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Thu May 07, 2009 10:01 am |
Vanilj wrote: |
Have I understood it correctly, that this device don't permanently remove the hair growth - just put it in "sleep", and the time vary individually, before it grows back again? |
Good question I was wondering the same thing. |
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Thu May 07, 2009 1:12 pm |
majorb wrote: |
Keli, I'm following your updates with great interest.
I've very recently bought the Boots Smooth Skin IPL device, and the instructions say to perform treatments once a week for 12 weeks.
How often does TRIA recommend their treatments should take place? And do they give an expected number of treatments necessary?
I'm very keen to compare the performance on these various devices, to see if we can discover which seems to work best. |
The Tria recommends you do a treatment every 3 to 4 weeks. I do my treatments once a month. They say that you should acheive maximum hair loss by about 12 treatments. Then all you'll need is a treatment here or their to target any stragglers maybe once or twice a year. |
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Thu May 07, 2009 1:15 pm |
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Oh no I should have never opened this topic now I HAVE to get one of these. When I shave my underarms it still looks like I have hair under there, because my hair is black and it is embarrasing sometimes. I have been wanting laser hair removal to help with this and I think the Tria will be my answer from your reviews. Where do you recommend purchasing it from? |
I purchased mine from QVC because they usually offer it on a payment plan with no interest called easy pay. I am making 5 monthly payments with no interest and my shipping was free. I've already made 4 payments. I have one left to go. The average price of the Tria is $799.99 |
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Thu May 07, 2009 1:19 pm |
Vanilj wrote: |
Have I understood it correctly, that this device don't permanently remove the hair growth - just put it in "sleep", and the time vary individually, before it grows back again? |
The Tria removes hair permanently just like professional laser treatments do. No sleeping hair. Your hair normally goes to sleep in cycles naturally. The reason you only do 1 treatment a month is to catch the hairs at differnt times during their growth cycle. The hair follicle will not die while it's in the sleep mode. Here's an article about the different cycles of hair growth.
http://www.hairremovallaser.com/hair_growth_cycles.htm |
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Fri May 08, 2009 3:25 am |
keli13 wrote: |
Vanilj wrote: |
Have I understood it correctly, that this device don't permanently remove the hair growth - just put it in "sleep", and the time vary individually, before it grows back again? |
The Tria removes hair permanently just like professional laser treatments do. No sleeping hair. Your hair normally goes to sleep in cycles naturally. The reason you only do 1 treatment a month is to catch the hairs at differnt times during their growth cycle. The hair follicle will not die while it's in the sleep mode. Here's an article about the different cycles of hair growth.
http://www.hairremovallaser.com/hair_growth_cycles.htm |
Ok, thanks for that article.
Do you btw, know if it for use only in the US? I live in Sweden and we of course do not have the same power adapters.. did it come along different kinds of adapters to the unit? |
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Fri May 08, 2009 9:34 am |
keli13 wrote: |
The Tria recommends you do a treatment every 3 to 4 weeks. I do my treatments once a month. They say that you should acheive maximum hair loss by about 12 treatments. Then all you'll need is a treatment here or their to target any stragglers maybe once or twice a year. |
Thanks, keli.
Good luck, and may the best machine win!
(Hope we both get good results.) |
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bevglossylips
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Sat May 09, 2009 6:58 am |
Hi Keli
I have been following this as i nearly purchased a tria myself, i then found out however, that it couldn't be used on facial area's so i decided against it. I'm still on the lookout for something which can remove facial hair and was wondering if you have had any reactions etc from using the tria on your face?
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Danus
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Sat May 09, 2009 5:25 pm |
Okay, first post here - been lurking a while. I've been trying a million different products suggested on these forums so I figure I should start reviewing what has worked and hasn't worked for me.
TRIAAAA! I reluctantly\excitedly purchased the Tria a week-ish ago. My thought process was that I've seen a lot of positive feedback on it and if my calculations are correct, it will be a lot more economical then going to a professional and paying for multiple treatments. If it doesn't work, live and learn~
I received my Tria on Tuesday of this week. You have to go on the Tria website in order to activate your death ray before you start zapping away so I went on and typed in the serial number at the bottom of it aand.. didn't work. It said it was already registered and activated (yet it didn't work.)
