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Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:07 am      Reply with quote
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Hi everyone

Just reporting back that after 9 months I am delighted with the results I am getting with Ageless.

I want to lose about 2 stone and am now terrified that I will undo all the good work. Any tips on how to lose weight without causing problems with the face.

I was thinking along the lines of losing 2 lbs a week and continuing with Ageless. I have also bought the Ageless Hotspots but not started it yet and not sure if this would be a better program to do with weight loss.

Any advice? Unfortunately, I do have to lose weight not just tone up. In my job I walk all day and will be doing Callanetics.

Thanks everyone xx


I would say if you are post-menopause, the slower the better. When I lost about 1.5 stone in my late 50s, mostly by diet, I aimed for 1 - 1.5 lbs per week max, as I wanted to give my skin (body and face) a chance to catch up. Once I got within my goal weight, my face looked too thin, so I started putting some weight back on to try and get a better balance - increasingly challenging with age! I now concentrate on exercise - aerobics, weight training, facial exercises (Ageless Smile + some extras from other programmes) and some Callanetics Smile exercises when I have time - and having a healthy diet but NOT dieting.
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:51 am      Reply with quote
Heya

I don't know the precise answer to your question, so I'm relieved that Tyger has actually come up with a formula! It does sound sensible to do this little by little approach, but my experience has been that the skin adapts even to rapid weight loss eventually. The Tyger method, however, will keep you looking good as you go, which in my book is miles better than enduring periods of distressing side-effects to achieve the same result.

Both routes seem to take the same amount of time, but rest assured that your skin will adapt to your new weight. There's no need to worry if you're encouraging your skin to gather elasticity and thickness.

Take heart and rest assured that your face will catch up Smile

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Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:22 am      Reply with quote
The Tyger method Laughing - just to clarify, I did reduce my food intake to get my initial weight loss (again my own method Laughing ) but then began eating more to fatten my too-slim face (classic figure or face dilemma). After introducing more exercise, as previously detailed, I have stopped any notion of 'dieting'.

I agree that skin can catch up over time but, as otherloulou said, if choosing fast weight loss, it is dealing with how you look during that time before it adjusts - I couldn't deal with it.

Just my experience, for what it's worth (I'm early 60s now).
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Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:33 pm      Reply with quote
At any rate, we no longer need to decide between face and figure! Laughing

How cool is it To know how to deal with your face and have it looking fit and healthy forever? Relax and enjoy!

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Forever, for a few years anyway! Very Happy
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Hi can I just stand up and shout for this program. I have not always been a fan... I was about to give up face excercises for good lbecause I couldnt see any change in my eye sockets or jowlskept going and then someone at work asked me why I look so good. I look in the mirror and at some old photo's of me and ohmigod there's a definite changedir the better. I'm nowhere near where I want be yet bit I am going the right way. I had to give up my skin care pampering stuff that I loved to use every nighbecause it cost too much but I can honestly see a good change even without it which makes it easier to miss out on my ritual. Would still love to get the eds voucher tho Very Happy

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Crikey I'm confused!

What were you not always a fan of? Question Smile
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Um thought I was forwarding steve a PM.
Sorry forum, and very sorry to Prima.

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Oh no! Now it makes sense. I couldn't figure out what on earth you meant!

I should have said hello, too, before asking the question. So rude of me! It's good to "see" you Lou. You have always been (and still are) such a kind and considerate person. And you look gorgeous and fabulous in your latest photos!
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Hi pretty Pea,

Thank you for your lovely message, Ive missed your beauty, charm and warmth, it's so great to see you here xxxxx

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Hi pretty Pea,

Thank you for your lovely message, I've missed my daily contact with your beauty, charm and warmth, it's so great to see you here xxxxx

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Just wanted to say Thank you to LouLou & Steve at Ageless. I purchased a download of the program 4 years ago and did the exercises for a while and gave up. My computer crashed & I lost the download. I emailed them late last night after reading all of the positive threads on the exercises - eager to get back at it. Got a reply & new download link within minutes. I was sooo impressed and am excited to continue where I left off. Very Happy

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Hello everyone! I've been wrapped up in mundane things and haven't been doing much of anything fun. I've been slacking on all my routines except for Ageless - it's so easy and fast that there is absolutely no excuse not to do it!

I can relate to the weight loss/aging thing - I lost a lot of weight and while I love my body, I do wish I could regain some of the fat that I had in my face. I did gain about 6 pounds recently but in my belly, dammit. Just as well since it was gone as quickly as it came.

Hard for me to gain weight and easy to lose - once I would have been delighted for that...

