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Ageless if you Dare - Loulou's Facial Exercises

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Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:30 pm      Reply with quote
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Help! In Day 1 exercise, Exercise 4 called Laughter instructs readers to grasp the face in the exact same position as in the previous Exercise 3 called Happy Smile.

BUT if you look at the diagrams of these 2 exercises, you can see the place for thumb and fingers is different in the two, and also these two exercises are working different muscles. I believe the "Laughter" is supposed to work the muscle RISORIUS which is lower on the cheek than Z MAJOR which is the targeted muscle for "Happy Smile."

Is my interpretation correct? Anyone else confused about this? I ignored the instruction and have been following the diagram instead.


Bira I don't know the answer to this either, but funnily enough I ignored the diagram and have been following the instruction. Question


Mishey, thanks for answering. Sounds like you've been doing it correctly. Congratulations!
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I have LouLous, Maggios, and Flex Effect. Love them all...but LouLou's is the one I can stick
with and I really like the results...(altho', I've had to lay off the cheek excercises because my youthful chipmunk cheeks I so hated are perking back into place. Confused

OK...stopping the rambling and getting to the point. Very Happy The way LouLou uses taking the muscle
between the fingers and pulling...I was wondering if you could take the bottom furrow exercise from Flex Effect and pull out those furrow muscles while frowning.

I was just wondering, if that would be a good exercise for furrows applying LouLou's principles. Lord knows I don't want those
downers going any further south than they
have already traveled.


Hi Kj68
i've adopted this w/ a couple of deb's excercises (mainly cheek--wink and wink adv. z.major)--i think you could use it for furrow, but i think the point of lou's workout is that she works all the muscles that lift the face (or that are used to smile)and ultimately that will lift everything.... obviously the frowners are used to...well..frown. Still, i'm struggling w/ this as some days my m/l's look great and others (today Shock - i'm like, is that ME) not great. where i've been hit hardest from not doing frowner excercises is my neck -- the thing is, i'm not ready to sacrifice my jaw for my neck just yet....HTH
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Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:53 am      Reply with quote
kj68 - try it out and see, its worth experimenting with and I can't see any reason for it not to have a result! Good thinking Very Happy

kj68 wrote:
The way LouLou uses taking the muscle
between the fingers and pulling...I was wondering if you could take the bottom furrow exercise from Flex Effect and pull out those furrow muscles while frowning.

I was just wondering, if that would be a good exercise for furrows applying LouLou's principles. Lord knows I don't want those
downers going any further south than they
have already traveled.

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Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:21 am      Reply with quote
Hi all!

Just a little caveat...I haven't fully read this thread...I do have some questions...I've never done facial exercise before and I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Does anyone know how to get in touch with Lulu? I've e-mailed her but received no response. I've purchased the book without speaking to her first. If I can't get in touch with her is there anyone here that can help? Thanks!
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Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:32 am      Reply with quote
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Hi all!

Just a little caveat...I haven't fully read this thread...I do have some questions...I've never done facial exercise before and I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Does anyone know how to get in touch with Lulu? I've e-mailed her but received no response. I've purchased the book without speaking to her first. If I can't get in touch with her is there anyone here that can help? Thanks!


Try posting your questions on Ageless Web Site:

http://louiseannette.proboards.com/index.cgi

Good luck! Let me know how that goes.

I have not tried posting there and haven't tried emailing her. I also purchased the book without email her first. What questions do you have? I am not the expert by any means, but I will try my best to help.
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Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:07 pm      Reply with quote
Bira wrote:
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Hi all!

Just a little caveat...I haven't fully read this thread...I do have some questions...I've never done facial exercise before and I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Does anyone know how to get in touch with Lulu? I've e-mailed her but received no response. I've purchased the book without speaking to her first. If I can't get in touch with her is there anyone here that can help? Thanks!


Try posting your questions on Ageless Web Site:

http://louiseannette.proboards.com/index.cgi

Good luck! Let me know how that goes.

I have not tried posting there and haven't tried emailing her. I also purchased the book without email her first. What questions do you have? I am not the expert by any means, but I will try my best to help.


Thank you for this post and the link! I just looked at the videos and have a better idea on how these exercises are to be done!
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Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:26 pm      Reply with quote
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Bira wrote:
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Hi all!

