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Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:43 am  |
| Bira wrote: |
Thank you everyone for such a great advice. I'm ready to try everything. The combination sounds really good to me. I thought it was a bruise, but now I changed my mind since the black color never went away. The strange thing is it doesn't itch. I did not realize toenail fungus can be brown/black color. The one I saw before was whitish/yellowish.
Does anyone know how to prevent it from occurring again once I got rid of this one? |
A black spot, or tiny black spots are bacterial infections. That's what I had. (you are right that fungus infections are usually yellow)
After I did the vinegar soaks (10-20 minutes, twice daily) for about 2 months, it went away and didn't come back.  |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:36 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
| 20 years? I didn't know toenail fungus can last that long! I'm glad you got rid of it now. |
It can last forever if not treated and disfigure the nails so that they become like a horn - twisted and thick. It can also cause cellulitis of the nailbeds.
It can be picked up from carpeting that has been infected by someone who has the fungus or sharing shoes with an infected person. You must throw away your shoes after you've been cured and deep clean the carpets to keep from reinfecting yourself. |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:54 pm |
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| It can be picked up from carpeting that has been infected by someone who has the fungus or sharing shoes with an infected person. You must throw away your shoes after you've been cured and deep clean the carpets to keep from reinfecting yourself. |
Throw away your shoes 
I have what I think must be a fungus in my big toe as it's thick and browny coloured.
This thread has been awesome. Thanks everyone. I'm going to start with doing the vinegar soaks, the vicks and take some colostrom supps.
But please tell me that most of you did NOT throw away all your shoes?
I have so many and I LOVE them. |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:02 pm |
| health2u wrote: |
| Bira wrote: |
Thank you everyone for such a great advice. I'm ready to try everything. The combination sounds really good to me. I thought it was a bruise, but now I changed my mind since the black color never went away. The strange thing is it doesn't itch. I did not realize toenail fungus can be brown/black color. The one I saw before was whitish/yellowish.
Does anyone know how to prevent it from occurring again once I got rid of this one? |
A black spot, or tiny black spots are bacterial infections. That's what I had. (you are right that fungus infections are usually yellow)
After I did the vinegar soaks (10-20 minutes, twice daily) for about 2 months, it went away and didn't come back. |
If it's bacterial infection, it should be much easier to cure than fungal. I hope it is bacterial. I just bought some oil of oregano (hasn't arrived) but hope to use it on the toe soon. |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:08 pm |
Bethany, thank you so much for the links and write ups of your opinion on the OoO.
May I ask what other OoO did you buy that was ineffective? I just ordered one from online and I hope it's not the one you mentioned.  I had no idea there's a difference.
I will have to try taking it internally, too. If it's bacterial instead of fungal, it should kill it, too. |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:36 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
Bethany, thank you so much for the links and write ups of your opinion on the OoO.
May I ask what other OoO did you buy that was ineffective? I just ordered one from online and I hope it's not the one you mentioned. I had no idea there's a difference.
I will have to try taking it internally, too. If it's bacterial instead of fungal, it should kill it, too. |
Bira, I bought from this place:
http://www.se1.us/health/oregano/
Back when I originally purchased (years ago), I am pretty sure that the site talked about getting their wild oregano from the Mediterranean like the P73 stuff. But that appears to be gone now. 
The owner recently told me that taking the gelcaps would not eliminate a systemic fungal infection, and that you really need to do the under the tongue approach because it enters your bloodstream 10 times faster. But I was doing that as well as the caps and didn't see much in the way of results, so this time I am going for the branded stuff.
I emailed the P73 company tonight and asked for their advice on the best regimen to get fungus under control...I'll let you know what I find out. |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:00 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
Bira, I bought from this place:
http://www.se1.us/health/oregano/
Back when I originally purchased (years ago), I am pretty sure that the site talked about getting their wild oregano from the Mediterranean like the P73 stuff. But that appears to be gone now.
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I was looking at the site where I previously purchased, and their focus is on the level of carvacrol when comparing their product to others (and made me originally think it was stronger).
