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Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:41 am      Reply with quote
Does anyone know if there are OTC products (or EDS products) that contain Retinol to help with fine lines? It Retinol the best choice?

I did check out ZO Skin Health...the night cream is a little out of my budget Shock
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:10 am      Reply with quote
I can't say whether retinol is the best choice for you - as I'm not qualified to make those sorts of choices for anyone (much less myself some days!) - but I do know of a few retinol products that are widely available OTC...

Of course, they aren't as strong as Rx formulations - but might be worth a try for you...

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ROC - RoCETINOL CORREXION® Deep Wrinkle Night Cream

Skinceuticals Retinol - 0.5 and 1.0

Neutrogena Healthy Skin Original Formula

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Hope this helps!
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:22 pm      Reply with quote
i've had great results with Avene Retrinal. I wish EDS would carry the Retrinal and Eluage lines.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:21 pm      Reply with quote
I think that the PSF Retinal products that are available at EDS are popular with Forum members. However, I've never used them - I use prescription strength Retin-A, so I'm not sure how it compares.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:03 pm      Reply with quote
Here are some that EDS carries, tiffany....

DS Laboratories Viterol A Lotion and Cream. I think Bushy did a review on this one:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/ds-labs-anti-aging-m_555_557.htm

Benev Retinol Cream:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/benev-retinol-cream-p_8827.htm

Jan Marini Factor-A Lotion & Cream that uses All-Trans-Retinol:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/jan-marini-factor-a-lotio-p_1666.htm
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/jan-marini-factor-a-cream-p_1668.htm

Skin Tx Retinol SR Facial Treatment:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/skin-tx-retinol-sr-facial-p_4167.htm

Remergent Progressive Retinol Complex 0.4% &
Remergent Advanced Retinol Therapy 1%:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/remergent-progressive-ret-p_9191.htm
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/remergent-advanced-retino-p_9190.htm

Here's the link for the PSF one Keliu mentioned, PSF Retinol Nite Repair Active Retinol, 0.5% & 1&:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/psf-retinol-nite-repair-0-p_4958.htm
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/psf-retinol-nite-repair-1-p_4959.htm

I really liked Afirm 2X when I was using it although I don't have anything to compare it to.
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:53 am      Reply with quote
marci65 wrote:
i've had great results with Avene Retrinal. I wish EDS would carry the Retrinal and Eluage lines.


I also would like to see Avene Retrinal on EDS! I`ve posted a request for this line on EDS Lounge, you might also want to post a request there - may be it will be heard!!! Smile

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Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:26 am      Reply with quote
havana8 wrote:
Here are some that EDS carries, tiffany....




Thank you so much!! That is so helpful Very Happy
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:24 am      Reply with quote
Hi
I am a big fan of Neutrogena Healthy Skin Night Cream! Lots of great reviews on MUA also.

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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:01 pm      Reply with quote
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there.

This is my first Leaf & Rusher product and it's made a difference in my fine lines - especially around my eyes. And, it's led me to discover more Leaf & Rusher products - so far, the only product in the line I've tried that I don't love is the lip balm (not worth the $$).

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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:07 pm      Reply with quote
lunarmm wrote:
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each). 2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there.


glotherapeutics (also on EDS) has one that uses 3% retinol:

glotherapeutics gloRetinol CS 3% Retinol
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/glotherapeutics-gloretino-p_9702.htm

glotherapeutics gloRenew Serum 1% Retinol
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/glotherapeutics-glorenew-p_9699.htm
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:30 pm      Reply with quote
havana8 wrote:
glotherapeutics (also on EDS) has one that uses 3% retinol


Thanks, Havana, good to know!