Just a little caveat...I haven't fully read this thread...I do have some questions...I've never done facial exercise before and I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Does anyone know how to get in touch with Lulu? I've e-mailed her but received no response. I've purchased the book without speaking to her first. If I can't get in touch with her is there anyone here that can help? Thanks!


Try posting your questions on Ageless Web Site:

http://louiseannette.proboards.com/index.cgi

Good luck! Let me know how that goes.

I have not tried posting there and haven't tried emailing her. I also purchased the book without email her first. What questions do you have? I am not the expert by any means, but I will try my best to help.


Thank you for this post and the link! I just looked at the videos and have a better idea on how these exercises are to be done!


Oh good you found the videos. I looked at them before but I'm too lazy to look at them when I want to exercise. I always just read the instructions off the book.
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Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:56 am      Reply with quote
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Thank you for this post and the link! I just looked at the videos and have a better idea on how these exercises are to be done!


Oh good you found the videos. I looked at them before but I'm too lazy to look at them when I want to exercise. I always just read the instructions off the book.


Yes, I did! Looking at the videos and reading the instructions definately did give me a better idea as to how to work them. Thank You!
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Yes, I did! Looking at the videos and reading the instructions definately did give me a better idea as to how to work them. Thank You!


You're quite welcome. I just joined the Ageless board and posted a question for LouLou. I have many more questions but I don't want to overwhelm her. I want to see if I will get a response with that question first.
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When I woke up yesterday & looked at the mirror; I told myself :"Oh, My God".

My NL folds was VERY pronounced & got deeper; I'd even feel it with my fingers.

I have been doing Ageless since early March and doing exercise 1-6 + Wish & Lift Eyelids every other day, no other exercises on the other day; just day off.

Neither have I been under stress nor changed skin care products since March.

I have stopped doing this exercise.

The purpose of my post is not to discourage anyone who would like to do/keep on doing Ageless; I just wanted to share my experience with you.

Maybe I have pinched the flesh too hard or grasped the wrong part of my face.

Woes to me...
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Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:27 am      Reply with quote
Hi Summer2004, I would suspect your problem is termporary. Take a few days off and sometimes you will see. Maybe you just need a break and then resume again. I've gone through my ugly days and then I see the real results - the good stuff and I know it's working. Honestly I've been reading facial threads for a few years - from all over - and the reports are positive. I can't say I recall every hearing of long-term problems ever. Mostly the short-term tired look or an extra wrinkle that popped up due to the lifting process. But these resolve as the improvements continue.
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Hi summer2004, I remembered that Loulou has mentioned that you may find that stopping the "Crush" exercise will help if your N/L lines become really pronounced. The N/L lines will go away quickly as it is only a temporary imprint with the "crush" exercise....

Just as sistersweets mentioned, taking a few days off which will allow you to assess how you look when the side-effects of the exercises aren't masking your results.

If you decide to do the exercises again, perhaps you can doing "crush" as the occasional exercise rather than doing it every other day.
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Hi Sister Sweets & Moonstone,

Thx for your reply!

I will definitely keep you sis posted about my skin & look.
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Summer, I have been doing Ageless about once a week, not by designed but time seems to slip by, before I knew it, it would be midnight and arrrghh..

Anyway even with the once a week deal, I still get the deep nose/mouth lines after the exercises.

This week I got really good and actually got the exercises in twice a week as doctor prescribed.

I have not got discouraged with the deeper lines because I read other reports that these are temporary problems. I hope it's true.

Are you going to resume?
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summer2004 wrote:
When I woke up yesterday & looked at the mirror; I told myself :"Oh, My God".

My NL folds was VERY pronounced & got deeper; I'd even feel it with my fingers.

I have been doing Ageless since early March and doing exercise 1-6 + Wish & Lift Eyelids every other day, no other exercises on the other day; just day off.

Neither have I been under stress nor changed skin care products since March.

I have stopped doing this exercise.

The purpose of my post is not to discourage anyone who would like to do/keep on doing Ageless; I just wanted to share my experience with you.

Maybe I have pinched the flesh too hard or grasped the wrong part of my face.

Woes to me...


Haha!

