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Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:43 pm      Reply with quote
otherloulou wrote:
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Yola, just to say that the Ageless exercises do great things for the skin on their own. I don't use any other treatments or devices on my face, and I'd recommend that people try doing the Ageless program by itself and see if they need any further treatment.

Bruising doesn't look great, but it's actually producing the same effects as a lot of the products that you mention. The principle is to challenge the face/skin so that it will rebuild itself stronger, just as the other organs in the body respond by building muscle, lung capacity, etc if you make them work hard and really, in truth, break them down. Repair is what produces new, healthy tissue. You're making your face more alive 😎

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Loulou, so should we continue to exercise through the bruising? I am doing the 3rd edition, 21 day program with massage interspersed throughout the 21 days.I am only bruising around the nostrils.
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:18 pm      Reply with quote
Hi Belle 😊

If you're not concerned about how you look short term, yes, by all means continue through any bruising and reap the rewards later.

However, the improvement in skin thickness and elasticity will take place even if you choose to take the process slowly and avoid bruising altogether by limiting the number of training sessions you do.

I usually think it's better to look as good as you can throughout the process of rebuilding the face, but if you're tough you can speed the process and work through the times where you don't look your best.

Whatever pace you choose to train at, just like consistent work at the gym, you are bound to look much younger in the end 😊

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Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:28 pm      Reply with quote
I just wanted to add, any bruising shows you're gripping your face very firmly, which also means you've been able to work the muscles very hard, as well as having stimulated the skin into rebuilding and repairing itself.

Just remember that while squeezing with the hand increases intensity, you should allow the muscle to work rather than pulling the face with the hand.

All best,

Louise Annette

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Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:59 am      Reply with quote
Hi, I had an email about the eye area which I promised to answer here.

While lifting the bulk of the face requires attention to combination of muscles working in sync, the eye is very, very simple.

One muscle is responsible for the entire eyelid and socket area. Tighten it and you smooth and flatten everything at once, whether it's drooping upper lids or bags under the eyes. You literally only need one exercise, overworking the eye area doesn't give you a nice look in the short term. It's better to do a little and allow time to recover.

But exercising the eye area is incredibly effective. It's arguably the area that tightens quickest. You can't go wrong

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Loulou can I ask what about the Levator palpebrae muscle (the lid itself). I know some programs do exercises for that. Whilst the orbicularis is the general muscle, the upper lid itself seems to be a separate muscle from what I read and am curious as if you think working that muscle is a bad idea?
otherloulou wrote:
Hi, I had an email about the eye area which I promised to answer here.

While lifting the bulk of the face requires attention to combination of muscles working in sync, the eye is very, very simple.

One muscle is responsible for the entire eyelid and socket area. Tighten it and you smooth and flatten everything at once, whether it's drooping upper lids or bags under the eyes. You literally only need one exercise, overworking the eye area doesn't give you a nice look in the short term. It's better to do a little and allow time to recover.

But exercising the eye area is incredibly effective. It's arguably the area that tightens quickest. You can't go wrong

Loulou 😘
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:06 am      Reply with quote
Hi Theresa Mary,
You're spot on, the tiny levator palpebrae does lift the upper lid significantly, and it's one of the central muscles we address in Ageless.

But in terms of eye bags, overhanging brow area and crows feet, the orbicularis oculis deals with it all. It'll lift smooth and rejuvenate the entire eye area and sort it all out, the opening up of the eyes makes them bigger, not firmer and tighter as the big eye area muscle does.

All best,

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Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:51 am      Reply with quote
Hey, been a while since I posted.heres an update if it can be of use. Positive: My face in general looks amazing, I'd forgotten how I used to look.
My eyes have really improved. I had initial wrinkling but loulou is right, it's temporary and now, after 6 weeks I am reaping the rewards.
Negative: my neck isn't much tighter despite a combo of Ageless and dermaroller, also my forehead hasn't improved.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:41 am      Reply with quote
Thanks Loulou that makes sense.

Lenny that's mega cool. My neck took ages to respond but it did eventually and a lot of it had to do with my posture. I have a friend with a beautiful neck who is in her 60's and does ballet and she has amazing posture and her neck is that of a young woman.

