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Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:53 am      Reply with quote
I'd be so grateful if a few people could give feedback on how long it took them to see their face lift after starting Ageless I am asked this all the time. Thanks so much, Ll 👻

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Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:43 am      Reply with quote
Very quickly

I used to think it worked from the first session but now I think that the fast lift is because of the muscles waking up and it takes longer to make a permanent change. But watever I looked better straightway.
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:24 am      Reply with quote
I noticed my skin looked healthier right away. It took 2+months to see some slight improvement. My under eye hollows filled in very quickly near the temple. Any suggestions for exercises loulou? (the middle of the eye area to the nose) thanks!
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:12 pm      Reply with quote
Hoping that Loulou answers my PM, please check!!

Also, do any other these exercises help to fill in temple areas themselves? Mine are very hollow!! And for people that are very gaunt, which exercises should we avoid? And 4 days a week, is that enough. 2 days of day 1 and 2 days of day2?
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:36 pm      Reply with quote
Oops, i dont think mine made sense. (Multitasking)
I need help filling in the tear troughs. The outter areas filled in (I'll take more tho Very Happy ),but the inner eye area lacks
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Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:01 am      Reply with quote
Hi Mamaherra,

The only exercise that gaunt people might avoid is the Crush exercise, number 6. The sculpted cheek look temporary but you might prefer to do the modified version.

The temple area can be built up to some extent by exercising the jaw but you need to talk to your doctor before you start putting strain on the jaw joint. It's the only exercise that you need to check on

4 days are plenty. You can do more if you like, but the 4 days allow your face plenty of time to recover.

All best,

Loulou 😄

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Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:40 am      Reply with quote
Hi Aam,

The eye muscle goes right round the eye, encompassing a large area that extends some way beyond the socket. The Wish exercise thickens the entire area equally over time. It's not possible to exercise upper,lower, inner or outer areas without doing the rest at the same time. Your tear troughs will fill out in time, just try not to dwell on them. Trust me, nobody else will notice xx

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Sun May 08, 2016 7:40 am      Reply with quote
Hi aam LouLou is right about the eyearea getting thicker. It did take a while but my eyearea is defanately less hollow than it was a year ago. My eyes still look puffy in the morning but I guesd that's because of my glass of wine Laughing
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Sun May 08, 2016 7:44 am      Reply with quote
Awesome, ballerina. Ive been at it since mid December. How long is long?
Loulou, if I broke down and botox my crows feet, will that effect my cheek exercises? I'm scared of a weird build.
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Sun May 08, 2016 7:53 am      Reply with quote
Happy Mother's Day to you too aam Very Happy
It happened abit at a time. I didn't notice it happening then one day I looked at myself and sa a good difference for a change! Other ppl started commenting after about 3 or 4 moths I guess but not those I saw everyday. Hth Cool
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Mon May 09, 2016 7:55 am      Reply with quote
Hi Aam

I think ballerina is right that you notice the results all at once. It's like your hair growing. I think eyes generally look significantly less hollow at around the 6-9 month point, but that varies a great deal.

About botox: Fine,your eye muscles are two little independent pools of muscle. They lie on top of the fleshy mass of the face and you don't use them to smile, the crinkling comes from them being pulled by the cheek muscles and that happens whether you botox or not. But please remember that you can't thicken or fill out the eye area if your muscles are frozen!

All best with your mission!

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Mon May 09, 2016 11:47 am      Reply with quote
and how do these exercises, since we do nothing in particular with the forehead much, how do they help the "11's"?
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Mon May 09, 2016 12:07 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you loulou!!!😍
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I like the pinching and scrunching of the skin but I've noticed that when I pinch my forehead skin, (real small pinches) I get lines that stay on my forehead for like 3-4 hours, not nice, I mean real marked lines and I only pinch rapidly, it's not like I'm holding that pinch for a long while. . . does this happen to anyone else?
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Tue May 10, 2016 7:28 am      Reply with quote
This did happen to me too in the beginning, but like Loulou says over time the skin thickens up, but I guess its just where you are starting from. Over time the skin gets more thicker and resilient and doesn’t show those lines. I also like to pinch and roll the skin too and that helped me with lines when they did show up.
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I like the pinching and scrunching of the skin but I've noticed that when I pinch my forehead skin, (real small pinches) I get lines that stay on my forehead for like 3-4 hours, not nice, I mean real marked lines and I only pinch rapidly, it's not like I'm holding that pinch for a long while. . . does this happen to anyone else?
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thanks so much for replying. Ok , so not just pinch, but pinch it and then roll it, I"ll try that. But at least so Id on't worry.. . . if these lines do appear, they will not become permanent, even if I make them every night by pinching, right? cuz it seems like they tend to appear in certain "rolls" more than others!
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Wed May 11, 2016 2:14 am      Reply with quote
Wait – not recommend you pinch and roll was just sharing that is what I do that helps me. The lines should not become permanent. Loulou used to describe lines/wrinkles with a table cloth analogy that is helpful where she explains the exercises build up the table and eventually the skin (or table cloth) adapts and fits better.

