Detoxification: Ionizing Footbaths
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enjoys freebies · Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:54 pm Quote

Does anyone else on here use ionizing footbaths? I tried on at my chiropractor's office and liked it so much I bought one for myself. The footbath really helps puffiness in my face, along with all the benefits of detoxification. I've had my gallbladder removed and the water always turns orange.

The first time I used the footbath, the water was all kinds of colors-- I had 45+ years of toxic matter in my system. There are different colors which indicate which organs and/or toxins are being affected. The following website gives a good primer on the footbath:

http://ionicdetoxfootbath.com/

Anyway, I just did one tonight, the first time in a few months, and the water was pretty nasty. But my face looks fabulous.

enjoys freebies · Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:27 pm Quote

I found this quote to be a little disturbing:

Quote:

It is important to understand that the water will change color and particles may form even if the unit is operating without feet in the water! This is because of the fact that the color change and objects in the water can be caused by so many factors: for example, the consumption of the metal inside the array; the sea salt added; substances leaving your body through your feet; dissolved material or toxins already present in the local water supply you are using; and even the air surrounding the spa water!

Editing to Add: I am always open to learning about new alternative things, and this does sound very cool. Though I would personally hate to see my feet submersed in sludge. Embarassed

In the spirit of full disclosure, I did want to share this article I just read:

http://www.spaindex.com/Articles/IonicScam.htm

enjoys freebies · Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:18 am Quote

It might be a hoax.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/14/detoxifying-foot-pads-are-a-scam.aspx

enjoys freebies · Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:44 am Quote

Hi Bethany

The following is from:

http://www.naturesstorehouse.com/ionization.html

"Edited by Herbert Eller, Ph.D.

Dr. Herbert Eller uses the Urine/Saliva test to measure a person's body chemistry (sugar 1.5;PH 6.4/6.4;salt 6 to 7; albumen .04m; urea 3/3). This test yields the proper information to analyze mathematically the body chemistry. It makes it possible to detect, with remarkable accuracy, the locations and the severity of most physical maladies. Based on this analysis, he is able to prepare a specific, individualized diet designed to promote excellent health.

How is energy created from the food we eat? As explained in the Biological Theory of Ionization, the process of ionization is the LAW OF PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER AND TAKING THEM APART, ION BY ION. An “anion” is an ion with a negative charge and a “cation” is an ion with a positive charge. The electrons in the outer orbit of an anion move in a different manner from the electrons in the outer orbit of a cation. In the human body, the clash of anionic and cationic foods gives off energy; that is, the resistance between these orbiting anionic and cationic molecules in the human body actually creates the necessary energy for good health.

After years of testing hundreds of foods, it was found that most foods are cationic. Liver bile is anionic. The minerals calcium, potassium, and chlorine are also anionic. The pH is the measure of resistance between cationic and anionic in the body. If the pH reading is 6.4/6.4 for urine and saliva, a person is getting maximum energy from the food he is eating. If the number is either higher or lower than is desired (over a long period time), too much energy is being lost, and illness begins.

Degenerative diseases are caused by a mineral deficiency in the cell structure of the affected organ or gland and the loss of reserve energy results. If, for example, the liver is deficient in calcium, it might produce only 50% of the anionic bile needed in the body, thereby throwing off the pH balance.

If one is deficient in potassium in the brain, or manganese in the reproductive organs, or copper, iron, or zinc in the colon, the cells cannot produce the normal amount of energy and will die prematurely. These DYING CELLS are called CARCINOMA, and the DEAD CELLS we call CANCER. Fungus and bacteria often invade these areas. Then, like a rotten apple in a barrel of good apples, the nearby healthy cells are affected. Decayed flesh is the complete loss of reserve energy.

Urea is the undigested protein in the body. If it registers higher than 313 or a total of 6, there is too much urea in the blood. This condition occurs because the heart has been beating too hard, not too fast. One warning sign is being fatigued when you awake in the morning after a normal amount of sleep and rest. Another sign is deep wrinkles in the forehead. High urea can be caused from drinking water in areas where too much nitrogen fertilizer is used, such as the plains of the Midwest. Another cause is drinking too little water. One should drink half his/her body weight in ounces of water each day. If a person weighs 100 pounds. for instance, he or she should drink 50 ounces of water daily. Urea numbers can also test high from eating foods with a high concentration of protein, such as pork, rabbit and mollusks. These foods digest in about 3 hours and cause more energy to be released than the body can handle. This consumption leads to too much urea (waste protein) being dumped into the bloodstream, thus overloading the kidneys. The heart becomes over stimulated and overworked as these unclean foods damage the body. It can be compared to putting airplane fuel in a Model-T Ford. The high-test gasoline will burn out the pistons and valves. Many children who complain of tummy aches and who are too tired to get up in the morning have an extremely high urea count. High urea can also be the cause of death in active athletes.