But the study below shows that carvacrol isn't the only factor. Too bad I didn't read these years ago! 
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In this paper we have demonstrated, that origanum oil effectively inhibits the in vitro growth of C. albicans, a human yeast-like fungus which can cause both systemic and superficial infections in debilitated individuals. In addition we have shown that origanum oil directly inhibits germination and filament formation (the two phases required for tissue invasion) by C. albicans. Nevertheless, the novel fungicidal property of origanum oil was of superior efficacy as compared to carvacrol against the germination and mycelial elongation of pathogenic strain of C. albicans in vitro. Furthermore, selected concentrations of origanum oil demonstrated therapeutic efficacy comparable to the effective examined dose for amphotericin B (1.0 mg) in protecting the mice from systemic candidiasis. The overall clinical appearance of the mice receiving origanum oil was cosmetically better than those receiving carvacrol (data not shown), although this difference in appearance could possibly be attributed to the presence of additional constituent phenols such as thymol, terpenes and flavonoids in origanum oil [4]. It has been demonstrated that some of these components of origanum oil have antispasmodic and antioxidant activities, in addition to their antimicrobial potentials [23, 28, 29]. A comparative study of these components may shed more light not only on the antifungal potentials, but also on the pharmacological effects of each of these components. It is interesting to speculate that secondary infections due to C. albicans in debilitated individuals such as those having diabetes and HIV infection may be prophylactically controlled by the daily intake of small amounts of oregano oil, either alone or added to a food.
http://www.p-73.com/pdf/antifungalcandida.pdf |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:19 pm |
| lianne wrote: |
I can tell you from experience that none of those nail lacquer like products work. I tried several of them, including prescription types and they did nothing for me. I also tried the tea tree oil, oil or oregano, and vinegar treatments without any luck. After 5 years I gave up and got a prescription for oral Lamasil pills and the fungus was completely gone within 8 months. Just be sure if you do use it to get your blood tests done as it can be pretty harsh on your system. I was lucky not to have any side effects.
I think the effectiveness of treatments depends on the degree of infection and the area of infection. Mine was the entire nail and the nail was growing in like that from under the skin. Perhaps if it's just a corner or 'side' of the nail treatment will be more effective. |
May I ask what was the color of your nail fungus? I'm confused now if mine is fungus or bacterial. I didn't know bacteria can infect nails. |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:22 pm |
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| Bira wrote: |
Bethany, thank you so much for the links and write ups of your opinion on the OoO.
May I ask what other OoO did you buy that was ineffective? I just ordered one from online and I hope it's not the one you mentioned. I had no idea there's a difference.
I will have to try taking it internally, too. If it's bacterial instead of fungal, it should kill it, too. |
Bira, I bought from this place:
http://www.se1.us/health/oregano/
Back when I originally purchased (years ago), I am pretty sure that the site talked about getting their wild oregano from the Mediterranean like the P73 stuff. But that appears to be gone now.
The owner recently told me that taking the gelcaps would not eliminate a systemic fungal infection, and that you really need to do the under the tongue approach because it enters your bloodstream 10 times faster. But I was doing that as well as the caps and didn't see much in the way of results, so this time I am going for the branded stuff.
I emailed the P73 company tonight and asked for their advice on the best regimen to get fungus under control...I'll let you know what I find out. |
Phew, it's not the same web site I bought, but that web site did not mention anything about P73 either. It only has it as a high cervacrol percentage. Once I receive it, I will take it under the tongue as you suggest. |
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Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:26 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| bethany wrote: |
Bira, I bought from this place:
http://www.se1.us/health/oregano/
Back when I originally purchased (years ago), I am pretty sure that the site talked about getting their wild oregano from the Mediterranean like the P73 stuff. But that appears to be gone now.
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I was looking at the site where I previously purchased, and their focus is on the level of carvacrol when comparing their product to others (and made me originally think it was stronger).
But the study below shows that carvacrol isn't the only factor. Too bad I didn't read these years ago!