The following morning, I called the Tria help line thingy and I talked to a really friendly girl who said that they are having problems with the online activation and are now just suggesting people call to activate it. It literally took like two minutes of talking to her to get it all set up and be done with it so I'd suggest just skipping the online thing and calling directly.
The Tria itself is not at all super heavy but I'd say it's heavy-ish. I mean, I'm not exactly the strongest guy around but I can't say I'm feeble but I can definitely say that it probably can get annoying if you're trying to do your whole leg.
OKAY! My death ray is activated. I initially bought Tria to use on my arms so I shaved a test patch on the upper part of my arm, zapped it a few times, and waited 24 hours to see if my skin would melt off (it didn't.)
Initial observations:
1. I bought Tria to pretty much focus purely on my arms but by my calculations, I'm going to have a lot of charge left even after doing like 10 treatments on each arm.
2. I was able to do half of my arm on highest setting with one charge (so a total of four to do one complete cycle - duh :] )
3. I've definitely noticed that the level of pain varies depending on level of hair growth. If there is more dense\course hair growth and you're using the highest setting, it does definitely get a good jolt out of you. With the highest setting on areas with lesser growth, you'll either feel just a little heat to a tiny prickle. I'm a pretty resilient guy and I figure that if it's doing its job, the amount of pain doesn't really matter.
4. By the time my Tria had recharged (about 2 1/2 - 3 hours later) and I was ready to do the next part, the redness on where I had already done it had all but gone away. I felt no residual pain. This is great because even with waxing and showering afterward or the next day, I would always have some kind of irritation when showering.
5. I found it difficult to use the Tria on areas that are more... uhm, boney? Haha~ like around my wrist area you've got that little bone that sticks out. The 3 Tria sensors need to all be on the skin at the same time so if there is any kind of strange elevation, it's hard for the sensors to pick up that you're in the right place. This was also difficult to do on toes. I have a little hair growth there and I had a little charge left over from one of the arm ones so I figured I'd zap those out. A good method that I've found in order for the sensor to pick up what you're doing for problem areas like that is to put one of your fingers on one of the sensors that is not being picked up (near the edge of it) and then to position the Tria so that the other two hit the skin and zap where you need it. I'm not sure if this is entirely safe or not but it helped with reaching those spots.
6. After one full treatment on both arms, I can honestly say that my skin does look better. I had some strange discoloration from years of shaving and waxing but that seems to have gone away and it 'looks' smoother. The hair is still there, obviously, but my skin looks better after the first treatment.
For those of you that are in the process of treating larger areas like legs\arms\chest\back\whatev, how do keep reminders of what areas you've zapped and haven't? The manual mentions that you should be zapping a 1 square inch area 25 times but short of drawing out an entire map on your skin, what ways have you found in keeping it accurate? I thought about purchasing some kind of fleshtoned crayon kind of thing and then creating a grid system on my arms so I can accurately treat myself each time. This may not even be a thought process for anyone else, to do this, but I'm incredibly anal about wanting to do things right with beauty related products haha.
So where I'm at now is I'm waiting for the 2 week point where I guess all the hair that I zapped is supposed to fall out because the skin is pushing it out now.
One other thing that I have a question about is that I read somewhere that you're supposed to do your first three treatments in two week intervals and then every treatment after that should be monthly - does anyone know the validity behind this? I don't remember where I read it :/
I know that the Tria has not been approved for use on the face in America but I've been reading about a lot of people who have been doing it. I don't know if even I have the balls to start zapping off any of my facial hair but have any of you tried that?
Anyhow, I'll keep you all updated on my progress over time to see how effective it is so you can avoid purchasing it if ends up sucking. If there are any of you who are considering buying the Tria but have questions about it, feel free to ask and I'll answer based off my experience with it.