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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:36 pm      Reply with quote
These retinol creams are recommended by the famous dermatologist, Dr Leslie Baumann:

Afirm 3x
http://www.dermstore.com/product_Afirm+3x_86.htm

Philosophy Help Me
http://www.amazon.com/philosophy-help-overnight-resurfacing-cream/dp/B0014GSB96

La Roche Posay BioMedic Retinol 30
http://www.dermstore.com/product_Retinol+Cream+30_1563.htm

Replenix Retinol Smoothing serum
http://www.dermstore.com/product_Retinol+Smoothing+Serum+5X_5054.htm

Here is a post from the blog futurederm.com, where she reviews and compares her three favorite retinol creams, SkinCeuticals Retinol 0.5, Philosophy Help Me and Neutrogena Healthy Skin Original Formula:

http://futurederm.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/product-review-which-otc-retinol-treatment-is-the-best/

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Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:38 pm      Reply with quote
Me three on EDS carrying Avene retinaldehyde products. I alternate between Eluage and Diacneal, but would gladly use either one or the Retrinal line is EDS would stock it.
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:16 pm      Reply with quote
lunarmm wrote:
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there...


I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.

Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone?
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caboodle wrote:
lunarmm wrote:
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there...


I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.

Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone?


I agree - but maybe they recommend morning use as well because retinol is not as strong as Retin-A.
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Keliu wrote:
caboodle wrote:
lunarmm wrote:
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there...


I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.

Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone?


I agree - but maybe they recommend morning use as well because retinol is not as strong as Retin-A.


I also agree. They may be recommending twice a day for people to see results faster. Retinol is really much weaker than Retin-A.

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Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:51 am      Reply with quote
Aiva wrote:
Keliu wrote:
caboodle wrote:
lunarmm wrote:
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there...


I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.

Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone?


I agree - but maybe they recommend morning use as well because retinol is not as strong as Retin-A.


I also agree. They may be recommending twice a day for people to see results faster. Retinol is really much weaker than Retin-A.


I think that using a 2 % strength retinol product twice a day is far too much for most people's skin. Most manufacturers of retinol products recommend applying a 0.5 % or 1 % retinol product once a day (PM).

Actually I suspect that Leaf & Rusher Active Serum does not contain such a strong concentration. Pure retinol is not listed on the ingredients list, but so is Retinoxytrimethylsilane.

My guess is that this is a weaker derivative of retinol (please weigh in, anyone who might know something about this agent). I think this example illustrates the importance of reading ingredients lists before choosing a product. Personally I would prefer a product with pure retinol.

Leaf & Rusher Active serum
Ingredients:
Cyclopentisiloxane, Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Isodecane, Dimethicone Crosspolymer-3, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Dimethicone, Glycine Soja (soybean oil), Retinoxytrimethylsilane, Palmitate, Bisabolol


http://www.skinstore.com/p-3482-leaf-and-rusher-active-serum.aspx

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Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:16 pm      Reply with quote
Others also available on EDS plus a few new ones just added...

Skin Tx Retinol SR Facial Treatment
– .3% encapsulated retinol
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/skin-tx-retinol-sr-facial-p_4167.htm

Rejudicare FX Retinol SRX Night Gel
– 0.1% retinoic ester
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/rejudicare-fx-retinol-srx-p_10176.htm

Laboratoire Dr Renaud Pro-Retinol Serum
– pro-retinol, b-glucans, HA, aloe
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/laboratoire-dr-renaud-pro-p_1615.htm

Skin Tx Retinol SR Eye Treatment
– gel capsules of C, A, K + E
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/skin-tx-retinol-sr-eye-tr-p_4161.htm

SkinBiology Protect & Restore Cream - Lavender Oil and High Retinol
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/skinbiology-protect-resto-p_7822.htm

SkinMedica Retinol Complex
– Pro-Retinoic acids (Retinol, Retinyl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate) + E
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/skinmedica-retinol-comple-p_880.htm
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Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:07 pm      Reply with quote
This is really helpful. I only knew about Neutrogena and ROC.
Any tradeoff between the brands mentioned above?
Say, good for oily skin with acne?
I find Avene products very thick.
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Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:08 am      Reply with quote
CosMedix Refining Treatment - 4% Retinol:

http://www.cosmedix.com/product.php?pid=10

There is also an 8% version.
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