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Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:39 am      Reply with quote
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Could you possibly do a vid of your body exercises too? I'm all for this "Work Smarter - Not Harder" thing. You have our full attention! Very Happy
THANK YOU LOULOU!!!!! We love you!!


Ditto! Would love more info on the body exercises!
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Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:11 am      Reply with quote
Happy Happy Birthday Loulou,
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I have to chime in that vigorous massage of the skin makes a huge difference. I'm 45 and come from a family notorious for short necks and double chins. Combine that with losing a fairly large amount of weight, and there's no way that facial exercises alone are going to restore the tone of my neck and chest skin. I started massaging my neck and face vigorously twice a week for about 5 minutes and found it made a big difference to the thickness of my skin, much more quickly than anti-aging serums had.

I still do a twice weekly massage but now include my boobs and it takes about 10 minutes. Result? Thicker skin and firmer looking boobs. YAY!!! Don't get me wrong - it hasn't hoiked them back up to under my chin but it has made a difference. It doesn't take long and you can do it while watching tv or listening to music.
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Luckylouie that is so true. At FlexEffect we always tell people to incorporate massage into their routines. Deb used to attribute half her success rate to massage in addition to the exercises, which I used to tell people to try and encourage them to do it, but I know timing can be an issue for busy bods, but I always feel if you even do some massage when you apply your cleanser/moisturiser etc, then thats better than none at all. Loulou also details a massage in her book.

I also like to tell people not to forget the back of their hands with the massage (especially gentle pinchng and rolling). The skin there needs stimulation (and thickening) too!
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I still do a twice weekly massage but now include my boobs and it takes about 10 minutes. Result? Thicker skin and firmer looking boobs. YAY!!! Don't get me wrong - it hasn't hoiked them back up to under my chin but it has made a difference. It doesn't take long and you can do it while watching tv or listening to music.

LOL louie...yes massage is fun, and friends can help!

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Happy Birthday loulou well worth celebrating when you look so good Very Happy
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Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:29 pm      Reply with quote
Whoa...did I just read that massage can thicken the skin on the back of the hands????? Do you mean the pinching sort of LouLou massage? Might this also work in the crook of the arm (where my skin looks pretty desperate)?

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Whoa...did I just read that massage can thicken the skin on the back of the hands????? Do you mean the pinching sort of LouLou massage? Might this also work in the crook of the arm (where my skin looks pretty desperate)?


It will probably work anywhere!

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luckylouie wrote:
I still do a twice weekly massage but now include my boobs and it takes about 10 minutes. Result? Thicker skin and firmer looking boobs. YAY!!! Don't get me wrong - it hasn't hoiked them back up to under my chin but it has made a difference. It doesn't take long and you can do it while watching tv or listening to music.

LOL louie...yes massage is fun, and friends can help!


LOL...that was the first thing my gutter mind thought of! Laughing

And then I realized that I am single at the moment. Rolling Eyes

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bethany wrote:
fawnie wrote:
luckylouie wrote:
I still do a twice weekly massage but now include my boobs and it takes about 10 minutes. Result? Thicker skin and firmer looking boobs. YAY!!! Don't get me wrong - it hasn't hoiked them back up to under my chin but it has made a difference. It doesn't take long and you can do it while watching tv or listening to music.

LOL louie...yes massage is fun, and friends can help!


LOL...that was the first thing my gutter mind thought of! Laughing

And then I realized that I am single at the moment. Rolling Eyes


Well, if you start letting your friends massage your boobs you'll probably have guys knocking down your door Laughing
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bethany wrote:
fawnie wrote:
luckylouie wrote:
I still do a twice weekly massage but now include my boobs and it takes about 10 minutes. Result? Thicker skin and firmer looking boobs. YAY!!! Don't get me wrong - it hasn't hoiked them back up to under my chin but it has made a difference. It doesn't take long and you can do it while watching tv or listening to music.

LOL louie...yes massage is fun, and friends can help!


