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Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:44 am      Reply with quote
Now that I've learned the routine, I do it sitting at my computer or watching my shows.

I'm lazy too. I've gotten to where I'll skip a day or two, but I try to do a little every day.

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Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:58 am      Reply with quote
Thank you for the tips ladies!! Just wondering if anyone has had good results from these facial exercise programs and do they really work? As mentioned, I've lost volume in my marionette line area and didn't know if building muscle could replace it? Or am I just wasting my time? Should I just invest in fillers?
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:26 am      Reply with quote
If you read over this thread, you will see many comments about Ageless and how it works. There is another facial exercise thread here (search) that discusses all the different programs.

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Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:00 pm      Reply with quote
I am looking forward to purchasing this program, I wish I knew about it when it was ten bucks! Anyway 40 bucks is still a small price to pay for eternal youth. My long term goal is to be mistaken for my daughters sister not mother Laughing

I contacted the ageless site to find out about the download because my computer is just about to croak, and I dont want to waste money on a program I cant get to! They said I could keep it on my computer or print it and as for the dvd I could watch it on the computer or make a disk and use it on my tv.

My question to all of you who may have done this, if I buy the program now at the special rate, how would I be able to burn a copy of the dvd to watch on my tv? I dont have a burner in my current computer and dont anticipate getting a new computer for a few months? Heck, I am so computer illiterate I dont even know how I will get it from the old computer to my new one. A friend said if I get the email downloads and open the email at her house she could burn the disc for me, but then would that mean I couldnt put it on my computer? Anyone who knows, that would be great cause the book and dvd download for 45 bucks is a good deal and I want to take advantage of it.

Also, what has happened to LouLou? I havent seen her post since the beginning of this thread.
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:02 am      Reply with quote
She did pop back to announce the launch of her hotspots stuff, but didn't stay around and didn't explain why she vanished in any great detail. I do think her program is good, but the way that customers were treated in the past I think is terrible.
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Also, what has happened to LouLou? I havent seen her post since the beginning of this thread.
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:22 am      Reply with quote
TheresaMary wrote:
She did pop back to announce the launch of her hotspots stuff, but didn't stay around and didn't explain why she vanished in any great detail. I do think her program is good, but the way that customers were treated in the past I think is terrible.
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Also, what has happened to LouLou? I havent seen her post since the beginning of this thread.

Oh, Thanks for explaining that.
I noticed on one of her you tube video's that she looks like she is struggling with a nervous disorder of some sort. Maybe her health is not good.

On another note, what is the average timeframe that results are seen if the program is done religiously, should I expect to see any changes in 30 days? I am not a road map, but I do have the laugh lines, and just starting to get the damn marionette lines. Fifty sucks!
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:26 pm      Reply with quote
I've been reading on the internet alot about the problems w/facial exercising! They say all the pulling, contorting and stretching of the face causes more wrinkles! And can even make marionette lines look much worse! Does anyone know if this is true?? I need help w/my marionette lines and don't need to make them worse than they already are Laughing somebody help me with this creases please! I'm too young for these Sad
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:08 am      Reply with quote
Hi Everyone

I have just purchased the book and DVD. I was wondering if anyone has advice on how to avoid the uglies when doing this program?

Many thanks

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Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:44 am      Reply with quote
I donít know if it is a nervous disorder, but it could just be nerves but its never been mentioned by her directly or anyone else so it does make me wonder at times.

Iím not sure there is an ďaverageĒ time frame, but I would think like most programs you should get results within 2 weeks as a taster of them, but they are continuous and so you get more each time you do them.

Hey Fifty doesn't suck, I'm in my 60's and I'm starting to think life begins at 60 ha ha
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Oh, Thanks for explaining that.
I noticed on one of her you tube video's that she looks like she is struggling with a nervous disorder of some sort. Maybe her health is not good.

On another note, what is the average timeframe that results are seen if the program is done religiously, should I expect to see any changes in 30 days? I am not a road map, but I do have the laugh lines, and just starting to get the damn marionette lines. Fifty sucks!
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:45 am      Reply with quote
I would say follow the program as Lou describes it and take photos and observe how your face responds. I don't think Ageless gives you uglies to the same extent at other programs, but its always possible to overdo things, if you don't follow instructions.
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Hi Everyone

I have just purchased the book and DVD. I was wondering if anyone has advice on how to avoid the uglies when doing this program?