For me my forehead was never a concern it was dread sagging and my mid and lower face after weightloss but we all have our issues.
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Hi Theresa Mary , that's great to know that you eventually achieved a nice neck. That gives me hope. I shouldn't complain because I'm Delidelighted with my face. If I say so myself I look great! Lenny Laughing Laughing Very Happy thanks for the encouragement it gives me a kick to keep up the work until my face matches
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I'm really trying to incorporate more massage into my routine. My skin is loving it!! I love the simplicity of Ageless! I have one cheek that for some reason is NOT responding to these exercises. I'm not comfortable posting a picture of myself (not sure how to either). I've read through the thread and know that I'm supposed to focus on that side, but it's not working. I'm hoping by upping the massage, growth will follow. I'm open to suggestions.
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Don't worry - the neck takes time and I think posture is a key element that took me a while to figure out so you are ahead of the game. For example, I used to sleep high on two big fluffy pillows and that was creating the skin underneath my chin and my neck itself to be saggy too. When I changed that - my neck skin changed within a very short space of time. It was a friend who pointed out that my posture needed improving, as I was at lunch and hunched over and she mentioned it to me. I sat up straight and she said my neck changed and I got really motivated them. Plus the massage helps too!
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Hi Theresa Mary , that's great to know that you eventually achieved a nice neck. That gives me hope. I shouldn't complain because I'm Delidelighted with my face. If I say so myself I look great! Lenny Laughing Laughing Very Happy thanks for the encouragement it gives me a kick to keep up the work until my face matches
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Sometimes for the sides to even up you just need time of doing the exercises. I suppose a lot of the time we have a more stronger side that's overused and a side that's neglected. So when we start exercising - the neglected side takes a while to wake up. No biggie it does eventually. I don't know about concentrating more on the weaker/less responsive side - as a lot of programs say not to do that but to focus equally on both sides the same. I can't remember the explanations give but there was one for sure.
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I'm really trying to incorporate more massage into my routine. My skin is loving it!! I love the simplicity of Ageless! I have one cheek that for some reason is NOT responding to these exercises. I'm not comfortable posting a picture of myself (not sure how to either). I've read through the thread and know that I'm supposed to focus on that side, but it's not working. I'm hoping by upping the massage, growth will follow. I'm open to suggestions.
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Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:20 am      Reply with quote
Hi Aam
How you doing? I think you're doing great. Your face is high and firm and you've eliminated all sag. You look ten years younger than your real age.

Massage does help shape the upper cheeks, especially the bone massages in the second Ageless book. Also you can safely focus on one side for facial training, although it's not recommended for training the body.

And Theresa Mary is right, you continue to see changes in your face even after a long time. It's like the reverse of ageing, you discover little things all the time, only it's nice surprises for a change 🙂

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Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:23 am      Reply with quote
Also just to say if you sleep on your side that can have an effect too. I realized this about 10 years ago, as I was side sleeper and it definitely had an effect on my face. When I learned to sleep on my back my sides kind of evened up. Suppose squashing half your face into a pillow is a form of exercise!
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Yes the cheeks do tend to gradually squash into the shape they're pushed into. The bone massages are really good for moulding the upper cheek into a nice plump shape when they've flattened.
If you don't have the Ageless massage book you can do this simple exercise instead.

Grasp the cheek as you would for exercise 3 or 4 and slide the hand back and forth, pressing the cheek into the rounded shape you're after.

Cheers, loulou 😎

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Thank you both for the replies! I thought I responded, but it must not have posted. I am making a huge effort to sleep on my back. Wow, its tough. I'm going to see if that helps.

Loulou, I have the original ageless so I have the massage in that one, but i will implement the above recommendation. Much appreciated! I'm starting to agree, massage is key! Its something I barely did prior to ordering the conture kinetic skin toning system. I'm actually going to return it bc my hands seem to have the same response.
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Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:24 am      Reply with quote
Hi aam!
I'm so glad it's working for you!

you can massage your face almost by intuition.

The skin thrives when it's challenged by handling it, pulling, rubbing, stretching in any way you like, rolling it between finger and thumb, dragging the hands over it or giving it little tugs.

The shape of the face as a whole benefits from being literally shaped by the hands. Dig in and rub the bone anywhere you'd like it to curve inward. Under the cheekbones is excellent for plumping out the upper cheek, under the jawbone tempers the jawline.

Good luck 😉

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i started ageless about 2 weeks ago. i haven't noticed anything yet except some tiredness in the eyes and face at times.

i'm 41 and have gaunt in cheek area and temples.. jowls , and drooping eyes.. rather than the hooded eye problem, i have the other problem..my upper lids become more pronounced, heavy, droopy, and sunken throughout the day. they start off normal in the morning(i can see some upper lid) but then its like they get heavy and my eyes less and less open (and harder to open wide).

i've bags under my eyes.. these have always been there so i think hereditary but worse now. gauntness, jowls, and bags under eyes have been there for several years, but seem to have become more pronounced in last several years while i was on a very low carb diet (a mistake). in past year i've been eating better for my body (and finally healing from long-time digestive issues).. but face gauntness remains. truley looks like face has gone in and down. jawline weak and with the jowlyness.

so.. i'm not doing crush.. but everything else. i alternate day 1 and day 2. so doing 7 days a week. after reading posts, thinking of reduce to 4 days a week or something less to give my face time to recover.

should i reduce day 2? what i'd like is fullness in the cheeks. when i put my fingers on my cheeks and go slightly out and up..i notice not only fuller face, but also i think that would help my jawline/jowls. eyes are still same with lids/bags.

should i just continue on as is 7 days a week alternating day 1 day 2 or reduce? also as a beginnier.. after first 30 days, should i take next month off? and alternate months on month off like that from the beginning?

