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Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:48 pm |
I thought that anything we apply to our hair is just a cosmetic fix. Our hair is, in fact, dead once it comes through the skin - and it is physically impossible to regenerate something that is dead. We can, of course, try to nourish the scalp and feed the hair that is yet to appear. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:11 pm |
Keliu wrote: |
I thought that anything we apply to our hair is just a cosmetic fix. Our hair is, in fact, dead once it comes through the skin - and it is physically impossible to regenerate something that is dead. We can, of course, try to nourish the scalp and feed the hair that is yet to appear. |
I think you're right Keliu. It's probably more about scalp and follicle health in order to have healthy looking hair and of course gentle products along with a good diet. |
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Sasha T.
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:44 pm |
Hi Brierrose,
That's where its a little deceiving, you would think with the name moroccan oil your receiving an exotic treatment but actually if you look at the ingredient list that Keliu posted on Dec 13th you'll see that it is argan oil that they use which is a great nourishing oil but in this case it is the 6th ingredient on the list. The first 3 main ingredients are silicone's which are used to coat the hair and give it that smooth silky feeling. In order to receive any benefit from natural ingredients they need to penetrate the cuticle and deposit moisture to the cortex. It's very unlikely that there is any benefit from that ingredient, I'm sure its used more for the branding of the product. With that being said remember this product is a styling aid not a treatment. For anyone looking to repair damaged hair there are 3 key things you need to know, first it's important to properly cleanse the hair and remove any product build-up, second the scalp needs to be nourished to stimulate healthy hair growth and most importantly you need to rehydrate the hair. Yes, Keliu that is true "you can't regenerate something that is dead", but we do need to replenish the moisture which is a very important part of the hair structure. The hair shaft is much like a tree trunk, all the moisture is in the center and the bark of the tree is what protects the tree from becoming moisture deprived. Once a tree becomes moisture deprived it's no longer flexible and it becomes dry, brittle and easily breaks. This is exactly what happens to our hair.Women that have dull, dry or lifeless hair are usually lacking moisture due to styling, chemical services and product build-up. This is why some people have such a hard time growing their hair out. It's important to look for natural oils that will penetrate and protect the outer layer. I'm not talking olive oil,caster oil or mineral oils again anyone that tells you that this will condition your hair is mistaken. These oils merely coat the outer layer of the hair and give a temporary fix. I'm talking about oils like Marula oil, Macadamia nut oil, Baobab oil, more of the pure exotic oils that have a small molecular structure and are loaded with nourishment and moisturizing properties. Thank you for the question,I enjoy sharing what I know about repairing and maintaining a healthy head of hair.
Ingredients in MoroccanOil:
Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Butylphenyl, MethylPropional, Argania Spinoza Kernal Oil (Aragan Oil), Linseed (Linum Usitatissimum) Extract, Fragrance Supplement, D&C Yellow-11, D&C Red-17, Coumarin, Benzyl Benzoate, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone |
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:39 am |
Hallo SashaT, welcome to EDS!
I concur with the majority of your post. While nutrition and a healthy scalp have their role, this dead matter we call hair most certainly benefits from moisture and other TREATMENTs.
I've compared Sally's less expensive version of Moroccan oil with the much more expensive Moroccan oil and found no difference, really. I can also agree that with argan oil so low on the ingredient list, there probably isn't that much there to actually treat the hair... but the silicones do have a smoothing effect, which in turn produces shine.
The beginning of the year I ordered 100% pure Argan Oil from http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/ and have been using it for the last couple of weeks, setting aside the Moroccan Oil and Sally's version to see how pure argan oil will work.
I place a quarter size amount of jojoba oil and argan oil right after rinsing conditioner and wringing out excess water...Followed up by dime size amount of Lamas Soy Balancing conditioner, then combing through with a wide-toothed comb as a leave in treatment. Put my hair up in a microfiber towel for a few minutes, scrunch and air dry. Hair is left very soft, curls are well defined and it's as shiny as curly hair can be. In short, it's my take that Moroccan oil is overhyped but argan oil is not... Rather than spend so much $$ on Moroccan oil, I'm planning to stick to the real deal for the foreseeable future.
I've never had a problem with 'cones for my hair, but found myself having to shampoo twice on a bi-monthly basis to remove product buildup. So far, have not been missing the lack of 'cones since introducing straight argan oil into my routine Not sure what the long term results will be at this time, will post an update to this thread in a couple of months.