A person who retains too much salt can develop angina.

Some people can handle more salt than others. Some may carefully avoid salt and still have a high count because the liver is not functioning properly. As a result, too many salts are being stored in the muscles and fatty tissues of the body. Salt substitutes are no better than table salt because all salts cause the blood vessels to dilate. If the body retains too much salt over a long period of time, the veins and arteries lose their flexibility, leading to hardening of the arteries.

Normally, the heart starts the blood pumping. Then, the blood is actually squeezed and pushed along by the rhythmic expansion and contraction of the muscles in the walls of the arteries and veins. But, when the vessels lose their elasticity, the body starts manufacturing and lining the arteries with cholesterol. This action is an attempt to narrow the opening so that the blood will squirt through faster and move through the capillaries and veins back to the heart.

It is the high salts, not the cholesterol, that is the cause of angina However, the buildup of cholesterol is dangerous because, if a piece tears loose, it can plug the heart and cause spasms as the heart tries to pump the piece through. Sometimes a vein or an artery actually bursts. If the salt shows 30 on the test, a person may be in danger of a heart condition. Signs that the salt is too high in the body are bursting blood vessels and varicose veins.

No instrument is needed to measure albumen (.04m), the solid particles in the urine. If you hold a bottle of urine up to the light and observe a cloudy mass that swirls around, or if there seems to be particles throughout the urine, this means that your body is toxic and in need of cleansing. These are carcinoma cells. The 4m means 4 million particles per liter and the normal albumen count should be only 40,000 per liter per 100 pounds of body weight. The urine should be clear yellow with a few visible particles that can be easily seen.

If the urine has foam, it is an indication that too little water is being consumed each day.

The sugar test measures sugar and all the carbohydrates in the body. Many people who are thought to be epileptic are actually experiencing low blood sugar which can cause the seizures. They can quickly be brought to by putting honey on the tongue. Low blood sugar is caused by the pancreas manufacturing too much insulin. Some carbohydrates cause the pancreas to flush out insulin but, when removed from the diet, the low sugar level is corrected. The same is true for high sugar conditions. When the body chemistry is properly balanced, all the numbers in the equation are aligned.

Body chemistry can be corrected. The drinking of pure, steam-distilled water picks up salts and urea and washes them out of the body. It also removes other toxins which have collected in the weakest parts of the body and are causing pain in the joints and muscles. Fresh lemon juice builds up the liver. Liver bile in its purest state is a form of diluted hydrochloric acid. Fresh lemon juice is nature's own diluted hydrochloric acid. The liver can convert it into an astonishing number of different enzymes and vitamins. It is extremely important to build up the liver, as all diseases begin in the breakdown of that organ.

Everyone needs to eat raw fruits and vegetables daily. The juices of the green vegetables build up the pancreas. Asparagus and celery are good for the heart because they contain a natural arsenic which strengthens the heart. Eating a wide variety of vegetables and fruits supplies the most minerals. Alcohol, oriental tea, cocoa, refined white sugar and white flour products deplete the minerals in the body and cause a loss of reserve energy. Lack of proper rest also robs the body of nutrients. The emotional state of a person, such as the harboring of hate, anger or resentment, can likewise cause changes in the body chemistry and lower one's immunity.

The Biological Theory of Ionization works. Dr. Eller, who holds a Ph.D. in Nutrition and Preventive Medicine, uses this procedure to obtain a biochemical profile for each client. After obtaining specific readings for an individual, Dr. Eller can then develop a specific program to restore that person's balance. Corrective programs are outlined for 30 to 60 days. Interim monitoring indicates the degree of progress being made. His health restoration program consists of the following:

*Body detoxification and purification procedure;
*Body biochemical balancing using herbs, minerals, and supplements;
*Simple exercises for lymphatic function; and,
*Special foods for cellular regeneration and maintenance.