No, not "woes" !!
You are just getting a feel for how your face responds! If you back off certain exercises and modify others, (in other words make the program your own) you will see the results you want! It is easily undone! You will go thru stages when you look better/worse. We all do

It took me a while to get a feel for which muscles to initiate to do each exercise. Just do the best you can til you finally know it too.

Good luck!

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Hi Bira & Fawnie,

I have monitored my NL fold for a few days after stopping doing Ageless.

Relieved finally......the fold has returned to the level before doing the exercises.

I will resume doing Ageless (but not Crush) tomorrow & see how it's going!

In the past few days, I did a search about facial exercises, most comments were positive; some people, like what I commented, did have a period of "looking worse" but it was just temporary!

Sis, thx for all of your concern.
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Hi Bira & Fawnie,

I have monitored my NL fold for a few days after stopping doing Ageless.

Relieved finally......the fold has returned to the level before doing the exercises.

I will resume doing Ageless (but not Crush) tomorrow & see how it's going!

In the past few days, I did a search about facial exercises, most comments were positive; some people, like what I commented, did have a period of "looking worse" but it was just temporary!

Sis, thx for all of your concern.


I'm glad you did your own research. It sure helps to know you are not alone as you struggle with the 'looking worse' period. And Bravo for you to pick it back up and keep going. I am sure you will start seeing the positive results soon. Sometimes skincare products make us look worse before we look better and this is the same.
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sister sweets wrote:
summer2004 wrote:
Hi Bira & Fawnie,

I have monitored my NL fold for a few days after stopping doing Ageless.

Relieved finally......the fold has returned to the level before doing the exercises.

I will resume doing Ageless (but not Crush) tomorrow & see how it's going!

In the past few days, I did a search about facial exercises, most comments were positive; some people, like what I commented, did have a period of "looking worse" but it was just temporary!

Sis, thx for all of your concern.


I'm glad you did your own research. It sure helps to know you are not alone as you struggle with the 'looking worse' period. And Bravo for you to pick it back up and keep going. I am sure you will start seeing the positive results soon. Sometimes skincare products make us look worse before we look better and this is the same.


SS, I think I'm ok with facial exercises making us look worse before better but skincare products I'm not ok with. Any skincare product that makes me look worse I stop it right away. Shock
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You know, I had one of those "worse before better" phases with Green Cream (made my skin break out in cystic pimples). But I got thru it and the GC really made my skin clear and tight and smooth. I used it to prepare for Retin-A Micro, which I now use with good success. So I guess it depends on the product.

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I would like to know when you are grabbing the flesh, do you slightly grab it or squeeze it very tight?
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I use the tissue (2 pieces of toilet paper) between my hands and the skin, and I try to grab a good chunk of flesh firmly and pull it away from the face to create the tension. Then when I am doing the exercise, I try to concentrate on the feeling of the muscle, and adjust the strength of my grab/pull to feel the muscle working (you know when you work a muscle on the body you feel this warm, slightly painful, kinda tiring sensation). This way, I really can do only 20-25 repeats at a time because it is intense.

So I think the strength of pulling depends on your muscles. I think if muscles are too week and there is not much tension, it will be better after some time of exercising.

But you definitely have to grab some flesh and pull it away a bit (not just pinch/squeeze the skin).
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Has anyone heard from LouLou recently?
It seems that she hasn't checked in at her board lately, or here either. Just hoping something hasn't happened to her! Question

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Has anyone heard from LouLou recently?
It seems that she hasn't checked in at her board lately, or here either. Just hoping something hasn't happened to her! Question


Fawnie,
I was just coming home in my car and was wondering the same thing!!! You know, I am concerned too. Here is the situation: I had communications with her back and forth, she was very helpful and supporting with info etc. So I decided to start the program we worked out with her, thus I sent her payment for 1 month private training on April 3d (PayPal showed it's been accepted), but I haven't heard back since. I sent her an email right after, and then a week after, 2 weeks after ... NOTHING! So today I was wondering if she is doing ok (I really do not think she would just not reply for so long to her customer, would she?). On my way home tonight I was thinking to ask on the board, came home and here is your question...

Does anyone hear anything from LouLou after April 3d?
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LL finally checked in at Ageless yesterday.

She's been having a great deal of trouble with her computer.

Just to reassure...

Linda Very Happy
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Just what I was coming to say, too!
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