Disclaimer... I have abundant, curly, and dry hair... it's possible the amount of oils I use wouldn't work for those with oily hair/scalp or less tresses. |
_________________ 44 – combo/oily skin with a tendency towards clogged pores. Thanks to EDS, tweaked my skincare routine and normalized skin… no more breakouts. PSF, silk powder, Janson Beckett, Cellbone, NIA24 are staples. |
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:13 am |
I have read...wish I could remember source...that coconut oil is the only one that can actually penetrate the hair cuticle. I've tried organic coconut that I bought at GNC as a nutritional supplement on my hair as a pre shampoo treatment and I do think there is a benefit in the moisture /shine factor.
I hate to get too off topic since this is about morrocan oil but in terms of adding moisture to dry, damaged, chemical treated hair(I have all the above) I've been using Coppola Keratin Complex Infusion Therapy. It is extremely expensive but worth every penny IMHO.
I just got my morrocan oil about a week ago and have only used it twice, so will reserve judgement! |
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:02 pm |
athena123 wrote: |
Disclaimer... I have abundant, curly, and dry hair... it's possible the amount of oils I use wouldn't work for those with oily hair/scalp or less tresses. |
That's my problem - I have baby fine hair, cut in an urchin cut, so there's not much of it. If I put straight Argan Oil on, my hair just turns into an oil slick. I have a hard time finding something that is moisurising but doesn't leave my hair greasy and limp. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:43 pm |
Thanks for clarifying. I was wondering the other day if Morracan oil would benefit my hair in the long term. |
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Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:20 pm |
I use the real argan oil on my hair. I'm moroccan so I get it pure from morocco (the one you can also eat. tastes good buy the way)
It penetrates the hair quickly and makes it feel soft and shiny. I'm not crazy abouth the odor it has but I think it's just me since I can't stand any oil odor on my hair |
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Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:01 am |
I have only read the last page here and I think I may have posted a rave on Moroccan oil several months ago. As time have passed, I can't rave about this brand no more, but I would still suggest it to anyone who ask.
For a few years, I was using a mixture of oils that included macadamia oil and the brand is from France, ordered from an American retailer. It was very expensive and after I realized that the Moroccan oil was the "the best hair restorer" I went back to this France brand and started to search for just pure macadamia oil. It was difficult to find one more reasonable price at any health food store and it was not one they normally sold at the store and had to do a "special" order. A friend told me of http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.ca/ and I was very impressed with their prices and quickly placed my order. Now, I use it almost on daily basis and I find it does a better job then the Morrocan oil, but only time will tell. I never had any expectations that any oil would cure any split ends. |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:43 am |
I have fallen completely, madly, head-over-heels in love with Moroccan Oil. Unfortunately, I my pocketbook hasn't. I know some women are better at product usage and management than I am, because I really dump this stuff on and a bottle only lasts me two months or so. I also have to wash my hair everyday (not because of MO, just because my hair is ... unruly and angry), so that really bites the big one on multiple levels.
I'm so excited to hear that the Sally's version is comparable. I can't wait to run out and get a bottle!
This product has Changed My Hair AND, frankly, my life in a way too (time needed to do hair before discovering MO: 45 minutes. MINIMUM. Time after MO: 10-15. Sometimes even NONE. I can schmear this stuff on my hair and head out the door shortly afterwards and NOT look like a homeless baglady. SUCCESS!) |
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:14 pm |
I wish I could return the bottle of Moroccan Oil I bought as I have found it to be absolutely useless. I should have looked at the ingredient list before I purchased it as it is full of silicons which are not healthy for the hair. Also, I am not sure why this is called Moroccan oil as it states on the bottle that it is made in Israel and Argan oil does not appear to be the main ingredient. |
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:25 pm |
update: Occurs to me that in my earlier comparison between Moroccan Oil with Sally's Argan Oil, I neglected to mention that I don't blow out my hair, nor do I iron it so if there is a difference in styling between these products, I can't comment on that other than both of them leave my hair shiny and smooth.