Also..i seem to have good control of the muscles (though right side may be exercised bit more than left so i'm trying to visualize left).. but i dont tend to feel much. i mean yes i feel something but no burn..nothing is hard to do.. and i enjoy doing them. should i increase reps? back off of anything?

the gaunt temples.. i read something about the jaw..is that the long-neck exercise? what about just massaging the area? pull roll?

THanks for any feedback. i think it will be obvious to me when there's a change in my cheeks.which are concave at the moment.
is it possible for my cheeks to develop fullness? and have a wider face? and for eyes that have had bags since i was a kid to become plump?
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Loulou is best to respond obviously, but I will share what I do. I do day 1 & 2 together (minus crush) every M, W, F. I massage those days as well. It will help lift the face! My left side is slow too. Read above the advice she gave me. HTH
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Okay like the poster above says, Loulou is best to answer your questions.

I think you may be doing too much too soon. The rest days are just as important as the workout days because that’s when the healing starts and the muscles grow stronger. So 7 days is stopping your face from healing up properly and becoming stronger.

The eye exercises will over time help with the hooded lids. However I think doing 7 days is too much – you need down time for the muscles to heal otherwise you simply exhaust them. Loulou may have other ideas but just my take on what I’ve done over the last 10 years. I’ve too been impatient and once tried exercising 3x a day (not Ageless – but about 10 years ago) in the hope I’d get faster results and it stopped the results coming.

Maybe stop altogether for a week to give your face rest and a break and then start up again but aim for 5 days a week with weekends off!

Month on month off isn’t a good idea. You want to be consistent but you want to have sufficient downtime. If you had health issues then maybe 5x a week would be too much but you don’t indicate you have so I’d bet that 5x should be sufficient. Also don’t forget massage. That is a real key to helping the face transform. I wish I had paid more attention when people were advising me in the early days to do so – I said I would and would forget just as quickly. When I got my butt kicked and told to do it – it really did help my face change.
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Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:06 pm      Reply with quote
Hi vandu,

the whole face moves up, as the supporting muscles tighten so that there's a marked increase in volume in the upper face as well as a noticeable lift to the lower face. The face also collapses inward with age and your sunken cheeks should flesh out as part of the process of tightening the dangling muscle

But if you're constantly tired and overtrained your muscles won't have the energy to hold your face in its new shape. It's like trying to make your body look good when you're slumped over with bad posture.

So Theresa Mary is spot on.... rest days are crucial to making your face healthier, brighter and younger.

Aam, thanks for your input too. Your schedule of doing the whole programme three times per week does allow for rest, but it's at the upper end of the useful range. If there are any signs of stress or tiredness on your face I'd suggest you take a week off, but it sounds pretty ideal for you and your needs.

All best, loulou 😋

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Agree with Theresa Mary. The Massage has made a biggggg difference, especially to my eyes. Loulou is right. I Just pull the skin about a bit or follow on the video and like I say my eyes look years younger 😀😃😄. Don't miss out the massage bit!!! Lenny
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Lenny that is great news.

You should achieve a fairly rapid Botox- like effect through the exercise alone, but the massage certainly speeds the process up, spurring the cells of the face into life and resulting in quicker results. You just need to be aware that your face may look overtrained and tired for a period before it flourishes. But it will flourish!

All best, Louise annette

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Lenny so should i pull on the thin delicate skin right under me eyes and the skin on and just above my lids? like tug on it a few times? roll it?

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Agree with Theresa Mary. The Massage has made a biggggg difference, especially to my eyes. Loulou is right. I Just pull the skin about a bit or follow on the video and like I say my eyes look years younger 😀😃😄. Don't miss out the massage bit!!! Lenny
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Thanks TheresaMary. i will take a week off. my upper lids aren't hooded..i've the opposite problem.. they grow more pronounced, and heavy over my eyes as the day goes on..or, sometimes it happens quickly based on what i eat. this happens since the skin just above the lid loses plumpness and becomes sunken.

Loulou, any idea about this one? why it happens? i see that most of the people i know..when they get tired..their eyes still look the same to me..the lids dont grow more noticable and eyes dont get sunken like happens to me. it's a very tired look... maybe more so than the hooded eyelid look. so..in the morning you can see some lid and the eyes looks better, brighter, except with bags. lol. but by mid-day and definilty by night the upper lids have a tendency to be more visible and my eyes more closed.

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Okay like the poster above says, Loulou is best to answer your questions.

I think you may be doing too much too soon. The rest days are just as important as the workout days because that’s when the healing starts and the muscles grow stronger. So 7 days is stopping your face from healing up properly and becoming stronger.

The eye exercises will over time help with the hooded lids. However I think doing 7 days is too much – you need down time for the muscles to heal otherwise you simply exhaust them.

Maybe stop altogether for a week to give your face rest and a break and then start up again but aim for 5 days a week with weekends off!
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