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Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:09 pm  |
I have recently been reading some info on the link between acne and dairy (I was specifically looking into cystic acne but it also appears to be acne in general).
Has anyone tried cutting milk products out of their diet and has it made any difference to their skin? |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:17 pm |
That's interesting. Is it related to the hormones? I've never heard of this, but I don't think I could cut out dairy. I love dairy, lol.
When you do, would you have to take a Calcium supplement? |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:27 pm |
There was a study published in 2005 about the link between the hormones present in most dairy products and acne.
http://www.acnehelp.org.uk/dairy.htm
If acne is a concern - then maybe you could do a dairy-free trial run to see if that helps your condition. Hormones in dairy products are being recognized as the cause of many illnesses/conditions because they introduce unnatural levels of hormones in the body. I think you're very wise to consider their impact on you.
If you do stop dairy, though - just remember to supplement your calcium intake. |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:58 pm |
| YES! Me! When I cut dairy out of my diet, my skin got better and better. |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:02 pm |
Really? Wow it's disturbing actually, to think what they're putting in our food. I suppose you can buy hormone free milk?
I need to buy that if it's out there. I bet it would help my son's ezcema. Being that he's 4 I'm not ready to cut out dairy until I talk to the doctor next month. He'll be tested for food allergens then.
Seriously, I wish they would outlaw this crap. |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:11 pm |
Great article - thanks taobunny. The last thing I need is extra hormones!
Fox, I am so glad to hear from someone this worked for! I am going to give this a try and will read the links you put up too.
Do you know of a nice tasting milk alternative? I can't stand the taste of soy milk  |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:12 pm |
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| I suppose you can buy hormone free milk? |
Hi Sahmisme - technically, milk has hormones in it naturally. But you can buy milk that is produced from cows not injected with rBGH (recombinant bovine growth hormone).
Here's a link to processors who offer rBGH free milk:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/rBGH/rbghlist.cfm
Hope this helps! |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:17 pm |
| sahmisme wrote: |
Really? Wow it's disturbing actually, to think what they're putting in our food. I suppose you can buy hormone free milk?
I need to buy that if it's out there. I bet it would help my son's ezcema. Being that he's 4 I'm not ready to cut out dairy until I talk to the doctor next month. He'll be tested for food allergens then.
Seriously, I wish they would outlaw this crap. |
Actually, I *think* the hormone issue is because the cow has pregnancy and birth hormones in her system - given that we milk them for human consumption when really the milk is technically for her calves.
I believe there is also a digestion issue with milk as it not designed to be digested by humans which may also cause eczema etc - not sure if it links to acne there as well either or if that is the hormones only.
I have known quite a lot of this for a while but never took the plunge and cut it out - will let you all know how I go... |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:20 pm |
| sahmisme wrote: |
| Really? Wow it's disturbing actually, to think what they're putting in our food. I suppose you can buy hormone free milk? |
Well... it really depends on what you mean by "hormone free milk." Milk is teaming with hormones because it's, well, milk. You will never be able to get hormone free dairy unless you do something drastic to it.
Most people don't realise that in order for a cow - like any mammal - to produce milk she must first give birth to a baby. I don't produce milk randomly as a human female, and neither do cows.
All cows - all cows, organic, free-range and factory farmed - are manually impregnated for this purpose. When the baby is born hormones flood the mothers body and flow into her milk. The hormones help her babies grow and develop until they can survive without.
Because producers want to produce as much milk as possible, the cow (or goat or sheep) is impregnated again a few weeks after birth - while she is being milked. This, again, creates yet more hormones as this new calf grows inside her.
Sadly, this is also where the veal industry comes from - they are the "by-product" of the dairy industry.
My point is even if the farmers don't give the cow (or sheep or goat) hormones in the form of pills, she is producing incredible amounts of them anyway in order to produce milk.
So there really isn't any way to get hormone free milk  |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:23 pm |
| taobunny wrote: |
Hi Sahmisme - technically, milk has hormones in it naturally. But you can buy milk that is produced from cows not injected with rBGH (recombinant bovine growth hormone).
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That is just horrible too - just to get a greater supply of milk I guess, but those hormones have to go somewhere and that is straight into our milk and therefore ultimately into our bodies |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:25 pm |
| sal-star wrote: |
Fox, I am so glad to hear from someone this worked for! I am going to give this a try and will read the links you put up too.
Do you know of a nice tasting milk alternative? I can't stand the taste of soy milk |
I sure do! First of all, there are hundreds of brands of soy milks out there and each of of them tastes slightly different. Maybe you haven't found "you" brand yet?
Other than that, I like rice milk. The brand I use is Rice Dream but I'm sure there are others out there if you can't find it. There's almond milk, oat milk and even quinoa milk. (Quinoa used to be hot superfood a few years back.)
You just have to shop around and experiment. Dairy is an acquired taste - you've had it your whole life - so it might simply be a case of getting used to a new taste.
It's more than possible though, once you've set your mind to it 
EDIT: After posting the links to the Compassionate Cooks and Peaceful Prairie websites, I remembered about these food blogs. They're my absolute favorite food blogs; Just check out those pictures!
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/
http://veganyumyum.com/ |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:28 pm |
I do believe that dairy is just bad for us in general, and absolutely there's a link between dairy and acne. When I get more dairy than usual, it definitely shows on my face. Oh, if only cheese wasn't so delicious...  |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:35 pm |
| sal-star wrote: |
| taobunny wrote: |
Hi Sahmisme - technically, milk has hormones in it naturally. But you can buy milk that is produced from cows not injected with rBGH (recombinant bovine growth hormone).