Many thanks

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Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:47 am      Reply with quote
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There are lots of scary horror stories out there, but at the same time there are just the opposite. I would say if you are that scared, donít do them, just wait till your face worsens and then you will be more motivated to do them. I started them late, in my 50ís and I wish I had done them much sooner but I have read horror stories. Its interesting to me when I began the internet wasnít what it is today, and I am sure if it had been I wouldnít have done them. I do know if it wasnít for being aggressive with my face then I wouldnít be getting the results and improvements I have seen.
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I've been reading on the internet alot about the problems w/facial exercising! They say all the pulling, contorting and stretching of the face causes more wrinkles! And can even make marionette lines look much worse! Does anyone know if this is true?? I need help w/my marionette lines and don't need to make them worse than they already are Laughing somebody help me with this creases please! I'm too young for these Sad
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:36 pm      Reply with quote
ok you guys are inspiring me, gonna get the program and see what happens.

I can honestly say I have spent 45 bucks on way worse stuff in my lifetime!
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:51 pm      Reply with quote
I too, am new to the program.

I've got the dvd and the book and in the short month and a half I've been doing these exercises, I KNOW I see an improvement in my face. The mouth area especially.

The facial massages suggested by Lou Lou feel soooo good!

Lots of good advice to be found here Smile
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:25 am      Reply with quote
riverdance..

everyones skin is different...in tradional medcine/skin care from india..everyone is classified into 3 dosas..vata, pitta and kapha (most people have a predominant dosa with some characteristics of another dosa as well)...vata has the thinnest, driest most easily wrinkled skin... kapha has the thickest most naturally lubricated skin...obviously what will work well for a kapha type skin..or even a pitta type skin will not work for a vata type skin..no matter what these other dosa type people will tell you.

so yes, especially if one is vata (and as we age we all become a liitle more vata..as aging itself can be classified as vata) it definetely is possible to get more wrinkes by doing facial exercises..and, no, they do not necessarily go away as you rebuild your muscle...although almost everyne will tell you that they will...so the trick, imo, is not to give up facial exercise but to adapt them to your own skin type.

i def got cheek wrinkles on my previously unwrinkled cheeks frm doing ageless..i began doing ageless at age 64....and no..they didn't come from anything else i was doing..and no, they did not go away as my cheek muscles built up..which they def have...and i could tell from the beginning..i could see those wrinkles were going to be permanent....

at the time i decided that i would prefer the wrinkles to having my face sag...and i still feel the same way....after about 6 months i really started getting compliments about how i looked..so built up cheek muscls really trump wrinkles in others eye is my experience....and imo one can still be beautiful with some wrinkles but facial sag is anther issue entirely.

also..it was suggested to me at the time..not by lou lou..who i love..but who gave me the facial exerciser's 'party line' that the wrinkles would go away as my muscles got stronger and the skin laid over them better...but from another ageless exerciser on the ageless forum..she held her skin taut with one hand..wherever she was exercising at the moment..and used her other hand to pinch the skin...i now use this technique with massage as well as facial exercising...it stops the skin from creasing while yu do the exercises

hope this info helps..i really can't respond to any questions though or possible pm's since we are leaving for india ina few days and i am sooo busy ...but i did read this thread to relax a little..and i felt i needed to give you some info you ight not get from anyone else on this thread that might be helpful.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:50 am      Reply with quote
Thanks so much for your replies. I have started the 30 day routine but now wondering if that is the correct one to start as a beginner?

Also, what time of day do you do the exercises? I do mine in the evening before bed and wake up with my eyes quite puffy but it soon settles down. I was wondering if it would be better to do them in the morning...
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I think the 30 day is the Hotspots program that you are supposed to do after you have done main program for a short while, but could be wrong.

I've got fair irish skin, so get blotchy and red and so do mine at night, but I don't think it matters what time as long as you do them.
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Thanks so much for your replies. I have started the 30 day routine but now wondering if that is the correct one to start as a beginner?

Also, what time of day do you do the exercises? I do mine in the evening before bed and wake up with my eyes quite puffy but it soon settles down. I was wondering if it would be better to do them in the morning...
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:32 am      Reply with quote
The 30 day program is not Hotspots. In order to do the 30-day, you need to have the Ageless routine. The 30-day does not describe or show you the exercises - you should already have them.

I thought a couple of times about posting this, and have decided to. Please understand I am not taking any one particular person to task - this is the last time I will mention it.

Why do you suppose LouLou avoids coming to this forum? Do you think it might be people openly speculating on her looks, stating that she must have some kind of nervous disorder? I had to bite my fingers when I read that to avoid saying someone cruel, that I might regret.

There are enough challenges to being a woman - let's not try to drag other women down. I realize that there were issues before with LouLou - that was before. IT'S OVER. Is there some reason why we can't move on from that? It's thoroughly discussed in this thread - can't we leave it in the past?