LOL...that was the first thing my gutter mind thought of! Laughing

And then I realized that I am single at the moment. Rolling Eyes


Well, if you start letting your friends massage your boobs you'll probably have guys knocking down your door Laughing


LMAO...you are probably right!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Luckylouie do you do like a pinching and rolling on the skin on the boobs?

Bugger, I too am newly single.... Rolling Eyes
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If I let my husband help it's going to take a lot longer than 10 minutes Very Happy Then again, the couple that plays together stays together. Actually there's a chinese qigong exercise called the deer (two versions, one for men and one for women) which includes massaging the breasts. It's often recommended that the man massages the womans breasts while she concentrates her efforts "down below". Here's a link:

www.healsa.co.za/deerexerwomen.htm

I've actually done this exercise in the past and if you do it consistently it does eliminate your periods.
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If I let my husband help it's going to take a lot longer than 10 minutes Very Happy Then again, the couple that plays together stays together. Actually there's a chinese qigong exercise called the deer (two versions, one for men and one for women) which includes massaging the breasts. It's often recommended that the man massages the womans breasts while she concentrates her efforts "down below". Here's a link:

www.healsa.co.za/deerexerwomen.htm

I've actually done this exercise in the past and if you do it consistently it does eliminate your periods.


Well, while we're on the subject....


There is a certain intimate activity that is very effective at strengthening the lower jaw/platysma and the buccinator muscles. Wink

Now that I have my new tongue piercing I'm betting my husband will be making even more frequent requests Rolling Eyes Laughing
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If I let my husband help it's going to take a lot longer than 10 minutes Very Happy Then again, the couple that plays together stays together. Actually there's a chinese qigong exercise called the deer (two versions, one for men and one for women) which includes massaging the breasts. It's often recommended that the man massages the womans breasts while she concentrates her efforts "down below". Here's a link:

www.healsa.co.za/deerexerwomen.htm

I've actually done this exercise in the past and if you do it consistently it does eliminate your periods.



This is unbelievable.
I wonder if I could stay looking this age for ever????
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If I let my husband help it's going to take a lot longer than 10 minutes Very Happy Then again, the couple that plays together stays together. Actually there's a chinese qigong exercise called the deer (two versions, one for men and one for women) which includes massaging the breasts. It's often recommended that the man massages the womans breasts while she concentrates her efforts "down below". Here's a link:

www.healsa.co.za/deerexerwomen.htm

I've actually done this exercise in the past and if you do it consistently it does eliminate your periods.


Excerpted from the above link:

"Doing this exercise will correct menstrual irregularities. It will eliminate menstrual cramps and strengthen sexual ability. If you do the exercise with more than the recommended minimum of thirty-six hand rotations twice a day, — as much as 360 times twice a day — you can stop menstruation totally. But on one condition. You must not let your thoughts wander to other matters.

When doing the Deer Exercise, it is important to concentrate on the divine purpose, as it is very easy to become sexually stimulated
."

(Insert expletive here)! They totally had me up 'til this point Sad
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Geez, my post is going to be SO mundane after those, sigh. But I did think that this is worth sharing...

The last 2+ years or so my upper eyelids really started to droop...to the point that my eyeliner would smudge up onto my lower brow area throughout the day, and leave a line. Rolling Eyes My plastic surgeon even told me a year ago that I was definitely a candidate for an upper and lower bleph.

I started dermarolling in May of 2008, and have definitely seen a lifting of my eyelids to some degree..a very welcome change. But it was not a hugely dramatic change, if you know what I mean.

But tonight when I was doing my skin stuff, I suddenly noticed that my eyelids were greatly lifted...there is NO WAY that my eyeliner could leave a mark on my lower brow unless I physically PUSHED my upper eyelid up there! Shock Shock Shock And this is even after I have taken in WAY too much sodium over the last few days and have some significant puffiness from fluid retention.

For the curious, I started Ageless on 11/8, so it has been about 6 weeks. And no, I did NOT do any exercises tonight.

Honestly, I am floored. And thrilled. And DAMN HAPPY that I spent $10 bucks on Ageless.