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That is just horrible too - just to get a greater supply of milk I guess, but those hormones have to go somewhere and that is straight into our milk and therefore ultimately into our bodies |
Yeah... although I dropped this from my diet originally for health reasons, when I realised the moral implications of dairy I was so relieved not to be a part of it.
I don't believe in "preaching" but I also don't believe in snuffling out information like this by keeping it to myself. I truly believe someone will want to know, and there are few places that are open about it.
So, I'll say one last thing: these websites are absolutely amazing in showing these issues. The first one, a podcast, I especially like. It's clear a lot of work goes into making a researching the episodes. I've learnt so much from them. Colleen, the podcaster, is very welcoming and articulate. I wish I could be more like her!
http://feeds.feedburner.com/VegetarianFoodForThought
http://www.peacefulprairie.org/
Back to the topic |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:01 pm |
| Fox wrote: |
Yeah... although I dropped this from my diet originally for health reasons, when I realised the moral implications of dairy I was so relieved not to be a part of it.
I don't believe in "preaching" but I also don't believe in snuffling out information like this by keeping it to myself. I truly believe someone will want to know, and there are few places that are open about it.
So, I'll say one last thing: these websites are absolutely amazing in showing these issues. The first one, a podcast, I especially like. It's clear a lot of work goes into making a researching the episodes. I've learnt so much from them. Colleen, the podcaster, is very welcoming and articulate. I wish I could be more like her!
http://feeds.feedburner.com/VegetarianFoodForThought
http://www.peacefulprairie.org/
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I just listened to one of the pod casts - Colleen speaks very well and I found it fascinating! I will definitely listen to more of them.
Have you read Skinny Bitch? I read this 4-5 months ago and adopted a meat-free diet - though I do still eat seafood, but at the time the idea of cutting milk products was too much for me! |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:23 pm |
I've been milk free for over two years now. I still have cheese once in awhile, so, I am not "dairy free," but, I have switched to alternative "milks" for coffee and icecream.
Funny thing is... I felt a wave of nostalgia hit with the Pumpkin Spice Lattes at Starbucks, when meeting a friend to chat. I got a venti and the next day or so, I had terrible acne starting to form all over my face 
I personally can't stand most of the non-dairy milks and ice creams out there... and *loathe* the Rice Dream ones.
However, Good Karma makes a fantastic rice milk and icecream. The carrot cake icecream is AMAZING! |
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:56 pm |
| Agave wrote: |
I've been milk free for over two years now. I still have cheese once in awhile, so, I am not "dairy free," but, I have switched to alternative "milks" for coffee and icecream.
Funny thing is... I felt a wave of nostalgia hit with the Pumpkin Spice Lattes at Starbucks, when meeting a friend to chat. I got a venti and the next day or so, I had terrible acne starting to form all over my face
I personally can't stand most of the non-dairy milks and ice creams out there... and *loathe* the Rice Dream ones.
However, Good Karma makes a fantastic rice milk and icecream. The carrot cake icecream is AMAZING! |
Giving up cheese will be hard - there is just NO substitute for cheese!! lol
wow - what a reaction to that latte you had Agave! I love my lattes too, but I also LOVE good clear skin so that is going to be good motivation for me  |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:20 am |
| Fox wrote: |
EDIT: After posting the links to the Compassionate Cooks and Peaceful Prairie websites, I remembered about these food blogs. They're my absolute favorite food blogs; Just check out those pictures!
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/
http://veganyumyum.com/ |
Those sites are awesome - thanks Fox - you are making me hungry!!!!!  |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:51 am |
I was checking out the food lists for good sources of calcium, and those look like the kinds of foods that 4 year olds run from. 
Once I talk to my doctor, if I have to do something like this, I'll have to come up with some creative ways to hide things in his food, lol! |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:29 pm |
| I have cut dairy completly from my diet and I only buy organic, drug free meats and my skin hasn't got better at all. It is actually worse now with cystic zits that are scarring so I have resorted to Accutane and my skin is better after just 1 week. |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:59 pm |
| sahmisme wrote: |
I was checking out the food lists for good sources of calcium, and those look like the kinds of foods that 4 year olds run from.
Once I talk to my doctor, if I have to do something like this, I'll have to come up with some creative ways to hide things in his food, lol! |
Oh I know what that is like!!! They always like the things that they shouldn't be eating...it certainly puts your cooking and creative skills to the test. |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:02 pm |
| bugaboo wrote: |
| I have cut dairy completly from my diet and I only buy organic, drug free meats and my skin hasn't got better at all. It is actually worse now with cystic zits that are scarring so I have resorted to Accutane and my skin is better after just 1 week. |
Hi bugaboo,
How long had you cut the dairy from your diet for? I had heard it can take quite a long time to completely leave your system. My child used to get earaches as a toddler and my Doctor told me it is nearly always dairy that is the cause - he is the one who said it can take a while to leave your system.
Of course maybe dairy isn't the answer for everyone too. |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:16 pm |
| I has been about 9 months now, I discovered that I am completely allergic to it, not lactose tolerant but Allergic so I had no choice unless I wanted to continue with the intestinal problems. I also can't have eggs and soy. |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:03 pm |
| Dairy breaks me out. I've been substituting it with almond milk and rice milk. |
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:28 pm |
| wow,thanks for the post,i think i should cut out dairy |
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