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Wed May 13, 2009 7:11 am |
Hi Danus,
Please let us know how the treatment goes in time and , I am just trying to figure out how efficient the TRIA laser is. I am looking into buying one myself, but the only thing stopping me is that fact that the TRIa is only supposed to last for about 250 charges. So then... it won't last forever, but le's face it, what does?
However, if it only lasts for 250 charges, then would it not 'run out of steam', so to speak,before I finish the treatment on my legs, arms etc? |
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Wed May 13, 2009 2:29 pm |
happycat01 wrote: |
Hi Danus,
Please let us know how the treatment goes in time and , I am just trying to figure out how efficient the TRIA laser is. I am looking into buying one myself, but the only thing stopping me is that fact that the TRIa is only supposed to last for about 250 charges. So then... it won't last forever, but le's face it, what does?
However, if it only lasts for 250 charges, then would it not 'run out of steam', so to speak,before I finish the treatment on my legs, arms etc? |
I found a forum that discussed this and a TRIA contact advised: "Each laser is capable of delivering over 90,000 laser pulses (300 charges with each charge delivering 300 laser pulses). This is sufficient for most women to treat the whole body."
I think 90,000 laser pulses is definitely worth the price of the unit if it's effective! |
_________________ Asian, 32, normal to dry skin, broken caps |
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Sat May 16, 2009 11:54 am |
So I got my Tria today and used it on my left arm (okay no patch test I know I am one of those can not wait types .)...well started with low setting and went on to the highest no problems...But It took me almost an hour to just do this one arm...zap zap zap...I was letting the hair grow on arms for it ...oh and tried the left under arm ...yikes it hurts on the lowest setting will use emla to numb it and then clean the area and zap it...but am too tired now so will do it tomorrow with right arm and underarms....will keep you guys posted .... |
_________________ Acne-prone skin ,Olive Complexion, using Derma pen ( MYM) ,Used LS & STOP,Got POSE and never used it.. Also got TRIA never used it...Microcurrent Tx and added Facial Detox massage and CP serum so far its pretty good |
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Sun May 17, 2009 4:23 am |
yk28chan wrote: |
happycat01 wrote: |
Hi Danus,
Please let us know how the treatment goes in time and , I am just trying to figure out how efficient the TRIA laser is. I am looking into buying one myself, but the only thing stopping me is that fact that the TRIa is only supposed to last for about 250 charges. So then... it won't last forever, but le's face it, what does?
However, if it only lasts for 250 charges, then would it not 'run out of steam', so to speak,before I finish the treatment on my legs, arms etc? |
I found a forum that discussed this and a TRIA contact advised: "Each laser is capable of delivering over 90,000 laser pulses (300 charges with each charge delivering 300 laser pulses). This is sufficient for most women to treat the whole body."
I think 90,000 laser pulses is definitely worth the price of the unit if it's effective! |
Yeah, I was thinking about this myself when I first bought it and if it lasts as long as they say it does, you should have enough to pretty much do your entire body. Let's do some math here:
To do both of my arms, it took me 4 charges.
(4 charges, 2 per arm, 2 total treatments)
My arms are pretty hairy + course so I imagine if you don't have as much hair growth, it might only take you one per arm. They say you need, what, 8 treatments to pretty much be done, ya?
(32 charges, 16 per arm)
*218 charges left*
My legs are moderately hairy and based off the area that it took for my arms, let's say it would take 4 charges per leg for me to get a full treatment. Adding in the 8 treatments...
(64 charges, 32 per leg)
*154 charges left*
I am also reading about people using this on their face and although it is not FDA approved in America, it is in other places (I can't back this up with any specific proof but from the random comments I've seen from people, their skin hasn't reacted any different then any of the hair elsewhere on their body; one thing to note is that if you have dense\course hair growth, it's probably gonna sting really bad... but hey, a few hours later and the redness and pain will be gone.)
So let's add in me using this on my face. I'm going to say that it would probably take 2 or 3 charges to span over my entire beard area. I think this would be an accurate hypothesis based off the area I've covered before.