WOO HOO for ME and THANK YOU to LOULOU!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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I am still so happy I can't stand it...I was actually planning on looking into getting an eye lift this summer if I met my weight goals!

Drat...I think I am too excited to go to sleep now. Embarassed

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bethany wrote:
Geez, my post is going to be SO mundane after those, sigh. But I did think that this is worth sharing...

The last 2+ years or so my upper eyelids really started to droop...to the point that my eyeliner would smudge up onto my lower brow area throughout the day, and leave a line. Rolling Eyes My plastic surgeon even told me a year ago that I was definitely a candidate for an upper and lower bleph.

I started dermarolling in May of 2008, and have definitely seen a lifting of my eyelids to some degree..a very welcome change. But it was not a hugely dramatic change, if you know what I mean.

But tonight when I was doing my skin stuff, I suddenly noticed that my eyelids were greatly lifted...there is NO WAY that my eyeliner could leave a mark on my lower brow unless I physically PUSHED my upper eyelid up there! Shock Shock Shock And this is even after I have taken in WAY too much sodium over the last few days and have some significant puffiness from fluid retention.

For the curious, I started Ageless on 11/8, so it has been about 6 weeks. And no, I did NOT do any exercises tonight.

Honestly, I am floored. And thrilled. And DAMN HAPPY that I spent $10 bucks on Ageless.

WOO HOO for ME and THANK YOU to LOULOU!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy



Bethany I've got Eva Fraser's facial workout and also flex effect, but I found both to be too time consuming.

Eva Fraser's is supposed to be 10 mins long but it takes way longer than that, and well you know how long flex effect takes.

Anyway I've only been doing 5 exercises for the last 18 months for the areas that I really needed. One of these is the upper eyelid exercise of Eva Fraser's, but with a flex effect twist of doing 10 reps holding for a count of 6. Anyway, I haven't had any upper lid droop pretty much since I started and I was definately badly on the way.

Facial exercises WORK there's no doubt about it. And I love the combination of exercises of Loulou's. I've just started doing hers and keeping with the ones I've been doing.

Looking forward to even better results, and no doubt you will become even more happy as time goes on. Very Happy
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I absolutely love LouLou's upper lid exercise. The way she recommends to grab upper lids is very effective! When I started doing it, I could feel tiny muscles hurt after exercises, the muscles that did not hurt before.
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I absolutely love LouLou's upper lid exercise. The way she recommends to grab upper lids is very effective! When I started doing it, I could feel tiny muscles hurt after exercises, the muscles that did not hurt before.


I have only done the exercises 4 times so far, but I do not have muscle soreness. Does that mean I am not doing something correctly?
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Rileygirl, I don't feel anything with these eye exercises either. The only one that I feel (to the extent that I can only do 15 reps) is the exercise where LL says pull in your cheeks like you're crushing fruit and hold it for a count of ten. That one kills me.

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Rileygirl, I don't feel anything with these eye exercises either. The only one that I feel (to the extent that I can only do 15 reps) is the exercise where LL says pull in your cheeks like you're crushing fruit and hold it for a count of ten. That one kills me.


Thanks, Antonia. It helps to hear that not everyone has the soreness!
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Rileygirl, I don't feel anything with these eye exercises either. The only one that I feel (to the extent that I can only do 15 reps) is the exercise where LL says pull in your cheeks like you're crushing fruit and hold it for a count of ten. That one kills me.


Thanks, Antonia. It helps to hear that not everyone has the soreness!


No eye soreness here either, though it is not for lack of trying!

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mpstat wrote:
I absolutely love LouLou's upper lid exercise. The way she recommends to grab upper lids is very effective! When I started doing it, I could feel tiny muscles hurt after exercises, the muscles that did not hurt before.


I have only done the exercises 4 times so far, but I do not have muscle soreness. Does that mean I am not doing something correctly?

I have been doing facial exercises for a while and with LouLou's eye exercise I hit some eye muscles that were not actively involved before. I could feel it especially well when touched the area with my fingers. Pressure from the fingers magnified soreness feeling.
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