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Amber Sheets
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Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:26 am |
I'm a master esthetician, and have had a variety of treatments done in school, out of school, out of curiosity, for research etc. I've used and compared BOTH the dermaroller and the Dermapen which is also micro-needling and the Dermapen is FAR superior to the roller. Healing time is faster, it has adjustable depths so you can customize depending on the area being treated, It works wonders on SM's. I had visible improvement after ONE treatment! You all should google it. |
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bee123
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Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:19 am |
Does anyone know a good website to order single needles? I typically have ordered from own doc but there single needles have been out of stock for a few weeks now. |
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Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:53 pm |
Amber Sheets wrote: |
I'm a master esthetician, and have had a variety of treatments done in school, out of school, out of curiosity, for research etc. I've used and compared BOTH the dermaroller and the Dermapen which is also micro-needling and the Dermapen is FAR superior to the roller. Healing time is faster, it has adjustable depths so you can customize depending on the area being treated, It works wonders on SM's. I had visible improvement after ONE treatment! You all should google it. |
Hi AmberSheets, Can you tell me where you bought your Dermapen and why you think it is better then the dermaroller? I would be using on my face since I don't have any stretch marks. Thanks. |
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Amber Sheets
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:35 am |
The dermapen, sadly, isn't for sale to the public. I had to get my treatments from a provider. The tip of the dermapen was narrow enough to right up under my eyes, the needle depth was adjustable so one size fits all, the speeds are adjustable, the faster it goes the less painful it is. It was similar to getting a tattoo but less painful. |
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tiffanievirginia
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:33 am |
so i've read a good bit of this thread. mostly the first ones and the last ones. i'm hoping to get answers from some of you who started this years ago. so here it goes:
*The climax spray that people have been using for numbing, is this the same as the spray people use for intimate purposes?
*Most people use the 1.5mm roller, does this work better than the smaller rollers or the bigger rollers?
*Since the midsection is the hardest area to cure, is it better to use a deeper needle on this area?
*Will doing the stomach area more frequently bring better results?
*For those who had been doing this years ago and were doing them more frequently than a month apart, did you receive faster results and were they permanent?
*Without puncturing the skin, this treatment wont work, correct?
*Should i use a smaller roller between treatments with the bigger roller? if so, what size?
*Will using creams for stretch marks and doing a body wrap in them in between treatments help? if so, how long should i wait after the treatment to start doing this? right now i wrap in cellulite cream, vitamin e oil, alpha hydroxy face cream and i'm thinking of adding castor oil. I also exfoliate when i do this.
*should i take any vitamins orally to help with the process?
*will taking a warm bath before treatment make it easier and/or less painful?
*does tanning help with stretch marks or does it make them more visible?
*For those who were apart of this thread years ago, what are your results?
*For those who are done rolling, how long did it take to get your desired results? did they go away completely? will using a collagen cream help with the process?
*Any personal experience on the derma pen vs the derma roller?
i know i have loads of questions but i want to make sure i do this right! (: |
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tiffanievirginia
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:33 pm |
PapayaWhip67 wrote: |
My stretch marks are all over my stomach, so I start at the bottom and roll sideways across my whole stomach back and forth a bunch of times, then move it to the space above it and roll it left and right across my stomach and do that all the way up. Then I do the same thing going down then diagonal. |
i'm hoping that you will be alerted someone is quoting you and you'll see this. i saw you got alot of criticism for rolling so frequently but you seemed to be getting the best results. i was wondering how your improvement is now, and how long you continued to roll. i'm hoping your results are permanent |
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Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:24 pm |
tiffanievirginia wrote: |
so i've read a good bit of this thread. mostly the first ones and the last ones. i'm hoping to get answers from some of you who started this years ago. so here it goes:
*The climax spray that people have been using for numbing, is this the same as the spray people use for intimate purposes?
*Most people use the 1.5mm roller, does this work better than the smaller rollers or the bigger rollers?
*Since the midsection is the hardest area to cure, is it better to use a deeper needle on this area?
*Will doing the stomach area more frequently bring better results?
