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Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:56 am      Reply with quote
Hi Lilith, as far as your first question is concerned, the answer is yes. I also followed Loulou's massage program and the result was surprising, especially under the eyes. I do not know how to say, but the feeling is that of skin redensification. Now when I pinch under my eyes my skin is much denser. Before it seemed to touch something inconsistent.

One year is the minimum time to see considerable results. An unexpected result was on my lips, at the end of December 2017 I noticed that they were swollen, I did not understand what was happening. Only later did I realize that they had fleshed out. I attribute this to the exercise the best (so-called?), the one where you pinch the sides of the lips and pull them up. The fact is that now I have my lips plumped. And i am very happyyy :

Sorry for my bad English Rolling Eyes

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Ciao Imma, Thank you so much for your feedback. Your results are so encouraging! I did feel the differency you describe at the undereye area within 2 weeks. Luckily I have no major issues there but I think the skin texture is getting better which can ony be good in the long run! Wanted to give it a year anyway - but a long way to go for me. Let's see what surprises are waiting for us.

What is your opinion of the Nuface? I had a look at i a couple of times but was never sure if it is a waste of money or a tool which would work?

I feel for my skin Vitamin C is excellent and I am experimenting with Vitamin A (but that is a long-term project as well). Was considering the derma roller but at the moment I need to have time and ease in my life so the ageless routine is working for me in that aspect as it takes so little time.

Grazie Mille!
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Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:11 am      Reply with quote
Lilith_10 wrote:
Ciao Imma, Thank you so much for your feedback. Your results are so encouraging! I did feel the differency you describe at the undereye area within 2 weeks. Luckily I have no major issues there but I think the skin texture is getting better which can ony be good in the long run! Wanted to give it a year anyway - but a long way to go for me. Let's see what surprises are waiting for us.

What is your opinion of the Nuface? I had a look at i a couple of times but was never sure if it is a waste of money or a tool which would work?

I feel for my skin Vitamin C is excellent and I am experimenting with Vitamin A (but that is a long-term project as well). Was considering the derma roller but at the moment I need to have time and ease in my life so the ageless routine is working for me in that aspect as it takes so little time.

Grazie Mille!
Lilith



Hi Lilith,
I've just finished the 8 weeks of the Nuface protocol so I can make a judgment. Nuface WORKS !!!
Obviously, as for everything in the field of anti aging, it is not about miracles. But I can say that the Nuface gave a nice help to the Ageless exercises.
The results are cumulative but you can not stop to do it. If you stop it, everything collapse Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
But it's the same with the exercises.
I do it every morning for about 12 minutes

I have been using for many many years Vit. C, Retin A and an endless series of other topicals and supplements but I can say, as far as my experience is concerned, that these things save your skin but not from the collapse Very Happy

I do not know how old you are, but i can say that topicals, alone, are useful until a certain age. With the arrival of menopause topicals did non save me from sagging. So I consider the exercises and also tools like Nuface necessary.

You're right about Ageless. Even I chose it because it requires so little time even if I do them at least 4 days a week and apply the strongest resistance possible. But it is still only 10 minutes per session.

Imma
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Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:32 am      Reply with quote
Ciao Imma! This is great - I was looking through all the tools (I am probably a bit overwild about all of it) but anything which easy, quick and protable. An acquaintance of mine swears by the dermawand but I always discliked the size of the tool and it seems to need me to set up everything for it. The NuFace and ZIIP are so handy, easy to store.

Now, my final question before I go into silence mode again - has the NuFace a setting for Acne or occasional break out - I do get few these days. But naturally, I will break out the day before a major event or meeting. The ZIIP said it has an effective setting - but it seems extremely expensive.

And yes, I agree. I never needed to do much about my skin - as it is naturally thick which is excellent when one gets older, I never smoked or drank much alcohol which I think plays a role as well. But I am about to encounter the great change - and I embrace it fully! I think it liberates my energy. Technically, I guess I have the first perimenopausal signs and learned that I can do a lot to support my body with minerals (magnesium, zinc) and a product which is Royal Gelee from Alsifemin (which is miracle for people with hot flashes). Anyhow, I am going of the scale here - I agree with you. In the last two years I noticed I have to take care of my physique to keep it in optimal condition and my skin - which is why I returned here.

Many thanks for you candid help!

Have a wonderful day.