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I've downloaded the book and video. After reading the book, somehow I guess, I missed how many repetitions of each exercise to do. Could you guys just quickly tell me, I have not printed the book yet and it will take me long time to look through it again. So, the question is, how many repetitions of each exercise to do for optimal result but not to overdo them. Thanks!
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20 reps on Days one and two, and the occasionals are 10 reps.

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Thank you so much for telling me. I do not know know how I missed that. Now I can start full speed!
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I think you're going to be thrilled when you experience the lift in your cheeks and face. And it's a wonderful feeling when your friends and acquaintances start telling you that you look fabulous!

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Hello everyone! I've been wrapped up in mundane things and haven't been doing much of anything fun. I've been slacking on all my routines except for Ageless - it's so easy and fast that there is absolutely no excuse not to do it!

I can relate to the weight loss/aging thing - I lost a lot of weight and while I love my body, I do wish I could regain some of the fat that I had in my face. I did gain about 6 pounds recently but in my belly, dammit. Just as well since it was gone as quickly as it came.

Hard for me to gain weight and easy to lose - once I would have been delighted for that...



Hi Immacolata,

Actually, through your training with Ageless, you can and WILL replace some of the facial fat you've lost... just through normal ageing.

Subcutaneous tissue consists of:

Fibrous bands..anchoring the skin to deeper layers.
Collagen and elastin fibers attaching it to the dermis
Fat ...except in the eyelids.

Through your training you increase Collagen, Elastin AND Subcutaneous Fat. The fat is NEEDED as a cushion (the body knows just what to do.) You can't have one without the other. So, train on! Very Happy

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Wow, thanks Deb! That is good to know.

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Immacolata wrote:
Hello everyone! I've been wrapped up in mundane things and haven't been doing much of anything fun. I've been slacking on all my routines except for Ageless - it's so easy and fast that there is absolutely no excuse not to do it!

I can relate to the weight loss/aging thing - I lost a lot of weight and while I love my body, I do wish I could regain some of the fat that I had in my face. I did gain about 6 pounds recently but in my belly, dammit. Just as well since it was gone as quickly as it came.

Hard for me to gain weight and easy to lose - once I would have been delighted for that...



Hi Immacolata,

Actually, through your training with Ageless, you can and WILL replace some of the facial fat you've lost... just through normal ageing.

Subcutaneous tissue consists of:

Fibrous bands..anchoring the skin to deeper layers.
Collagen and elastin fibers attaching it to the dermis
Fat ...except in the eyelids.

Through your training you increase Collagen, Elastin AND Subcutaneous Fat. The fat is NEEDED as a cushion (the body knows just what to do.) You can't have one without the other. So, train on! Very Happy


That has been my experience: that the whole area (not just muscle) seems to beef up. Though I can't say like it feels like I've gained much fat (unfortunately...don't I wish!), but definitely the connective tissue feels thicker and the area is fuller.

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I've covered a little more on the subject. Go to this link: http://flexeffect.proboards.com click Facialbuilding then click 'Loss of Facial Fat' I so wish I could find the write-up I found years ago...so much more info... but you'll get the idea Very Happy

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Hello, everyone! I posted the following in a different thread (Deb's photos thread) and thought it was an interesting read about fat loss and muscle building/spot reducing:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/spot_reduction_is_real_heres_how_to_do_it

After I read the article, I was thinking that maybe it would still be safe to do facial exercises if I exercised after a meal, when the fat protective insulin was in my blood stream (Additional reading I have done lately shows insulin peaks about 45 mins after start of a meal). And leave ab wkouts and cardio for in the morning, during fasting. (this would mean no more laying in bed and facial exercising in the morning)

Deb commented on my article on her FlexEffect forum, and I stopped over there to read the thread. I had no idea I could participate in the FlexEffect forum since I do not own the program, BUT I realized it is an open forum! And there is a ton of great information there on facial exercising!

I follow the Ageless program right now, and much to my surprise there is a thread for Ageless users at the Flex Effect board. Here is the link


http://flexeffect.proboards.com/thread/5191/welcome-ageless

Maybe I will see you there!

-Jen

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Well, it's been about a year and a half since I started Ageless, and I think I'm finally seeing some results. They are subtle for sure, but I'm noticing that the bit of jowling I was starting to have looks better. The weird thing is that I can't really see improvements in my photos, but in the mirror, there is something good happening. Yay, Ageless! However, I still have terrible undereye hollows and hooded eyes - no real change. But lower face improvements ain't nothing, so I'm going to keep going. Smile


So you're saying it took you a whole year and a half to see results? That's kind of a long time, isnt it?