(16 to 24 charges, 8 per... face *haha*)
*138 to 130 charges left*
Okay... running out of places to zap...
How about underarms? I definitely think 1 charge per underarm would be more then enough.
(16 charges, 8 per underarm)
*122 to 114 charges left*
Mind you that I estimate that each charge lasts me about 30 minutes each. I know this because I was watching Hulu episodes of Family Guy while I was doing it and my charge pretty much went from start to finish of the episode.
30 minutes per charge x 128 charges total = 3,840 minutes total = 64 hours total = 2 & 2/3 days of zapping.
So... it's going to be time consuming to do it all but 1. it's worth it and 2. it's MUCH faster then those home electrolysis $30 things (I severely burned my arm trying one of those once and although I did knock out some of the hairs, it took such a long time and most of the time, I didn't even know what I was doing. Luckily, I only have a few bumps of scarring from doing it. Even funnier, the Tria seems to have eliminated 75% of those scars.)
I would have a little under 50% charges left over and I have would then have run out of hair to zap. I am assuming spot treatment might be necessary, over time, so you use it for that.
Experience will dictate whether or not these calculations will mean anything but I intend to find out (not that I've decided to zap my entire body but we'll see how the arms do!)
OKAY - NEARLY 2 WEEK PROGRESS UPDATE:
I have been kind of skeptical as to whether or not anything was even happening and I started getting a little bit down and thinking about. I had an itch on my arm and I noticed a small patch of dry skin surrounding one of the hairs. I scratched it a little and I noticed that the hair dislodged while I was doing that.
A glimmer of hope ooh~
I went into the bathroom and pulled out my tweezers and I started to gently pull at a few of the hairs on my arm and lo' and behold, they slid out without any kind of pain or resistance whatsoever. This has absolutely floored me and I started going on a small rampage pulling out at least 50 hairs (this doesn't mean that only 50 hairs were effected but rather that it's 6am and I want to go to sleep instead of tweezing myself into a coma.)
Anyhow, it's doing exactly like they said it would. I don't remember what the specific technical words behind all this but from what I gather, everything underneath the hair gets zapped and then the body pretty much ejects it out.
It's really funny because I can totally tell which areas I got well and which I didn't. When I was using Tria on my arm, I would kind of go in a circle around my arm. I noticed that if I followed that path with the tweezers, all the hairs came out effortlessly in that pattern. But then I also noticed that if I moved over a little left and right, some of the hairs were still giving off some resistance. I'm assuming I missed these ones as I have a hard time remembering where I left off. I'm thinking of drawing a grid on my arms next time I do it in order to potentially get the best results possible. On the one hand, it's efficient and thrifty with the charges; on the other, it's pretty much going to be lolworthy me drawing 1 sq inch boxes all over my arms.
I've been reading more about suggested times as to when you should do your second treatment and most say within 2 - 4 weeks after previous treatment. I'm thinking of calling the Tria tech support thing and asking them if it would be more effective to do it later or not. I'm not sure what exactly the wait time in between zaps is supposed to be for... maybe just for it to eject the hair to a certain point or entirely? Healing process (despite having zero discomfort or visible evidence that anything was going on during that time?)
If they give me the go on doing it at 2 weeks, I have the day off on Monday so I'll probably spend the day charging and zapping.
Okay, that's all for me now. I'll give you all another update either after I do my next treatment or if I suddenly wake up one morning with bald arms and a wad of hair in my mouth.
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Sun May 17, 2009 12:05 pm |
It sounds like the Tria is doing a good job. I have had IPL treatment on some areas and the hairs usually started to come out after 10-14 days, so it looks like the same is happening with tria.
Thanks for doing the maths by the way, it was really helpful and it makes sense i suppose.
I am kind of torn between Tria and Boots smooth skin, but I have to say I have not much faith in the Boots device. |
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Sat May 30, 2009 4:01 am |
Hope you don't mind a lurker joining in on this topic girls
Keli ...I just wanted to say thank you for your feedback on the TRIA. I found this thread searching GOOGLE before I dive in and buy this. Although it says not to use on the face I thought well why not if its the same light as the salons and half of me was willing to try it because my facial hairs get me down although my partner says its in my mind you can't really put a price on confidence can you if it works.