When the procedures are followed uniformly, an individual can expect to see positive results. "

enjoys freebies · Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:51 am Quote

Ions: The Body's Electrical Energy Source
Mark T. Nielsen
Professor, Department of Biology
University of Utah

http://www.wheatgrasskits.com/ions-body-energy.htm

enjoys freebies · Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:03 am Quote

Carpool duty calls. I'll be back.

enjoys freebies · Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:16 am Quote

I've actually got a lot of work to do today. I'm working on a Master's of Economics and I have class tonight, so I want to prepare. I am very much 'into' alternative health methods as I don't like taking non-organic chemicals to 'improve' my health and well-being. The footbath is very much in the 'alternative' health realm. I believe it is based on some prize winning research about osmosis. I will have to check on this later.

I did find a 'wholistic' dentist in my area who said he was getting an ionic footbath for his practice (I went to one of his seminars)-- Dr. Rehme. He lectures on the dangers of mercury fillings. He has to be careful about claims about them for legal reasons, but he also is a health practitioner with a conscience and 'testicular fortitude.' Here is his website:
http://www.toothandbodyconnection.com/about-dr-rehme.php

Many chiropractors are into 'alternative' health methods also-- hence my learning about this from my chiropractor. Sans medical evidence, I can tell you that at the end of my first foot bath, my sinuses were completely cleared (the bath sucked the snot through my feet) and I felt lighter and weak. My complexion looks better afterwards and although I usually only get orangey water now, the first few times the water was quite nasty and colorful. (I understaned that people who have had their gallbladders removed usually get orangey water). I realize that there is some breakdown of the 'array' in the water which leads to black flecks, but the progressive changes in the colors of the post-footbath water cannot be due to array issues or changing the source of my water.

enjoys freebies · Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:17 am Quote

bciw:

Footpads and footbaths are not the same thing.

enjoys freebies · Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:31 am Quote

I went to google scholar and searched on "ionic detoxification feet" and this is the first link that came up. It looks pretty good. I don't have time to read it but will do more later:

http://www.reverseagingclinic.com/backup/Ionic%20Footbath%20from%20Gita.pdf

enjoys freebies · Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:41 pm Quote

InkyProse wrote:

Does anyone else on here use ionizing footbaths? I tried on at my chiropractor's office and liked it so much I bought one for myself. The footbath really helps puffiness in my face, along with all the benefits of detoxification. I've had my gallbladder removed and the water always turns orange.

The first time I used the footbath, the water was all kinds of colors-- I had 45+ years of toxic matter in my system. There are different colors which indicate which organs and/or toxins are being affected. The following website gives a good primer on the footbath:

http://ionicdetoxfootbath.com/

Anyway, I just did one tonight, the first time in a few months, and the water was pretty nasty. But my face looks fabulous.

A year ago, when I came down with inflammations in my body, I heard about this device. I'm too are very into alternative methods, but I have to say that none of the methods I've tried in my life, has work in any dramatically way. I didn't try this one. I was so close to do that, I've read some exciting stories in the local paper about it, and how the water turns black and so on.
No I try to be more skeptical to these types of methods. i want to see some results based on facts, and documentations. If the water turns black with or without my feet in it...I mean, self suggestions do work, if I believe in it enough, I will feel better.. like a placebo.

Can you show me some test results that prov that this device do work, measurement in a body before and after a foot bath? Measurements of the water?

enjoys freebies · Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:48 pm Quote

I tried it at a spa, and was totally unimpressed!!

enjoys freebies · Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:23 am Quote

Vanilj wrote:

InkyProse wrote:

Does anyone else on here use ionizing footbaths? I tried on at my chiropractor's office and liked it so much I bought one for myself. The footbath really helps puffiness in my face, along with all the benefits of detoxification. I've had my gallbladder removed and the water always turns orange.

The first time I used the footbath, the water was all kinds of colors-- I had 45+ years of toxic matter in my system. There are different colors which indicate which organs and/or toxins are being affected. The following website gives a good primer on the footbath:

http://ionicdetoxfootbath.com/

Anyway, I just did one tonight, the first time in a few months, and the water was pretty nasty. But my face looks fabulous.

A year ago, when I came down with inflammations in my body, I heard about this device. I'm too are very into alternative methods, but I have to say that none of the methods I've tried in my life, has work in any dramatically way. I didn't try this one. I was so close to do that, I've read some exciting stories in the local paper about it, and how the water turns black and so on.
No I try to be more skeptical to these types of methods. i want to see some results based on facts, and documentations. If the water turns black with or without my feet in it...I mean, self suggestions do work, if I believe in it enough, I will feel better.. like a placebo.

