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Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:32 pm  |
Hello wonderful forum who answers all my questions:
I am re-starting Obagi Nu-Derm after a 6 month hiatus (due to $$ issues). Anyway, I have read some negative things about hydroquinone but I loved the results the Obagi Nu-Derm system gave me the first time around. I just noticed that Obagi now makes a Clear FX and a Blender FX (both sold @ EDS) which do not contain hydroquinone.
I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with these products and if anyone has any opinion on whether or not I can get the same fabulous results with them as with the regular Clear and Blender?
I do have some SLIGHT hyperpigmentation on my upper lip but that's not the reason I'm re-starting Obagi. I basically loved the smoothness and clarity of tone/texture that Obagi gave my face. I was glowing!
Anyone wanna chime in? I'd appreciate it. Thanks!! |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:42 pm |
I have not used the FX products, but they are not new. They have been around for years, and were made for markets outside the US.
Let us know if you try it! |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:47 pm |
| Does anyone know what ingredient they substitute for the Hydroquinone? I wonder if it is Kojic Acid. |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:55 pm |
It is Arbutin instead of Hydroquione
Arbutin is both an ether and a glycoside; a glycosylated benzoquinone extracted from bearberry plant in the genus Arctostaphylos. It inhibits tyrosinase and thus prevents the formation of melanin. Arbutin is therefore used as a skin-lightening agent. Arbutin is also found in wheat, and is concentrated in pear skins.
Arbutin is glucosylated hydroquinone,[1] and may carry similar cancer risks,[2] although there are also claims that arbutin reduces cancer risk.[3] The German Institute of Food Research in Potsdam found that intestinal bacteria can transform arbutin into hydroquinone, which creates an environment favourable for intestinal cancer. It is known that the body excretes 64-75% of arbutin in urine, and arbutin converted to hydroquinone has an antibacterial effect in the urinary tract, hence the use of bearberry in herbal medicine, but it is not known why this substance plays a role in cancer development.
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:22 pm |
| Very interesting. I wonder how it compares in efficacy! If anyoine has used this, please let us know! I would guess that hydroquinone still works better but that is just a guess. |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:04 pm |
| I think if you are going to use the hydroquinone short term for the 18 weeks of the Obagi Nuderm treatment regime, it should not increase your risk of cancer that signficantly. As you don't have a major problem with pigmentation, you can consider leaving out hydroquinone in the maintenance regime. |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:52 pm |
| m1rox wrote: |
| I think if you are going to use the hydroquinone short term for the 18 weeks of the Obagi Nuderm treatment regime, it should not increase your risk of cancer that signficantly. As you don't have a major problem with pigmentation, you can consider leaving out hydroquinone in the maintenance regime. |
I agree. I do not think using Obagi for 18 weeks will increase cancer risk. Also, you can do some research into the Hydroquinone. The studies done used an orally ingested Hydroquinone, and also used extremely high percentages, way above the 4%. But, this is a very personal issue and you will be the one to make the decision if it is right for you.
You may be able to get away with not using the Clear on maintenance, but I would suggest backing it off to 2 times a week to see how your skin continues to look. I also would strongly advise you continue to use the Blender on maintenance (along with the Retin A). |
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:05 pm |
| Riley girl. Did your pores tighten on Obagi? If so, how long did it take? |
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Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:56 am |
| Sorry, amonavis, I can't help you with that. I don't have any visible pores. |
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Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:28 am |
lucky! are you genetically blessed or is there a procedure we should all know about  |
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Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:02 am |
I guess I am genetically blessed in that department! No procedures. But, I have my own "issues". I have wrinkles.  I would much rather have oily skin and pore issues!  |
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Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:10 am |
I am sure it's not that bad! At least there is botox nowadays  Aren't we lucky we werent born 100 years ago when we did not have any of this stuff?  |
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