*For those who had been doing this years ago and were doing them more frequently than a month apart, did you receive faster results and were they permanent?
*Without puncturing the skin, this treatment wont work, correct?
*Should i use a smaller roller between treatments with the bigger roller? if so, what size?
*Will using creams for stretch marks and doing a body wrap in them in between treatments help? if so, how long should i wait after the treatment to start doing this? right now i wrap in cellulite cream, vitamin e oil, alpha hydroxy face cream and i'm thinking of adding castor oil. I also exfoliate when i do this.
*should i take any vitamins orally to help with the process?
*will taking a warm bath before treatment make it easier and/or less painful?
*does tanning help with stretch marks or does it make them more visible?
*For those who were apart of this thread years ago, what are your results?
*For those who are done rolling, how long did it take to get your desired results? did they go away completely? will using a collagen cream help with the process?
*Any personal experience on the derma pen vs the derma roller?
i know i have loads of questions but i want to make sure i do this right! (: |
I really don't know too much about this topic, but I am trying to learn. It is actually the reason I recently joined this forum! I am including a link that I found VERY VERY helpful when deciding what to buy and do when it comes to dermarolling for stretch marks.
OK ... it will not allow me to include a website since Im a new member, so I will describe how you can find it. Google "derma rolling instructions pdf" It should be the first result found. Once you click on it look for the authors. If it lists Sarah and John Vaughter you have the article.
These instructions really helped me, hopefully they help you as well! |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:51 am |
StephCo wrote: |
tiffanievirginia wrote: |
so i've read a good bit of this thread. mostly the first ones and the last ones. i'm hoping to get answers from some of you who started this years ago. so here it goes:
*The climax spray that people have been using for numbing, is this the same as the spray people use for intimate purposes?
*Most people use the 1.5mm roller, does this work better than the smaller rollers or the bigger rollers?
*Since the midsection is the hardest area to cure, is it better to use a deeper needle on this area?
*Will doing the stomach area more frequently bring better results?
*For those who had been doing this years ago and were doing them more frequently than a month apart, did you receive faster results and were they permanent?
*Without puncturing the skin, this treatment wont work, correct?
*Should i use a smaller roller between treatments with the bigger roller? if so, what size?
*Will using creams for stretch marks and doing a body wrap in them in between treatments help? if so, how long should i wait after the treatment to start doing this? right now i wrap in cellulite cream, vitamin e oil, alpha hydroxy face cream and i'm thinking of adding castor oil. I also exfoliate when i do this.
*should i take any vitamins orally to help with the process?
*will taking a warm bath before treatment make it easier and/or less painful?
*does tanning help with stretch marks or does it make them more visible?
*For those who were apart of this thread years ago, what are your results?
*For those who are done rolling, how long did it take to get your desired results? did they go away completely? will using a collagen cream help with the process?
*Any personal experience on the derma pen vs the derma roller?
i know i have loads of questions but i want to make sure i do this right! (: |
I really don't know too much about this topic, but I am trying to learn. It is actually the reason I recently joined this forum! I am including a link that I found VERY VERY helpful when deciding what to buy and do when it comes to dermarolling for stretch marks.
OK ... it will not allow me to include a website since Im a new member, so I will describe how you can find it. Google "derma rolling instructions pdf" It should be the first result found. Once you click on it look for the authors. If it lists Sarah and John Vaughter you have the article.
These instructions really helped me, hopefully they help you as well! |
Hi Steph I think this may be it?
http://dermaroller.owndoc.com/dermaroller-instructions.pdf |
_________________ I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:18 am |
Yes DarkMoon that is it! Thanks for posting it here for easy access! |
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tiffanievirginia
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:55 pm |
that was really helpful, thank you! |
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tiffanievirginia
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:38 am |
so now they have vibrating LED derma rollers. does anyone know anything about these and if they have better results than a basic derma roller? i think the LED could definitely help, although i don't know if the light on these would be strong enough for any results but the vibrating seems a little scary. wouldn't it create a bigger puncture which is bad for you? |
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:43 pm |
I'm in the course of single needling the stretchmarks on my thighs for the third time since April. Since there's a lot of them, it's not a procedure that is quickly done with, but I hope to get through them over the weekend.