Not sure I understand what you mean by more rolls than others – but I remember somewhere there was a suggestion that you can do it too much so you may want to have more “rest” days. Not sure what the technical explanation was but its also worth considering.
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thanks so much for replying. Ok , so not just pinch, but pinch it and then roll it, I"ll try that. But at least so Id on't worry.. . . if these lines do appear, they will not become permanent, even if I make them every night by pinching, right? cuz it seems like they tend to appear in certain "rolls" more than others!
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Wed May 11, 2016 3:08 am      Reply with quote
Thanks Theresa,
I meant that in certain "pinches" those lines form immediately and stay longer, almost like maybe those are specific areas that I make expressions so they're more used to forming wrinkles, I don't know, just me thinking/analyzing too much. Maybe I"ll do it every other day instead of every day for a while and see if that helps as well. As long as they don't become permanent. I just wonder to myself 1) why the forehead is more typical to mark lines as opposed to cheeks/etc?? Is it cuz there is less fat?? Like even when I wrap a towel around my hair for just 10 minutes (and I don't tie it tight) it leaves a mark on my forehead right away. ANd 2) does that mean there is lack of elasticity in that skin, is that why it doesn't bounce right back?? Just me asking questions!!
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Wed May 11, 2016 4:18 am      Reply with quote
Oh okay that makes more sense. I wouldn’t worry about it – when you start off doing anything its scary but soon it will be so second nature you will have trouble remembering any time you didn’t do anything, plus I know when life gets busy and I stop doing my workouts – I can see my face changing and it motivates me to start up again.

With the forehead, I think part of the issue is that its near the top of the head – so when Mr Gravity pushes down, the excess tissue drops too, plus as you rightly say the cheeks have more muscles and padding too. I think that’s why Lou’s suggestion of not working out the forehead is a good idea for the majority of people. It stops the muscle bunching up and becoming knotted.
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Wed May 11, 2016 5:04 am      Reply with quote
Dear mamaherrerra,

The muscle grows smoother and more like its younger self when you work on it. Any wrinkling is very temporary, especially that from pinching the skin!

Wrinkles aren't creased skin: if you look at the video about wrinkling on the Ageless website I explain how they are formed; the vid is only about a minute long and it will reassure you that it's all fine. Post-exercise wrinkling is as temporary as muscles aching after a workout. The muscles are getting stronger, not weaker when this happens.

All best, Loulou Smile Cool

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And Theresa Mary, thanks so much for all the help you give to people with the Ageless programme.

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Wed May 11, 2016 5:11 am      Reply with quote
The 1 minute video about wrinkling is here:

http://www.agelessifyoudare.org/hello/about-wrinkles/

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Wed May 11, 2016 12:15 pm      Reply with quote
Ok thanks to all of you. That helped. But if we are advised to not work out the forehead, (and I understand why) how will my "11's" and forehead lines improve from this workout??
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Thu May 12, 2016 5:14 am      Reply with quote
Hi mamaherrerra Smile

The easy 10 exercises don't deal with the forehead at all. The emphasis is on lifting the face, and the forehead doesn't come into that. So as far as that's concerned, the answer is that it doesn't do anything.

The Ageless book of Massage improves the condition of the forehead without the temporary wrinkling. Rejuvenation is achieved by breaking down the muscle and making it repair itself a little stronger/younger/smoother each time.

The massage exercises cause the forehead to rebuild by breaking down the muscular tissue with the hands rather than by repeatedly scrunching it up!

All best,
Loulou

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Thu May 12, 2016 10:04 am      Reply with quote
TheresaMary wrote:
Well done - although I'm a little disappointed in the comments that were put after the article. To me it doesn't look like you have had surgery, and yet I find that even in my own case people try to rubbish facial exercises. I suppose some day they will get it.


The people commenting were a lot of asses, IMO. Too bad commenting was closed, I would have liked to chime in.

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