Do most people have to wait over a year to see any results?
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Hi Jen

I donít know if you read any of the stuff by Teresa Tapp of T-tapp but sheís got a wealth of information and has shown that spot reduction is possible despite what the many experts try to convince us about.

With facial exercises and exercising after a meal, I have a lot of experience with this and particularly focus on both sugar and insulin (with being a diabetic it has always a place of interest to me) and what I have found is that some people differ greatly from what the books say about exercising at particular times with insulin peaks etc. For one, I donít think of insulin as being fat protective, because that assumes quite a bit about the person and Iíve sadly found that often times those assumptions can be incorrect. For one when insulin does peak, whether it is due to the natural cycle of a personís body chemistry or as a result of stimulus by the body to some sugary foods that have been consumed, the insulin peak is short lived, but does spark of a chain of events as a result to that.

The idea of exercising on an empty stomach and first thing in the morning is the belief that the body will use whatever resources it has available as fuel to sustain the efforts of the body and so will burn up the fat supplies it has as a fuel source. Now there is some truth to it, but you got to do a lot of digging as at first glance it seems uniform and then you can find a wide variety of suggestions showing that there is a lot of discrepancies there too. Also not everybodyís insulin production peaks at the same time or rates, some have been found to have gradual rising, whilst others have dramatic and high rises (which is then followed by crashing down) and so its really about balance.

I have at times done both facial exercises before eating, and after and several hours after and not really noticed major benefits to either that outway the rest, but I have had clients who have done before eating (as in first thing in the morning) and reported dramatic results, and also had clients who do it before bed too. What I have noticed about those clients is that they had very good body knowledge already of what worked for them well, and their diets were pretty much above standard in that it was nutrient dense. So Iím often tempted to say its about balance in all areas.

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Hello, everyone! I posted the following in a different thread (Deb's photos thread) and thought it was an interesting read about fat loss and muscle building/spot reducing:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/spot_reduction_is_real_heres_how_to_do_it

After I read the article, I was thinking that maybe it would still be safe to do facial exercises if I exercised after a meal, when the fat protective insulin was in my blood stream (Additional reading I have done lately shows insulin peaks about 45 mins after start of a meal). And leave ab wkouts and cardio for in the morning, during fasting. (this would mean no more laying in bed and facial exercising in the morning)

Deb commented on my article on her FlexEffect forum, and I stopped over there to read the thread. I had no idea I could participate in the FlexEffect forum since I do not own the program, BUT I realized it is an open forum! And there is a ton of great information there on facial exercising!

I follow the Ageless program right now, and much to my surprise there is a thread for Ageless users at the Flex Effect board. Here is the link


http://flexeffect.proboards.com/thread/5191/welcome-ageless

Maybe I will see you there!

-Jen

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With facial exercises its really about working with your body. Most people will see results within a few weeks of beginning any program (things like increase in skin thickness etc) but these are far from the finished product. Also some muscles are very responsive and some are less so, and it takes time and working out to wake them all up and get them respnding and growing stronger, so often times when Iím teaching people I advise them to give their training at least a year so they have a good grounding but also will have seen a wide range of changes. Sometimes the changes can be so subtle that you donít notice them because you view your own face so regularly each day, but when you compare photographs and see visible differences its highly motivating. Usually changes start out with being a feeling (you feel an increase in skin thickness) and then visible results start showing up, which sometimes will show in photos and sometimes donít. Each person is unique and will respond at different times and in different ways but after a year most people generally find their muscles responsive and have seen what is possible with them.

So although I canít answer for Beehive, depending on where she was starting from, the condition of her skin, what her issues were and genetics, lifestyle and diet etc (which all play a role) it may be that she has seen the results she was hoping for after a year and a half simply because she needed that amount of time and training under her belt. Also its again not to suggest that Beehive won't get further results - she may very well get several more pleasant changes showing up as time progresses too.

bellabambiiina wrote:
Beehive wrote:
Well, it's been about a year and a half since I started Ageless, and I think I'm finally seeing some results. They are subtle for sure, but I'm noticing that the bit of jowling I was starting to have looks better. The weird thing is that I can't really see improvements in my photos, but in the mirror, there is something good happening. Yay, Ageless! However, I still have terrible undereye hollows and hooded eyes - no real change. But lower face improvements ain't nothing, so I'm going to keep going. Smile


So you're saying it took you a whole year and a half to see results? That's kind of a long time, isnt it?

Do most people have to wait over a year to see any results?

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