I read its once a week for a month though then once monthly.
Can I ask a question ...obviously when you shave any part of your body like underarms you get little black spots do these also disappear like with salon treatment.
Also did everyone buy from TRIA direct? Do they do offers every month? I see they have one on now but I won't be buying quite yet.
I'm so nervous buying this and my partner is having a panic attack lol Also not happy about the '30 day' money back promise when they say it can longer to notice difference although my sking type is perfect for this apparantly.
Thanks for reading and answering if you can help me x |
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Danus
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Sat May 30, 2009 10:20 pm |
MummyOf2 wrote: |
I read its once a week for a month though then once monthly. |
Do you know where you read this? The Tria website says once every two weeks for the first three months and then once every month after that.
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Can I ask a question ...obviously when you shave any part of your body like underarms you get little black spots do these also disappear like with salon treatment. |
I've never had salon treatment so I can't compare but the process goes that you shave the spot, zap it, and then a week or two later the hair falls out from that spot. You are not left with any black spots. Obviously, when the hair is growing back from parts you've missed or parts you need to do again, you will still see the hair spot.
Quick update on my progress:
I did my second treatment last week. This time, I was much more thorough with the process. In total, I did 4 rounds of zapping per arm. This definitely took a lot longer then the previous treatment but I wanted to see the difference between how I did it before and this time.
In terms of pain, it was definitely a bit less. I think I want to attribute this to either that I got a closer shave this time or that the hairs that were there before got zapped and didn't grow back within the two weeks. I'm not sure really.
Hair growth has definitely slowed down in the areas that I treated. I can also notice spots that I miss because there are patches where the hair is growing faster then the rest.
Another treatment next Sunday. Will keep you all updated. |
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Sun May 31, 2009 1:55 am |
My mistake it is every 2 weeks for the first 3 months I was sure I read Keli thought it was once a month fom start :0) Thanks for that Danus.
Interesting to see your arm progess I want to this but am first having laser done to remove a couple of tattoos from one arm and you can't use it over tats blergh. Wonder if using a concealer would help.
On only a 2nd treatment would you say so far your happy Danus? |
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Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:31 am |
bevglossylips wrote: |
Hi Keli
I have been following this as i nearly purchased a tria myself, i then found out however, that it couldn't be used on facial area's so i decided against it. I'm still on the lookout for something which can remove facial hair and was wondering if you have had any reactions etc from using the tria on your face?
Thanks
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I've had no reactions at all from using the Tria on my face. I even use it on the highest setting and it does not hurt or irritate my face at all. I love it !! My chin hairs are completely gone. I still have a few upper lip hairs I need to get rid of. |
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Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:46 am |
MummyOf2 wrote: |
Hope you don't mind a lurker joining in on this topic girls
Keli ...I just wanted to say thank you for your feedback on the TRIA. I found this thread searching GOOGLE before I dive in and buy this. Although it says not to use on the face I thought well why not if its the same light as the salons and half of me was willing to try it because my facial hairs get me down although my partner says its in my mind you can't really put a price on confidence can you if it works.
I read its once a week for a month though then once monthly.
Can I ask a question ...obviously when you shave any part of your body like underarms you get little black spots do these also disappear like with salon treatment.
Also did everyone buy from TRIA direct? Do they do offers every month? I see they have one on now but I won't be buying quite yet.
I'm so nervous buying this and my partner is having a panic attack lol Also not happy about the '30 day' money back promise when they say it can longer to notice difference although my sking type is perfect for this apparantly.
Thanks for reading and answering if you can help me x |
I've been using it once a month except on my face more often because I'm just real busy right now so I've been doing one area of my body a week and rotating. I could do it more often but don't have the time. It is fast though. My problem is that I only shave once a week and you need to do the treatments after you shave. Once I finish a leg I need to recharge for a few hours and by that time I'm doing something else around the house. It's summer and I have a ton of projects around the house right now. I'll treat the second leg on week two, my bikini line on week three, and on week four my face, underarms and any other small areas.