Again, I am so grateful to this woman. I don't care about the past. I care about my cheeks! LOL

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Hi I bought the book and dvd and got a document about the 30 day program with them. Sorry not sure what I should be doing. I am on day 5 today of the 30 day program. I just write down the exercises I am meant to do and then watch the DVD on how to do them....

Should I do 20 reps of all the exercises in the DVD (apart from the occasional ones) every other day?
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:28 am      Reply with quote
If you've only just started with Ageless, I would follow the normal program - which splits the routine into two days. You are meant to do them twice a week - i.e. Day one on Monday, Day two on Tuesday, Wednesday off, Day one on Thursday, Day two on Friday. I started off that way but now do the full routine, both days, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

I don't think you should jump into the 30 day until you have at least a couple of months of the regular routine under your belt, or in this case, under your cheeks! LOL

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Thanks very much. Is there anything that can be done to prevent wrinkles appearinge under the eyes or on the cheeks? Unfotunately, I did not understand what Jasminerose meant in her post.
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I didn't understand what jasminerose meant either, as most of the exercise are done using both hands. I suppose you could work one side of the face at a time, but I wouldn't do it, I want to keep balance and it seems like that would be counterproductive.

I have some wrinkles that fanned out as my cheeks were lifting, then smoothed out entirely. I still have creases when I smile, but in repose I have no lines, just a smooth contour.

If you're still very worried about it, I suggest that you buy some cotton gloves (the dollar store has them!) and use moisturiser before you do your routine.

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When you are selling anything to the public, especially when it comes around antiaging you do open yourself up to other peoples viewpoints about how you look and how your face moves and thatís an important part of consideration for some of us. Myself included. Its not that anyone has any issue if she did have any kind of nervous disorder (sorry but got to say that as you are making it sound like people are labelling her negatively for this)Ö. all people are worried about is if they do the exercises, could this perhaps contribute to them looking the same. I think thatís a fair enough question, and its an important one when considering any program. I do like Loulouís program, and have recommended it to several people, and like you in the early days was a HUGE SUPPORTER of her and her stuff. I donít think that people are dragging her down, by sharing their viewpoints, and everyone is entitled to them after all when considering purchasing a product like this arenít they?

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The 30 day program is not Hotspots. In order to do the 30-day, you need to have the Ageless routine. The 30-day does not describe or show you the exercises - you should already have them.

I thought a couple of times about posting this, and have decided to. Please understand I am not taking any one particular person to task - this is the last time I will mention it.

Why do you suppose LouLou avoids coming to this forum? Do you think it might be people openly speculating on her looks, stating that she must have some kind of nervous disorder? I had to bite my fingers when I read that to avoid saying someone cruel, that I might regret.

There are enough challenges to being a woman - let's not try to drag other women down. I realize that there were issues before with LouLou - that was before. IT'S OVER. Is there some reason why we can't move on from that? It's thoroughly discussed in this thread - can't we leave it in the past?

Again, I am so grateful to this woman. I don't care about the past. I care about my cheeks! LOL
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We'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't think it's acceptable - I think it's exceedingly rude and tasteless, and reflects more on the person making the observation than it does on anyone else.

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Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:49 am      Reply with quote
Like I said before though, if you are selling a product to the public Iím sorry but people will make such criticisms and voice their opinions. Whilst I donít agree with whats being said, I can understand and appreciate where people are coming from, but I donít think its fair to label anyone who has an opinion as being ďexceedingly rude and tastlessĒ. So we will definitely disagree there. Weíre all adults at the end of the day and we have a right to consider all the facts and presentation after all. The same is true for every program out there and EDS hasnít just done this with Loulou. Carole Maggio was discussed a little while ago. Its just something that goes with the territory and rightly so.
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We'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't think it's acceptable - I think it's exceedingly rude and tasteless, and reflects more on the person making the observation than it does on anyone else.
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Okay....you've convinced me to try the facial exercises TheresaMary! Thank you! I just hope I see an improvement in my marionette lines soon...I'm utterly depressed about them and don't even want to go out in public! I know it sounds crazy but I feel like people are staring at them Rolling Eyes Anyway, I like Tom's H's program but I think it's more designed for men. I sent him an email and he referred me to Carolyn's FF program. He said her program was geared more towards women and the build one can achieve from her program was softer, more feminine. I certainly appreciate his honesty and great customer service! As I do Carolyn's! I've sent her a couple of emails and she got back to me within an hour!! I've sent several to Carole Maggio and LouLou and have yet to hear back! That speaks volumes, don't you think? Have you tried Carolyn's program? Has anyone out here? What did you think and what were your results?
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