Can you show me some test results that prov that this device do work, measurement in a body before and after a foot bath? Measurements of the water?

I tried it because it was at my chiropractor's office and her word was good enough for me. I researched it briefly before that. I am not selling this item and I see no need to defend it any further. I've provided links in this and another thread which is linked from this thread which give some background on it. You can research it yourself. Sorry, but I have more important things to do with my time.

enjoys freebies · Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:14 am Quote

I re-read this thread and found that posts had (of course) been deleted-- posts which might have provided forum users with valuable information. I found the original thread here:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32963

Apologies to the previous poster for the curt answer I gave you. I didn't realize that posts had been cut out.

Shame on whoever cut those posts.

Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:40 am Quote

InkyProse wrote:

I re-read this thread and found that posts had (of course) been deleted-- posts which might have provided forum users with valuable information. I found the original thread here:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32963

Apologies to the previous poster for the curt answer I gave you. I didn't realize that posts had been cut out.

Shame on whoever cut those posts.

Inky, no one has cut any posts. The link you provided is to the very thread you are already in.

enjoys freebies · Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:47 am Quote

havana8 wrote:

InkyProse wrote:

I re-read this thread and found that posts had (of course) been deleted-- posts which might have provided forum users with valuable information. I found the original thread here:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32963

Apologies to the previous poster for the curt answer I gave you. I didn't realize that posts had been cut out.

Shame on whoever cut those posts.

Inky, no one has cut any posts. The link you provided is to the very thread you are already in.

Havanah,

Please link to it and you will see the missing posts.

edit: the threads now match up. The previous thread had a link to the 2003 Nobel Prize. It is no longer there.

enjoys freebies · Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:24 pm Quote

Wow..that is wild! Shock

Hmmm..something that I would think could be a hoax, but may actually work! Why not? Reflexology has done AMAZING things for my whole body, and I would have thought it was a hoax too...
Reflexology isn't $1500,though..OUCH! Rolling Eyes

I would have tried it but man,that price is STEEP! Shock

Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:20 pm Quote

No posts have been removed from this thread. There is another thread on this topic to which you have posted, that thread has a link to the 2003 Nobel Prize you mentioned. Please see: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=33451

Now, on topic, I have a detox foot-spa and also use detox foot patches. I do like the foot patches and feel that they do actually work. The foot spa is disappointing however. I've used it for a few months. The water colour change is a reaction with the electrodes, nothing to do with my feet. The water always discolors, with or without feet, and I have not seen any effects after using this. Of course, I'm sure not all machines are the same, but my experience with detox foot spas has not been a "WOW" one.

InkyProse wrote:

Havanah,

Please link to it and you will see the missing posts.

edit: the threads now match up. The previous thread had a link to the 2003 Nobel Prize. It is no longer there.

enjoys freebies · Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:29 am Quote

My hubby had wanted to try this as we were reading alot about it, especially a year or so ago. I haven't seen as much about it lately. We know several people who tried it and swear by it.
There was a news station here in Austin that did an expose on this. They said as Mabsy did, it was reactions to electrodes. Several doctors were involved and they cited several scientific studies. They do a nightly series calmed "Thumbs up or down". This got a thumbs down.
Also either dateline or 20/20 put the claims to the test as well and it did not rate well.
But I say it's a personal choice and if it does anything for you, even mentally, then do what makes you happy.
Sort of like me and the Baby Q. Laughing

enjoys freebies · Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:28 pm Quote

mandapanda wrote:

Wow..that is wild! Shock

Hmmm..something that I would think could be a hoax, but may actually work! Why not? Reflexology has done AMAZING things for my whole body, and I would have thought it was a hoax too...
Reflexology isn't $1500,though..OUCH! Rolling Eyes

I would have tried it but man,that price is STEEP! Shock

I really think reflexology can be wonderful. My godmother goes for sessions and she loves it, I think it has helped her mood. You can look up charts online and do your own treatment at home.

enjoys freebies · Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:15 pm Quote

I tried an ionic footbath at a local spa, and was disgusted at the way the water looked at the end of my treatment. It was browny-orange, and looked gross. I only tried it once, so I don't really know if it made me feel better. I started researching about it after my treatment, and many websites and videos say that it's all a hoax and the water changes colour as a natural process of the metal rod being in the water, not toxins being released from the body. I am not really sure what to think.

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