Also as I wrote before, the healing takes two weeks, but since the weather forecast predicts that pants will be they sensible choice anyway in the coming weeks (in august ), that's OK.
So far I haven't seen any great improvement, but I didn't expect that after only two treatments, all though it did seem like they (the stretch marks) were able to tan a little bit more than before during my vacation.
I does however seems like the single needling itself has gotten harder. I've had a lot of bruising the previous times too, but this time it bleeds and hurts more than I remembered it to do. I hope that it is due to more normal skin, blood vessels and perhaps nerve endings in the stretch marks, rather than a sign of me being a cry baby this time .
Has anyone else experienced this? |
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Celly
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Joined: 06 Aug 2012
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Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:45 pm |
Dermarolling seems FAB. The only thing you can do to reduce the actual indenting that comes with stretch marks right? That's what I'm looking to fix. Feeling the little canyons when I touch my skin literally sends a shiver though my back
My question is...
Does it really matter which one I buy? I would really like to buy one though amazon and when you search so many come up. From $7 to $120 Clearly, I'd love to be able to buy a dirt cheap one and get results, but can I?
I'm reading all I can about dermarolling now, I really can't wait to start and take pictures of the whole process. |
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:59 am |
^ Good luck, be sure to keep us updated. |
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adina7
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:29 am |
I rolled 5times on my legs,as my legs are full of stretchmarks.Rolled with a 1.5 Dr.roller dermaroller.No results yet,even though i have used infadolan ointment,retin-a cream and Vit.C serum.I mean sure my skin looks better and the stretchmarks less visible but that is only because of the inflammation.I will soon order another roller because i want to kerp rolling for at least 2years(once o month,as i do now).
My question is:Can dermarolling lead to cancer.We all know that inflammation leads to cancer so wouldn't o expose myself to some kind of risk if my legs will always be inflammated?!From what i have read inflammation causes cancer so am i in any risk of developing cancer if i roll?Oh,and what if i roll on my breasts?!
Please answer me.Thank you! |
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Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:51 pm |
adina7 wrote: |
I rolled 5times on my legs,as my legs are full of stretchmarks.Rolled with a 1.5 Dr.roller dermaroller.No results yet,even though i have used infadolan ointment,retin-a cream and Vit.C serum.I mean sure my skin looks better and the stretchmarks less visible but that is only because of the inflammation.I will soon order another roller because i want to kerp rolling for at least 2years(once o month,as i do now).
My question is:Can dermarolling lead to cancer.We all know that inflammation leads to cancer so wouldn't o expose myself to some kind of risk if my legs will always be inflammated?!From what i have read inflammation causes cancer so am i in any risk of developing cancer if i roll?Oh,and what if i roll on my breasts?!
Please answer me.Thank you! |
I think what you are referring to is chronic inflammation leading to cancer. Chronic inflammation is inflammation lasting longer than normal (like months at a time). Chronic inflammation is not normal. What we are trying to accomplish with dermarolling is to create tiny pin-prick wounds and then encourage normal wound healing. This process includes acute inflammation, a normal bodily process necessary to wound healing, not chronic inflammation. So, unless the spots you are rolling are not healing properly, you shouldn't have cause to worry. |
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Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:06 pm |
Well, I'm not sure that anyone actually comes here regularly anymore, but I am about to start seriously rolling the stretch marks on my hips. They are my worst marks and really bother me.
They developed about three years ago due to sudden weight gain. I have some on my right side that are very noticeable even from far distances. They are deep and wide (one is about a cm wide).
I first read about dermarolling a couple years ago, and ordered two rollers I believe early last year. The only spot I ever got a good, deep roll on was the outside of my right thigh where I had a TON of smaller stretch marks (really like my whole outer thigh-knee to butt-was covered in smaller marks). I didn't buy any sort of numbing cream, and this area is the only spot that didn't hurt terribly, so it's the only spot I really got a decent roll in.
I only did four rolls (5 weeks apart) with a 3mm on this area, and the marks here are now to a point where they hardly bother me and I can barely see them. I did these rolls last fall, so it's been almost a year.