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In this paper we have demonstrated, that origanum oil effectively inhibits the in vitro growth of C. albicans, a human yeast-like fungus which can cause both systemic and superficial infections in debilitated individuals. In addition we have shown that origanum oil directly inhibits germination and filament formation (the two phases required for tissue invasion) by C. albicans. Nevertheless, the novel fungicidal property of origanum oil was of superior efficacy as compared to carvacrol against the germination and mycelial elongation of pathogenic strain of C. albicans in vitro. Furthermore, selected concentrations of origanum oil demonstrated therapeutic efficacy comparable to the effective examined dose for amphotericin B (1.0 mg) in protecting the mice from systemic candidiasis. The overall clinical appearance of the mice receiving origanum oil was cosmetically better than those receiving carvacrol (data not shown), although this difference in appearance could possibly be attributed to the presence of additional constituent phenols such as thymol, terpenes and flavonoids in origanum oil [4]. It has been demonstrated that some of these components of origanum oil have antispasmodic and antioxidant activities, in addition to their antimicrobial potentials [23, 28, 29]. A comparative study of these components may shed more light not only on the antifungal potentials, but also on the pharmacological effects of each of these components. It is interesting to speculate that secondary infections due to C. albicans in debilitated individuals such as those having diabetes and HIV infection may be prophylactically controlled by the daily intake of small amounts of oregano oil, either alone or added to a food.
http://www.p-73.com/pdf/antifungalcandida.pdf |
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How much cervacrol percent does the P73 have? Do you know? I was a little confused reading the article. Where did they get the isolated cervacrol? I thought that OoO has cervacrol, but they were comparing OoO with cervacrol. |
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Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:07 am |
Bira, you have a black spot? How long has it been there? The reason I'm asking is because my oldest & dearest friend had one...it turned out to be skin cancer under her big toe nail. She's fine now but who knows what could have happened if she didn't just happen to mention it to her doctor (about getting that speck of dirt out).
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Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:37 am |
| Bira wrote: |
| How much cervacrol percent does the P73 have? Do you know? I was a little confused reading the article. Where did they get the isolated cervacrol? I thought that OoO has cervacrol, but they were comparing OoO with cervacrol. |
I have no idea of the %...they don't have that on the site anywhere. But my take away from the article was that the cervacrol was an important component of the OoO, but not the only factor. |
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Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:14 pm |
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Bira, you have a black spot? How long has it been there? The reason I'm asking is because my oldest & dearest friend had one...it turned out to be skin cancer under her big toe nail. She's fine now but who knows what could have happened if she didn't just happen to mention it to her doctor (about getting that speck of dirt out).
Be safe!
Summer |
It's been there for maybe a month now. At first I thought it was bruised from wearing these clogs, but after waiting for the bruise to lighten up, and it never did, I started to think it was fungus, but the only fungus I saw was yellow. I think I'm going to see my doctor after all instead of self-diagnose! Cancer doesn't sound too appealing to me. |
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Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:40 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| Bira wrote: |
| How much cervacrol percent does the P73 have? Do you know? I was a little confused reading the article. Where did they get the isolated cervacrol? I thought that OoO has cervacrol, but they were comparing OoO with cervacrol. |
I have no idea of the %...they don't have that on the site anywhere. But my take away from the article was that the cervacrol was an important component of the OoO, but not the only factor. |
Today I saw an OoO at a health food store. They were selling the one with P73 written on it but no cervacrol listed. It was $30 for 1 oz. You got a good deal from iherbs. |
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Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:58 pm |
| Update: Last night I tried cutting into the nail that has the black color underneath it. The nail started to peel like it was not even attached to my toe anymore. So I kept digging and cutting off more. Then I tried rubbing alcohol on the exposed part, and bits of brown scabs came loose exposing pink skin under it. So it looks like it might be blood clot, and the nail was preventing it from falling off? Not all the black part was coming loose, and I didn't want to rub it so much. So I'm going to wait now and see if the rest of the scab will fall out on its own now that the nail is not blocking it. |
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:15 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| Bira wrote: |
| How much cervacrol percent does the P73 have? Do you know? I was a little confused reading the article. Where did they get the isolated cervacrol? I thought that OoO has cervacrol, but they were comparing OoO with cervacrol. |
I have no idea of the %...they don't have that on the site anywhere. But my take away from the article was that the cervacrol was an important component of the OoO, but not the only factor. |
Bethany, I did some research on P73 OoO and found that they said it got over 64% cervacrol.
http://www.oreganopro.com/oreganolp73.asp
It's in the 4th paragraph 2nd to last sentence. 
