with shipping ...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AMFNHS
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I found this adaptor / converter its cheap on amazon.Would this work? will cost 5 bucks with shipping ...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AMFNHS

No this adaptor won't work. It has to have a place for three prongs to fit into it on one side for the UK three prong plug, then it has two prongs on the other side to go into a 120 volt socket like in the US.
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Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:35 pm      Reply with quote
Toby wrote:
simpleMD wrote:
I found this adaptor / converter its cheap on amazon.Would this work? will cost 5 bucks with shipping ...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AMFNHS

No this adaptor won't work. It has to have a place for three prongs to fit into it on one side for the UK three prong plug, then it has two prongs on the other side to go into a 120 volt socket like in the US.
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Get the Radio Shack one..it was $10 and worked perfectly.

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I just finished my first STOP treatment. Shock

The quality of the packaging, documentation, the unit and products (didn't try the cream) seem to be very high. They definitely put some thought and time into coming up with the complete package.

I spread a thin layer of the sticky goo on my face, and noticed that it liquidifies as bit once it is on your skin. I can see where people would be tempted to start out with too much, and then end up with too thick of a layer.

I connected my power supply to the unit, saw the green light on the power unit, and picked Low. I started rubbing, waiting patiently for the orange light come on, and kept on glancing at the green light. No heat, so I switched it to Medium, and then finally High, Still no heat. Waiting, rubbing, waiting, rubbing, and finally stopped to look at the unit out frustration and...DUH!!! I forgot to press the power button! Embarassed Once I did that, another green light showed up on the unit. I started with Medium, felt a little heat, but quickly moved to High.

I found the unit very easy to use, and I thought the octagonal design of the head was a very good choice...it worked very well beside my nose, etc. The lights were very good indicators...I could quickly see that I had a tendency to go too fast, and then the orange light went off (so I slowed down).

I used High the whole time, and the only place I felt any significant heat was close to the inner corner of my eye, both upper and lower. I only did right under my eyebrow, but that inner corner was sensitive...next time I will do that area on medium. I also did my neck, and over my Juvederm remnants in my marionette lines.

When I was done, I could see some slight lifting, but nothing miraculous by any means. My forehead lines were definitely still staring at me...one for each of my 3 past major employers. Rolling Eyes I had no swelling, nor any sunburned feeling immediately after the treatment, but do feel a little tingling 30 mins later. I also had no problems going over my Juvederm...I expected to possibly feel some additional heat after talking to Allergan, but that did not happen. We'll see how things look tomorrow morning!

And yes, I did take pics before treatment, and immediately after treatment...if there is any significant improvement tomorrow, I will take more pics and post them. Smile

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Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:24 pm      Reply with quote
Just a progress report on my usage of STOP.

I have now been using it about 2 weeks, have done 6 treatments.

Really, my skin looks AWESOME!! I had good skin to begin with, but it looks so plump, and my fine lines under my eyes are nearly gone!!!!

(and I am not a paid spokesperson for them, lol!)

Really I am so impressed so far! Very Happy Very Happy
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Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:20 pm      Reply with quote
OK needless to say I too am very interested in the Stop.

However my husband (a phD electrical engineer) wanted me to ck some stuff out before I decide whether or not to purchase.

I have looked around & cannot seem to find some specs I need. Am hoping that someone (perhaps a Stop owner) may have the answers.

1. Maximum Output Power

2. Output Frequency

3. Modulation if any

I see this info is available for the apollo & regen, but can't find for the Stop.

I am concerned re the possibility of fat loss & additionally DNA damage.

TIA for any help!
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Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:47 pm      Reply with quote
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OK needless to say I too am very interested in the Stop.

However my husband (a phD electrical engineer) wanted me to ck some stuff out before I decide whether or not to purchase.

I have looked around & cannot seem to find some specs I need. Am hoping that someone (perhaps a Stop owner) may have the answers.

1. Maximum Output Power

2. Output Frequency

3. Modulation if any

I see this info is available for the apollo & regen, but can't find for the Stop.

I am concerned re the possibility of fat loss & additionally DNA damage.

TIA for any help!


All great questions cabrita.. Please keep us informed of the outcome, if indeed someone knows the 'specs'..

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Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:21 pm      Reply with quote
cabrita wrote:
However my husband (a phD electrical engineer) wanted me to ck some stuff out before I decide whether or not to purchase.

I have looked around & cannot seem to find some specs I need. Am hoping that someone (perhaps a Stop owner) may have the answers.

1. Maximum Output Power

2. Output Frequency

3. Modulation if any

I see this info is available for the apollo & regen, but can't find for the Stop.

I am concerned re the possibility of fat loss & additionally DNA damage.

TIA for any help!


This was on the STOP website, and there is no additional info in the user's manual.

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Technical Specifications:
Weight: 85gr
Physical Dimensions: H=134mm L=51mm W=32mm
Operating conditions Temperature: +5°C to +30°C
Humidity: 20RH to 80RH
Rating: AC 100Vac to 240Vac 0.6 A 50/60Hz
DC 7V/8V/9V 1.5A
Transport and Storage: Temperature: 0°C to 40°C
Humidity: 10RH to 90RH
Electrical Safety: Power supply is classified as Class ll – double insulation

http://www.stop-age.com/product-info.php

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Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:24 pm      Reply with quote
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The quality of the packaging, documentation, the unit and products (didn't try the cream) seem to be very high. They definitely put some thought and time into coming up with the complete package.