In the last couple months, I've used straight - organic argan oil as outlined in a prior post. Hair is soft and shiny but I do miss those silicones -- I plan to repurchase the less $$ version of Argan oil from Sally's Beauty supply and mix with pure argan oil to benefit from both. |
_________________ 44 – combo/oily skin with a tendency towards clogged pores. Thanks to EDS, tweaked my skincare routine and normalized skin… no more breakouts. PSF, silk powder, Janson Beckett, Cellbone, NIA24 are staples. |
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Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:21 am |
I was looking at lotioncrafters yesterday and I noticed they sell argan oil. It was like $9 for 1 oz. Next time I order I think I will order some for my hair. |
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Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:41 am |
Regis salons have a product in their Designline called Fiji Therapy Styling Oil. It contains argan and tamanu oils. Smells nice, works great and a very small amount goes a long way. |
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Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:43 pm |
I have been using a product by Issahra, called the Perfect Oil. It is 100% purified Argan Oil. I do not use it everyday but there is definitely something very soothing and restorative about this product. I have used it to smooth my hair on frizzy days and as a face moisturizer. I apply it to my hair and face perhaps once a week. |
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Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:04 pm |
I didn't read all of the pages, but incidently, had only stumbled upon this post AFTER I placed an order on EDS for Russell Organic's Argan Oil (I should've checked on the forums first...but whatever.. ).
A few weeks ago Cityline did a small segment on the brand Moroccan Oil and it seems touted it like as a miracle product...so of course, I had to try it.
After some research, Argan oil is Moroccan oil...its extracted from a trees in Morocco. Same benefits, of course. I'm anxious to receive my order just to try it out. |
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Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:44 pm |
Looking at the ingredients list, MO is like the biggest scam for the price. You'ld be better off mixing your own mix like the OCM to treat your hair. Silicone does make the hair really smooth but then it builds up and it's hard to remove. |
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Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:38 pm |
sakura wrote: |
Looking at the ingredients list, MO is like the biggest scam for the price. You'ld be better off mixing your own mix like the OCM to treat your hair. Silicone does make the hair really smooth but then it builds up and it's hard to remove. |
I mix my own oils for OCM and I also apply Argan Oil to my face. However, I find applying it to my hair makes it very greasy. The thing about MO is that it nourishes the hair but it doesn't leave it greasy at all. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:58 pm |
Its funny but even though the ingredients contain silicones, I still love the feeling of my hair after applying a couple of drops of Moroccan Oil |
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Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:38 am |
I love this product.. |
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Thu May 13, 2010 7:36 am |
For those of you who use straight argan oil, do you use it before shampooing or after? |
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Thu May 13, 2010 8:23 am |
oranges wrote: |
For those of you who use straight argan oil, do you use it before shampooing or after? |
I just apply it to the ends of my hair after I shampoo. |
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Fri May 14, 2010 8:10 am |
I have thin hair so I have to be careful with the products I apply because anything just flattens it, esp. if I put things on my ends that weigh my hair down
I am currently using Kerastase Oleo-Curl mist (I sometimes use the Oleo-curl cream)
Has any of the MO users used Kerastase Oleo-curl and if you have, how do you compare both products? |
_________________ 37, light brown hair, green eyes, very fair skin. Oily T zone, broken capillaries... Current regime: Tretinoin 0.05% every night, hydroquinone 4% twice per day, lachydran every other day, random moisturizers and sunscreen |
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:01 pm |
I love Moroccan Oil! My hair is very oily, however, I use Moroccan Oil on the ends and it prevents the splitting and makes them soft. |
_________________ Do your best and forget the rest! |
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:13 am |
loribar wrote: |
I have read...wish I could remember source...that coconut oil is the only one that can actually penetrate the hair cuticle. I've tried organic coconut that I bought at GNC as a nutritional supplement on my hair as a pre shampoo treatment and I do think there is a benefit in the moisture /shine factor.
I hate to get too off topic since this is about morrocan oil but in terms of adding moisture to dry, damaged, chemical treated hair(I have all the above) I've been using Coppola Keratin Complex Infusion Therapy. It is extremely expensive but worth every penny IMHO.
I just got my morrocan oil about a week ago and have only used it twice, so will reserve judgement! |
I'm supposed to be getting a sample of Morocan oil- so will see if it really does anything vs regular silicone serums.
I actually had a chemist tell me that oils for the hair are better if they are fractiaonated as that removes the wax part and the oil can be absorbed more easily.
I used to buy fractionated jojoba and also coconut oils and found they made my hair very soft.
The oils also stayed liquid at room temperature.
Too bad the chemists store closed
I keep on meaning to find another place to get these items.
If you are looking for a cheap oil for hair and body Yves rocher also has the Monoi line that is coconut and gardenia and smells really nice and is affordable too.
My hair type is always dry and curly and right now down my back,
my hair is naturally dry most likely due to some health issues,
but because i use hair creams and decent shampoo my hair is in good condition and shiny.
I almost never blow dry my hair, just because I am lazy about that,I just usually leave my hair curly (also have not colored my hair in 2+ years),but that might change as i want highlights soon. |
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