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Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:23 am      Reply with quote
Lilith_10 wrote:
Ciao Imma! This is great - I was looking through all the tools (I am probably a bit overwild about all of it) but anything which easy, quick and protable. An acquaintance of mine swears by the dermawand but I always discliked the size of the tool and it seems to need me to set up everything for it. The NuFace and ZIIP are so handy, easy to store.

Now, my final question before I go into silence mode again - has the NuFace a setting for Acne or occasional break out - I do get few these days. But naturally, I will break out the day before a major event or meeting. The ZIIP said it has an effective setting - but it seems extremely expensive.

And yes, I agree. I never needed to do much about my skin - as it is naturally thick which is excellent when one gets older, I never smoked or drank much alcohol which I think plays a role as well. But I am about to encounter the great change - and I embrace it fully! I think it liberates my energy. Technically, I guess I have the first perimenopausal signs and learned that I can do a lot to support my body with minerals (magnesium, zinc) and a product which is Royal Gelee from Alsifemin (which is miracle for people with hot flashes). Anyhow, I am going of the scale here - I agree with you. In the last two years I noticed I have to take care of my physique to keep it in optimal condition and my skin - which is why I returned here.

Many thanks for you candid help!

Have a wonderful day.


Hi Lilith,
no, the Nuface has no program for acne. It has no program at all. You turn it on and start moving it on your face. The only thing that does is that every 5 seconds it sounds to warn you to move to another area. I do it with the planned movements for the Ziip.

Have a wonderful day you too, form me it will be a wonderful evening Smile
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Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:08 am      Reply with quote
Ciao Imma,

Thanks for the info as this is really important to me! I definitely would like something which tackle the occasional breakout. Very ridiculous when one is beyond their teens...

Great to know that microcurrents work though!

Very best wishes!
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Hi everyone,this is my answer to an email asking about the suitability of Ageless for men...

Hi mister X, and thanks for your message.

Yes, Ageless is absolutely suitable for men. It focuses on women because it makes a massive difference to how we age, while men generally have an easier time of it, but men age in exactly the same way, just less dramatically!

Because you’re blessed with more muscle mass than women you’re also likely to achieve faster results.

We really ought to mention the programme’s value to men in our blurb, thank you for highlighting where we need to be clearer, and I’ll post to this effect on the Essential Day spa message board.

Wishing you all the very best,
Louise 😊

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Hi everyone

I keep seeing mentions of advanced exercises that are not advertised on the Ageless website but available upon request. Does anyone here know of them or purchased them. Would love to know! I have the Ageless 10 and the massage video, also the book.

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Hi everyone

I keep seeing mentions of advanced exercises that are not advertised on the Ageless website but available upon request. Does anyone here know of them or purchased them. Would love to know! I have the Ageless 10 and the massage video, also the book.

Ricky

Hi Ricky and everybody,

The advanced programme does have different exercises because it supplements the Easy Nine/Ten programmes. It is advanced in the sense that it’s a bootcamp, high volume, high intensity programme. It gives fast results but it entails pronounced short term side effects, and we are not equipped to respond to everyone’s concerns, so I don’t sell it any more!

Also the normal programme will achieve the same results, just at a more steady pace. If yo you follow the regular programme you minimise downtime and enjoy your face throughout the process.

So I hope that answers the question. It would be hypocritical of me to hide the ‘really effective’ exercises.. it’s a question of speed versus ease of transition. I would go for the Easy Ten every time 😊

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Hello dear members of the Agelessifyoudare forum!
I am a greenhorn and so happy to be here;-) I have bought the program a week ago and have already started with the exercises. And I do feel my muscles while working on them, and also afterwards, hurray!!! So happy to be able to take things under my control.I´m 52 and have jowls, nl folds, under eye bags, Fine lines on the upper lip and a gaunty rectangular face - this almost reads like the beginning of a Monty Python sketch, hahaha.
I had started Flexeffect two weeks ago and did it for one week, but as I had written quite a few mails to FE and have not gotten ANY answer, I feel ignored and have lost the interest in it...on the other hand, this ignorance of the customer might have been a stroke of luck because Agelessifyoudare is sooo much shorter and therefore easier to perform daily for a lazy human being like me;-)
I have made photos, of course, from all possible angles (even one looking down - how scary, is THIS me???LOL). So I will keep you all informed about my progressions. Is there any place where we could exchange photos?
Thank you all for posting your detailed reports, I am looking forward to read them all:-)
Thank you Loulou for being present around here and helping out!
By the way, is there any possibility to become an Ageless trainer?
Have a lovely time:-)
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Hi Mona