Wow, I can't believe how many usages there are with OoO.
Did you buy regular strength or super strength? |
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Fri May 01, 2009 9:11 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
Bethany, I did some research on P73 OoO and found that they said it got over 64% cervacrol.
http://www.oreganopro.com/oreganolp73.asp
It's in the 4th paragraph 2nd to last sentence.
Wow, I can't believe how many usages there are with OoO.
Did you buy regular strength or super strength? |
Very interesting on the 64%...thanks!
I got the Super Strength, because I am Super Contaminated.
I can tell you that it is NASTY tasting and HOT ...the only way I have been able to keep it under my tongue for even a few seconds is to put a few drops into maybe a half teaspoon of macadamia oil. That dilutes it, though you are still getting the recommended dosage. I hold it in my mouth for as long as I can (maybe a minute?) and then swallow it. I am doing that twice a day. |
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Sun May 03, 2009 2:40 pm |
Bethany, you are welcome. Believe it or not, as an FYI, after I was researching on oil of oregano, I came across a web site that sells oil of oregano with 93% cervacrol factor. I wonder if that one is effective.
I agree about the nasty taste and smell of oil of oregano. I hate the stuff, too. Now that the toenail turns out not to have fungus, I will put off eating this oil for now.  |
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Sun May 03, 2009 10:03 pm |
| tea tree oil 3x a day is the best and fastest cure along with neem oil. get them at a reputable all natural store & make sure they're true essentail oils, not synthetic. i'd reccomend aura cacia for the tea tree oil, they're good. stay away from pharmaceutical drugs for nail fungus. they take a huge toll on your body, take longer too work than the tea tree oil, aren't healthy 4 u and are usually unsuccessful! plus they take months to work!! go the natural way! it's better and healthier! |
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Sun May 03, 2009 10:08 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
Bethany, you are welcome. Believe it or not, as an FYI, after I was researching on oil of oregano, I came across a web site that sells oil of oregano with 93% cervacrol factor. I wonder if that one is effective.
I agree about the nasty taste and smell of oil of oregano. I hate the stuff, too. Now that the toenail turns out not to have fungus, I will put off eating this oil for now. |
Did you drop something on your food to cause that blood clot?
After reading about the rapid swine flu spread, I am actually glad that I am taking that nasty stuff! And the faster the candida is gone, the better!
I would love to see the product with the 93% cervacrol...I'll have to google it and look into that further. |
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Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:13 pm |
| I was a nail tech for many years... and we would get customers with fungus under their acrylic nails... if it is on your hands... you need to stop with the acrylics... cut nail short... and apply vick's vapo rub.. 2x a day... this takes months... or you can get a prescription from your doctor for many months to get rid of it... also fungus can be brown, green, yellow or even black depending on the severity.... but that vick's vapo rub Definitely works.. I have seen it with my own eyes...(oh and the customers that had fungus were new customers that came in that already had it and were worried that they got it from the place that was originally doing their nails)... (improperly applying acrylics can cause fungus) not using primers or prepping nails correctly causes lift and water can get trapped under the acrylic..causing rot basically... it's nasty |
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Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:48 pm |
Oil of Oregano.
Edit: Looks like you've already figured that out.
How's it looking Bira? |
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Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:04 pm |
| ....just came across this thread, after I posted about the Laser treatment I just had for a toenail fungus. (PinPointe Laser.) The doc also sells ans ultraviolet-type-shoe insert to disinfect your shoes. That was just a little too over the top for me! |
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Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:41 am |
Hi,
My manicurist also recommends Dr G's Clear Nail. I found it not bad, but you have to consistently apply it everyday to see results. |
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