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Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:41 am  |
Does anyone know if there are OTC products (or EDS products) that contain Retinol to help with fine lines? It Retinol the best choice?
I did check out ZO Skin Health...the night cream is a little out of my budget  |
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:10 am |
I can't say whether retinol is the best choice for you - as I'm not qualified to make those sorts of choices for anyone (much less myself some days!) - but I do know of a few retinol products that are widely available OTC...
Of course, they aren't as strong as Rx formulations - but might be worth a try for you...
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ROC - RoCETINOL CORREXION® Deep Wrinkle Night Cream
Skinceuticals Retinol - 0.5 and 1.0
Neutrogena Healthy Skin Original Formula
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Hope this helps! |
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:22 pm |
| i've had great results with Avene Retrinal. I wish EDS would carry the Retrinal and Eluage lines. |
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:21 pm |
| I think that the PSF Retinal products that are available at EDS are popular with Forum members. However, I've never used them - I use prescription strength Retin-A, so I'm not sure how it compares. |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:53 am |
| marci65 wrote: |
| i've had great results with Avene Retrinal. I wish EDS would carry the Retrinal and Eluage lines. |
I also would like to see Avene Retrinal on EDS! I`ve posted a request for this line on EDS Lounge, you might also want to post a request there - may be it will be heard!!!  |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:26 am |
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| Here are some that EDS carries, tiffany.... |
Thank you so much!! That is so helpful  |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:24 am |
Hi
I am a big fan of Neutrogena Healthy Skin Night Cream! Lots of great reviews on MUA also. |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:01 pm |
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there.
This is my first Leaf & Rusher product and it's made a difference in my fine lines - especially around my eyes. And, it's led me to discover more Leaf & Rusher products - so far, the only product in the line I've tried that I don't love is the lip balm (not worth the $$). |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:30 pm |
| havana8 wrote: |
| glotherapeutics (also on EDS) has one that uses 3% retinol |
Thanks, Havana, good to know! |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:36 pm |
These retinol creams are recommended by the famous dermatologist, Dr Leslie Baumann:
Afirm 3x
http://www.dermstore.com/product_Afirm+3x_86.htm
Philosophy Help Me
http://www.amazon.com/philosophy-help-overnight-resurfacing-cream/dp/B0014GSB96
La Roche Posay BioMedic Retinol 30
http://www.dermstore.com/product_Retinol+Cream+30_1563.htm
Replenix Retinol Smoothing serum
http://www.dermstore.com/product_Retinol+Smoothing+Serum+5X_5054.htm
Here is a post from the blog futurederm.com, where she reviews and compares her three favorite retinol creams, SkinCeuticals Retinol 0.5, Philosophy Help Me and Neutrogena Healthy Skin Original Formula:
http://futurederm.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/product-review-which-otc-retinol-treatment-is-the-best/ |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:38 pm |
| Me three on EDS carrying Avene retinaldehyde products. I alternate between Eluage and Diacneal, but would gladly use either one or the Retrinal line is EDS would stock it. |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:16 pm |
| lunarmm wrote: |
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there... |
I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.
Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone? |
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:38 pm |
| caboodle wrote: |
| lunarmm wrote: |
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there... |
I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.
Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone? |
I agree - but maybe they recommend morning use as well because retinol is not as strong as Retin-A. |
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:34 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
| caboodle wrote: |
| lunarmm wrote: |
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there... |
I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.
Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone? |
I agree - but maybe they recommend morning use as well because retinol is not as strong as Retin-A. |
I also agree. They may be recommending twice a day for people to see results faster. Retinol is really much weaker than Retin-A. |
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:51 am |
| Aiva wrote: |
| Keliu wrote: |
| caboodle wrote: |
| lunarmm wrote: |
I like Leaf & Rusher Active Serum which has 2% retinol and 2% Vit. C. EDS carries it and the Active Serum for Sensitive Skin (which is 1% each):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/original-tx-m_709_710.htm
2% retinol is the highest I have seen in an OTC retinol product but I'm welcome to be being corrected if there are others out there... |
I thought adequate strength Retin-A and/or retinols should only be applied at night (say, before bed time) and not at the start of the day? Daytime, sunscreen; night time, retinoids.
Leaf & Rusher instructions recommend getting the usage of their retinol/Vit. C serum up to twice a day, morning and night - that makes no sense to me. Anyone? |
I agree - but maybe they recommend morning use as well because retinol is not as strong as Retin-A. |
I also agree. They may be recommending twice a day for people to see results faster. Retinol is really much weaker than Retin-A. |
I think that using a 2 % strength retinol product twice a day is far too much for most people's skin. Most manufacturers of retinol products recommend applying a 0.5 % or 1 % retinol product once a day (PM).
Actually I suspect that Leaf & Rusher Active Serum does not contain such a strong concentration. Pure retinol is not listed on the ingredients list, but so is Retinoxytrimethylsilane.
My guess is that this is a weaker derivative of retinol (please weigh in, anyone who might know something about this agent). I think this example illustrates the importance of reading ingredients lists before choosing a product. Personally I would prefer a product with pure retinol.
Leaf & Rusher Active serum
Ingredients:
Cyclopentisiloxane, Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Isodecane, Dimethicone Crosspolymer-3, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Dimethicone, Glycine Soja (soybean oil), Retinoxytrimethylsilane, Palmitate, Bisabolol
http://www.skinstore.com/p-3482-leaf-and-rusher-active-serum.aspx |
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Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:07 pm |
This is really helpful. I only knew about Neutrogena and ROC.
Any tradeoff between the brands mentioned above?
Say, good for oily skin with acne?
I find Avene products very thick. |
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