Since I saw such great results on this area (and none of my untreated marks have faded at all), I decided to get a roller out again and get going on my nasty hip stretch marks. I've been treating every three nights with tretinoin .1% for the past two weeks, and last night I rolled my right side.
I used ice this time, because it still hurt too horribly to get any sort of decent pressure. I don't know why i didn't think to use ice before, but it helped a lot.
I got a very good roll in last night (it was a bloody mess-that's how I know I used good pressure).
I'm going to make some homemade C Serum probably tomorrow and start using that as well.
If anyone still comes to this forum and is interested, then I'll post progress pictures and more info on my rolling experience. |
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Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:17 pm |
What I love for this thread to have is more before & after pictures. |
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Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:58 am |
Would love to see some photos. |
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karen123
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:01 am |
on most websites that sell the dermaroller, it says not to needle active/red stretch marks, but i have also read someone say that it works better on newer/red SMs. Is it ok to needle red SMs? |
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SleepyZebra
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Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:34 pm |
Just did it
But the site won't let me link the pictures
So, here are the broken links (annoying I know)
i.imgur(dot)com/ioJ0X.jpg
Before
i.imgur(dot)com/6lurI.jpg
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SleepyZebra
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Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:41 am |
Been a week and it's almost 100% healed up. I do see/feel a tiny if improvement already, but I know that it's just superficial right now most likely (but I'm only 18, so my skin should take to this rather quickly).
Going to do the other side tomorrow night. |
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SleepyZebra
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:04 am |
Just snapped these pictures
Approximately 12 days after first roll
i.imgur(dot)com/kaCGk.jpg
i.imgur(dot)com/meqds.png
I scabbed a little bit and the top layer of skin over the area is rough feeling/looking. Still looks a little bit better, I'm going to put some coconut oil on the area.
And the bloody other side
i.imgur(dot)com/IbgyE.jpg
It really doesn't hurt, just stings a little. |
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Sarah88
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:05 pm |
Hey guys,
Happy new year!!
So i'm completely new to this, i only came across derma rollers a few days ago and since then I've been reading forums and watching videos on it. I've been dealing with my SM for since i was around 15 (i'm now 24)when i started gaining weight and by the time i was 22 I was 5 stones overweight. Since then i have lost nearly 2.5 stones but I'm struggling with my SM and they're everywhere. I've tried so many things, bio oils worked a little however I am interested in derma rolling. I've read quite a few posts on this thread and i have a few questions.
Firstly, many users are using Vit A and Vit C, whats the application process for this? Does vit A have to be applied before the treatment or after? and does Vit C have to be applied the morning after? Also do both/either have to be applied every day until the next treatment?
Secondly, does it have to be Vit A and C or can I use other creams such as Palmers cocoa butter for stretch marks?
Thirdly, how often is it recommended to roll?
Finally, since I've got them on my tummy, arms, hips, breasts and bum which size roller is best to use?
I know I'm asking loadsa questions but all the help with be greatly appreciated
Thanks!! |
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:28 am |
Hi Sarah,
I would recommend that you read the dermaroller instructions from Owndoc linked further up this page. Also at the top of this forum there is a sticky for DIY skincare including dermarolling. The info you are asking for is there.
But to sum up the procedure, as I see it ideally: You have to prep your skin with vit A and vit C for at least 2-3 weeks before dermarolling and continue to use for a month after. The idea is to have your skin packed with these to ensure sufficient build of new collagen. There is a study somewhere in all the threads suggesting that the presence of these vitamins is half the result. I don't know Palmers, but it has to be containing Vit A and Vit C. I think that the infadolan has this, personally I go for alternating a L-AA serum and tretinion.
For stretchmarks on the body I wouldn't have any scruples rolling once every 4 weeks with a 1,5 mm roller. |
_________________ Mid 30's, very fair skin. Using vit A and vit C. Experimenting with dermarolling, Ageless if You Dare and Safetox. Main focus on prevention, have gotten hormonal breakouts under control, would like to fix 11's, hyperpigmentation, stretch marks and acne scars on the chest. |
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