Don’t feel ignored with the emails – they aren’t the best at answering them but the forum is usually quite helpful – although I haven’t been in quite a while, it was good in the beginning and there were trainers then who answered questions and posted diagrams explaining things. That in its own right was worth the money I paid – and Loli was lovely and couldn’t be more helpful. So I’d say if you had questions re Flexeffect to use their forum rather than email. For some reason, I guess they are busy but they don’t respond to emails much from what I can gather – which is a shame.

For me, I do a bit of everything, but have to say, I’m a lot older than most folk, but I loved the cheek build you get. However for my lower face which is really a problem area, it did little and I had to supplement other exercises for my lower face, so I’m sharing this just for your info. As you may find that your lower face needs other things. Just my take, I get the theory Loulou posts about the cheeks lifting everything up and out – but for lowerface mine needed something else.

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Dear Tessie,
thank you for answering me so quickly! I was happy to read your message. I will try just Ageless for a certain time to see where it helps me, and if I will need more support at some point I can choose some FE exercises now that I have the program, too.
A few years ago I had stumbled upon Carole Maggio's Facercise and had done it during a few weeks, but I didn't notice anything...and now, when looking at her fotos I saw that she has really changed, I wouldn't have recognised her compared to her older pictures. Also bought Eva Fraser's program but could not get friends with it. So now I really hope to have found the Holy Grail with Ageless;-)
Take care!
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Hi Mona

Absolutely, Ageless is a good program and perhaps its an age thing as I didn't try it till I was in my 60's.
It really built up my cheeks but did nothing for my lower face despite trying it for a while, and friends had similar results.

I tried Maggios Facercise after Aprile spoke so highly of them but could never get a grip on them or the results that so many posted about. Also the widening and thinning exercises just seemed to be imaginery and I never saw any change or any documented evidence that they actually did this. Not eve in the photos which I thought were really bad and questionable. However I also noticed that even though Aprile was a fan of them, she quickly switched when the Ageless spray and other devices were spoken about and so don't know if she still does them or not but they obviously weren't enough for her.

Edited to add the "Ageless Spray" isn't part of the Ageless if You Dare exercises. Its something else that was around and there was a huge thread on it somewhere but it just sounded a bit too strange for my liking and the price tag was very steep.

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Hi Tessie,

did you finally have success lifting the lower part of the face with another method? For how long are you doing Ageless now?
I read somewhere that sometimes results can show after a few years of training...so never give up! One has to be very confident though to exercise without seing results, going on just by trusting the method and the promised fruit;-)
I did not like the way Carole Maggio physically changed over the years, I would not like myself to change personality through exercising the face, even if it would leave me wrinkle free.
So I will go on doing Ageless on a daily basis during 5 days a week and the massage on the weekends (if I can hold back from exercising).

I wish you, Tessie, and all the others on this forum a happy weekend, full of joy and laughter:-)

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I don’t follow any one program singlularly but do bits of each program that work for my own face. I think that’s the thing the more you learn and do, the more you see what works and what doesn’t and after all that’s how a lot of programs are created. I like to do bits from a lot of different programs. How long have I been doing Ageless – not sure but I jumped on it when it first showed up if that’s any indicators, but I’ve also done other programs too. For me, I do bits that I enjoy that work particular features so I do some facial magic, some shape your face, some FlexEffect, some Ageless, some Face Aerobics etc. I also do other things like the Yumana Face ball etc. A large part of my routine does seem to be the FlexEffect program because I like that it caters for bone and skin too and not a lot of other programs seem to do that and well I’m in my 70’s now and so I need all the help I can get.

For me, I saw her on tv and there was something odd looking about her. I know Aprile was a huge fan and sang her praises and said she was a trained aesthetician and took hormones etc which is why she aged well, but the clip I saw on tv really put me off.