I bought mine at QVC. They have specials once a month where you get 5 monthly payments, no interest. That made it easier to afford as I could pay for it a little each month. The price was the same as everywhere else. I think it's $795.00 or something like that. I bought mine in February so it'll be paid off this month. I do know one lady who bought it from QVC called and complained that 30 days wasn't enough time to decide if she'd like it so they extended their policy for her to 60 days but you need to ask.
I really didn't notice much hair loss until treatment three.
Yes the dark spots on my underarms are going away as the hair follicle underneath dies. My dark spots under my arms are not as dark as many ladies are. I'm a dark blond so I'm sure someone who's a brunette or who is a certain nationality or color would have more apparent hair follicles. |
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Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:30 am |
Thanks Keli
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except on my face more often |
Just wondering how often is more often? Have I read that right.
Underarms are terrible I hate it so im looking forward to using this there.
I'm from the UK so the price here is £675 gbp I noticed QVC had it to pay off but QVC UK don't so I was gutted and paying it straight out in one go *gulp* kind of wish I wasn't because if I had a problem I'd refuse to pay and return
Well I have decided 100% I am buying the TRIA. Im doing a review of it on my parenting forum I own and I'd be happy to update here too for others.
I fit perfect she said ...pale skinned and brown hair.
We'll see. I just need the nerves to enter my card details today some time haha |
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Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:53 am |
I got professional hair laser removal and I rocks. However, there were some hairs that didn't get zapped and those are the ones that are coming back haunting me! I would like to get this to treat those rather than keep going back to get them lasered and who knows if it is in the right cycle of growth to zap them!? |
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Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:03 pm |
MummyOf2 wrote: |
Keli13 wrote: |
except on my face more often |
Thanks Keli.
Just wondering how often is more often? Have I read that right. |
Every two to three weeks instead of once a month. I want my facial hair gone more than anything else. I'm alot more patient with my body. I don't want to waste the battery doing treatments that don't matter because those hairs are still in the same cycle of growth as they were two weeks ago. There really is no way to know other than each cycle is about a month.
If you google "hair growth cycles " you can read all about how your hair grows and how long each cycle is. Every month you will be targeting different hairs. This is something you can't rush.
I can't wait to hear from you in the next few months as you start to see your hair disappear.
Keep us posted. |
_________________ Age 45, caucasian, normal - combination skin, dedicated Renova user. |
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:58 am |
Thats intersting to know like you would prefer to see my facial hair vanish in fact if thats the only thing this TRIA works on and nothing else I wouldn't care lol I am embarrassed to go to a salon so this just seems soooo ideal and adding costs up including travel its cheaper IF it works
When you use the TRIA do you have to let the hair grow or can you remove the same way you did on other areas like under arms I shave every day is this still ok?
Sorry for the questions but very thankful for your answers. I did not get round to ordering yesterday but hoping to by end of today ...
I will definately login my thoughts on the TRIA. Your thread helped me when I found it.
Should I add to this one or create my own thread? |
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:04 am |
Sorry Keri one more Q if you don't mind how long before your facial hair reduction was noticeable to the eye |
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:49 am |
TRIA purchased!!!
I am so nervous about spending this amount of money (£675 gbp).
Should be here by Friday tops yikes!! |
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angelina27
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Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:12 am |
Hi Everyone,
I just bought my TRIA a month a go and it's been 2 weeks since my first treatment. I'm using it mainly for facial hair (although I know is not recommended). About 10 days after treatment some of the hairs did start to eject, and those that did have not grown back. I wasn't very thorough the first time, the pain was hard to get used to on setting 3, so i'm hoping to see more results in the next treatments as i've heard that's where you start to see the best results. It is encouraging though just to see some of the hair not growing back, and others taking longer to come in.
My question if anyone might know,Is it okay to pluck after using Tria? or do you need to let the hair eject itself naturally for it to work? |
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