I went ahead and tried the cream. I will use it after each treatment until it's gone, but I wouldn't buy any more...it leaves a rather 'tacky' feeling film on your face. I put it on after a layer of my ZO Growth Factor Serum (very light, alcohol based gel).

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Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:36 pm      Reply with quote
Thx Bethany. That's all I could find also.

I'll give it a couple more days & see if anyone else can provide me with this info.

Otherwise any thoughts on best place for rapid e-mail response?
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Thx Bethany. That's all I could find also.

I'll give it a couple more days & see if anyone else can provide me with this info.

Otherwise any thoughts on best place for rapid e-mail response?


I would go to Win-Health.com and use their "Contact Us" form....everyone (but me) seems to have gotten very fast responses from them.

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Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:57 pm      Reply with quote
Thx again Bethany!

Okay I will go ahead & contact them & let you know what I find out & also what my husband's take is.
(for those of you who are interested)

I'm REALLY hoping it's not to good to be true!
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Lipglossdoll....seeing we are 30ish!! ha ha...I noticed you said plumping of your skin (and all you others that are using STOP can chime in as well)
One of my main concerns is loss of fat volume in my cheeks which used to be one of my most noted features...I seriously cannot believe how much volume I have lost over the last year, this would be fully to blame for my skin sagging the way it is. While I still have nice cheek bones and a bit of definition in my hollow, its the fatty part that is no longer there along the ridge of my orbital bone, which really seems to be bumming me out big time lately.....
I guess my question is, would the STOP address that issue of volume loss by plumping that area if used there? Even if it didn't, I am hoping to get some skin tightening due to the volume loss so it wont look so apparent.....

I have been going around and around in my head today about this....I am to the point of seriously thinking about gaining weight in hopes some of that fat goes to my face.....I am sure it's just one of those bummer days for me and I am just beating myself up over this....I think I need a glass of wine, or maybe a whole bottle would be more appropriate...ugh...Crying or Very sad

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Here are a few good studies on "Radio Frequency" that are very interesting;

http://www.smartskincare.com/resabstracts/subjcategidx/radiofrequency/


I am so teetering on top of the fence, and just one more itty, bitty shove should do it... Very Happy

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Kassy....I am almost ready to DIVE off the fence!!! Rolling Eyes Shock Laughing just as soon as I crack open this wine.....

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When I was done, I could see some slight lifting, but nothing miraculous by any means. My forehead lines were definitely still staring at me...one for each of my 3 past major employers. Rolling Eyes I had no swelling, nor any sunburned feeling immediately after the treatment, but do feel a little tingling 30 mins later. I also had no problems going over my Juvederm...I expected to possibly feel some additional heat after talking to Allergan, but that did not happen. We'll see how things look tomorrow morning!


Just a quick update....I did my STOP treatment about 2pm today, and 6 hours later I can still feel a little tingling (or something indescribable) in some areas around my eyes. My lines are also less obvious, and I see a little more lifting. For the most part, I attribute that to edema (swelling caused by fluid) as they mentioned in the manual. But I look totally fine...no redness,etc.

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Kassy....I am almost ready to DIVE off the fence!!! Rolling Eyes Shock Laughing just as soon as I crack open this wine.....


Now you're talking.... Wink

I'm awfully close Bren, awfully close.. Laughing

Mr Kassy just asked me what I was reading so intently, and I told him about the "STOP", and how tempted I'm getting...He said, "You don't need all that s*it, you're already beautiful, and I look like your father as it is.. (awww!).. Laughing Laughing Laughing , "but go ahead and get it if it makes you happy"... Then he said, "I'll go and play poker at the Casino, and win you $600., so consider it a freebie"...... What a guy!

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Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:03 pm      Reply with quote
Haha! He must be a great poker player! That's a lotta samolies!

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You girls can always hold off until I have a couple more treatments and post pics...

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I just did a google search for "Tripolar" radio frequency, and came across this pdf on (what appears to be) a professional size Stop..

http://www.stop-age.com/userfiles/Dr_Levenberg's%20Whitepaper(1).pdf

(copy + paste entire link in browser)

Can somebody please read this and explain to me (us) how these machines determine what 'fat' to zap, and what 'fat' to leave intact..

I'm thinking that the tool for the face just doesn't reach as deep, is that correct..? This pdf from the Israeli Dr. is implying it targets fat...

I'm sure I must be mis-interpreting this.. HELP!

Beth, I am waiting patiently for your review and happy snaps ... Laughing Your last post is looking very possitive indeed girl.

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Beth, I am waiting patiently for your review and happy snaps ... Laughing Your last post is looking very possitive indeed girl.


It is, but if improvements are just due to fluid, I will NOT be happy!

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Kassy_A wrote:
Here are a few good studies on "Radio Frequency" that are very interesting;

http://www.smartskincare.com/resabstracts/subjcategidx/radiofrequency/


I am so teetering on top of the fence, and just one more itty, bitty shove should do it... Very Happy


OK.... so who wants to come visit me and let me try their STOP device?


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