I know what you mean re holding back, but I learned the hard way and trust me – you want to have some rest time. Nowadays I rarely need to do 5x a week but then I’ve done this for many years. I do it every 2 or 3 days because that’s all my face needs. I really like the Yumana ball and the changes that does and that works bone too and my old face needs it. I also love the No Lipo Lipo method and the Ageless Body routine too – they are quick and easy for me, which is great as I’m impatient and if it takes too long I get bored and forget.
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Thanks Tessie:-)
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Just wanted to share my positive thoughts on this lovely Sunday morning (I'm in Berlin/Germany, and we had a looong rainy and cloudy autumn and winter, and now it's over, yeahhhh!!!).
It's been roughly a week that I have started with Ageless, and I can see results right after having performed the exercises - later, with the kind help of gravity everything comes back to normal which is logical.
But I can feel the tightness under the saggy flesh, so it gives me hope, Joanna;-)
After the exercises my under eye bags are smaller, too. Of course it will take a long time and patience to see long lasting results but if I don't do any exercises at all it won't get better anyway! The lymph accumulating under the eyes during the night might also be some food intolerance. If I cannot get rid of the dear little bags with exercise over time, I will try to give up dairy and see if that's a part of the problem. But for now I love cheese too much and hope I will be able to keep indulging in it for the rest of my looong ageless life;-)

I wish you all a lovely day and the very best results with the wonderful Ageless method! Thanks again for this lifechanging gift, Loulou!!!

Mona
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is it possible to do the exercises while having fillers and botox?
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In Traditional Chinese Medicine the liquid accumulation under the eyes can also reveal a deficiency of the kidney energy. That explains why little children sometimes have eye bags, too, in their case it surely isn‘t the sagging muscle. It surely is helpful in this case to see a TCM practitioner, it can be helpful for the success of facial exercise in this face area:-)

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I remember one of the trainers or moderators on the old Ageless forum discussed this one time.
I think she said that you could do them but that they would dissipate the fillers quicker as a result but her thinking was that the muscle you created would fill in the area where the fillers were anway.
I dont know if she is still around but Loulou can probably answer your question moreso.


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What about NLs? These used to be the bain of my life but have gone completely now (I'm pleased to say).
I'm curious as to what these symbolise?
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In Traditional Chinese Medicine the liquid accumulation under the eyes can also reveal a deficiency of the kidney energy. That explains why little children sometimes have eye bags, too, in their case it surely isn‘t the sagging muscle. It surely is helpful in this case to see a TCM practitioner, it can be helpful for the success of facial exercise in this face area:-)
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NL - Nasalobial lines normally indicate according to TCM that the stomache and spleen need support. How did you get rid of them?

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Hi Tessie,
the NL folds can be indicators of a weak digestive function; in this situation it is best to avoid too many raw and cold foods (for example huge salads, too many smoothies, foods that come out of the fridge, ice cream Sad and cold/iced drinks. Prefer light meals, warm and comforting and delicious, made with good ingredients and love:-)

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Thats interesting as it doesn't really fit for me as I never had digestive problems. I never really intended to get rid of the NLs as I thought I would always have them, but it was the cross stretching flex effect technique that definitely got rid of them for me.
I had been exercising for 10 plus years and they didn't bother me, as my mother had them and her mother before her so I just kind of expected to get them.
It was when the 3rd edition first came out and Kassy inspired me to do it moreso and I did it in the beginning daily as i liked the feeling and my dear hubby made a comment one morning about them being less and I ran to the mirror and looked and he was right.
They literally went within a few weeks.
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Hi Tessie,
the NL folds can be indicators of a weak digestive function; in this situation it is best to avoid too many raw and cold foods (for example huge salads, too many smoothies, foods that come out of the fridge, ice cream Sad and cold/iced drinks. Prefer light meals, warm and comforting and delicious, made with good ingredients and love:-)
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Hi Tessie,

I am happy you got rid of your NL folds:-)
I have thad hem since I was in my twenties, they just got deeper with time.
What precise exercise did you do daily until they disappeared?

I have a question concerning the neck exercise, when you pull on the skin and contract the platysma muscle: what do you precisely do to contract it? I am pressing the tongue to the palate and I'm not sure if it is the right movement, but it's the only thing that works for me.

And doing the upper eye lid lifting is not easy either, I can't hold the upper lid because it is very tight on the eye ball, instead I can get hold of the quite flabby skin right above, but I'm not so sure it's effective this way.

Any thought about what I could do to get better?

Have a happy Sunday:-)

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