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Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:44 pm  |
| A friend of mine just turned 40 but she doesn't have any wrinkles deep or shallow. The other day we went shopping together. She said she wanted to try the Deep Wrinkle Repair cream. I asked her how would she know if it's effective or not since she has no wrinkle for the cream to work on. She said it doesn't matter since she's already 40 years old, so she has mature skin, and the cream will help prevent wrinkles. Huh? Does that make sense to anyone here? |
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:15 pm |
| It just may help prevent her from seeing the wrinkles when or if they do show up. Creams can't really prevent a wrinkle from occuring they can only make wrinkles less obvious by plumping them up. |
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:25 pm |
It's only my opinion, but I consider "mature" skin being related to the peri, through post menopausal years.
Based on my own personal experience, I din't have any real skin drama at all until about 5 years post menopause, and then all hell broke loose overnight.. 
It's also my opinion that when it comes to taking care of our skin, less is more, and the least you can get by with before the dam gives way, the better result you will get when you *really* need it in the years to come.
So to sum it up, I'd advise your friend to not use cosmeceuticals designed for 'mature skin', until she has 'mature skin'... She'd be better off using 'protective' measures now, in the hopes of keeping that unlined youthfulness for many years to come.
Doing whatever you can to keep the sun off your skin whether it be by avoidance, physical barriers like hats, glasses and the like, and sunscreen, is the best thing we can do for our skin at any age.
If I could turn back the clock to 40, and have the knowledge that I have now, I would do the following;
1. Protection from the sun, and forget about making like an aztec princess.. (But oh how great that tanned hyde looked back in the day..  )
2. Regular exfoliation with a nice microfiber cloth..(And not waste money on harsh chemical exfoliants, that dry the skin out.)
3. A great, effective vitamin C serum in the A.M.
4. Alternating AHA or Retin-A in the P.M.
5. Occassional LED use, to help keep that collagen in peak form...
After much trial and tribulation, this is what works for me, and what I wish I had been doing all along... When I was 40 I looked about 25 though, so I wasn't giving a thought to what was waiting around the dreaded menopausal bend... We live and learn...
Hopefully you *young-uns* will take advantage of one old geezers words of wisdom...  |
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:01 pm |
| jom wrote: |
| It just may help prevent her from seeing the wrinkles when or if they do show up. Creams can't really prevent a wrinkle from occuring they can only make wrinkles less obvious by plumping them up. |
It seems to defeat the purpose of the cream if it's advertising as 'deep wrinkle repair'. I'd expect someone with deep wrinkle to have much less deep wrinkle after using this cream for a while. But how do you know if the cream works on someone with no wrinkle? |
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 pm |
| Kassy_A wrote: |
It's only my opinion, but I consider "mature" skin being related to the peri, through post menopausal years.
Based on my own personal experience, I din't have any real skin drama at all until about 5 years post menopause, and then all hell broke loose overnight..
It's also my opinion that when it comes to taking care of our skin, less is more, and the least you can get by with before the dam gives way, the better result you will get when you *really* need it in the years to come.
So to sum it up, I'd advise your friend to not use cosmeceuticals designed for 'mature skin', until she has 'mature skin'... She'd be better off using 'protective' measures now, in the hopes of keeping that unlined youthfulness for many years to come.
Doing whatever you can to keep the sun off your skin whether it be by avoidance, physical barriers like hats, glasses and the like, and sunscreen, is the best thing we can do for our skin at any age.
If I could turn back the clock to 40, and have the knowledge that I have now, I would do the following;
1. Protection from the sun, and forget about making like an aztec princess.. (But oh how great that tanned hyde looked back in the day.. )
2. Regular exfoliation with a nice microfiber cloth..(And not waste money on harsh chemical exfoliants, that dry the skin out.)
3. A great, effective vitamin C serum in the A.M.
4. Alternating AHA or Retin-A in the P.M.
5. Occassional LED use, to help keep that collagen in peak form...
After much trial and tribulation, this is what works for me, and what I wish I had been doing all along... When I was 40 I looked about 25 though, so I wasn't giving a thought to what was waiting around the dreaded menopausal bend... We live and learn...
Hopefully you *young-uns* will take advantage of one old geezers words of wisdom... |
Kassy, thanks for your words of wisdom. I'm going to print out your post and give it to my friend to read. I will tell her not to waste money on the deep wrinkle repair cream. She should focus on protecting her skin, instead of repairing it. I see the logic in your reasoning. |
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:46 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
| A friend of mine just turned 40 but she doesn't have any wrinkles deep or shallow. The other day we went shopping together. She said she wanted to try the Deep Wrinkle Repair cream. I asked her how would she know if it's effective or not since she has no wrinkle for the cream to work on. She said it doesn't matter since she's already 40 years old, so she has mature skin, and the cream will help prevent wrinkles. Huh? Does that make sense to anyone here? |
No does not make sense. 40 years old is certainly not mature skin. Shes very young, so of course she has no wrinkles. You cannot repair a wrinkle. The only good wrinkle cream is sun screen. It the sun that causes wrinkles. |
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Fri May 01, 2009 5:06 am |
| Kassy_A wrote: |
It's only my opinion, but I consider "mature" skin being related to the peri, through post menopausal years.
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I totally agree with you, Kassy. This is what I think, as well. Great post, BTW, with great advice. Too bad you did not write this about 6 years ago. I would have loved someone to tell me this right when I started peri! |
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Fri May 01, 2009 6:29 am |
Great advice Kassy as always...I am certainly glad I found this board when I did at the tender age of 38 (of course I was 37 when I joined! lol). But, like you've said time and time again it is easier to prevent than correct or repair.
I saw some aging changes in my skin over the last year or so which is what prompted me to do something about it thus stumbling across this forum in my travels of the net. I now use sunscreen 24/7...365....using Vit C serum every AM and revamped my diet to include better foods and supplementation. I know what I am doing now will lessen the aging process for me when I do hit my meno stages....all thanks to you guys! I really can't thank this place enough because before you, skin care was something I could give 2 hoots about. Now I know better! |
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Fri May 01, 2009 10:04 am |
| Excuse me for butting in, Kassy do you think the SPF 20 in my tinted moisturizer is cutting it for sun protection. |
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Fri May 01, 2009 1:41 pm |
riley;  Oh how I wish I found EDS decades ago when I was tanning my hyde with baby oil and iodine. To be honest though, I really held my own right until about 4 or 5 years into menopause... Then all freaking hell broke loose, and I honest to God saw a daily decline.. And I'm talking head to toe, not just head..  Since finding EDS and all the great info from all of you, I've managed to reverse a few negatives, and *slow* the aging process down a *little*... But alas, Mama Bear is now the face I see in the mirror! (But I love and admire Mama Bear, so it's all good.. )
Brenda; Count your blessings little one that you found EDS now.. You are definitely on the right track, and I just know you will reap the rewards 20 years from now... Keep in mind that because you are just a youthful baby yet, you should not expect great big changes because you are already young + beautiful!.. Let your goal be more in line with keeping that lovely, youthful glow and nice firm foundation for decades to come. (What will really pay off for you in the long term are vitamins A,C, E + Ferulic Acid, Alph Hydroxy Acid + a good Retinol product.. You are also one step ahead with your LED, which will keep that collagen flourishing.
callalily; What sunscreen will be most effective for you, really depends on how much time you are in and out all day long.. The more time you spend out, the higher SPF you would need.. The suns UVA (aging) + UVG (burning) rays, find us wherever we are.. Yes, even through a window in our house.. It sucks, but that's the fact of the matter. The other thing to know, is that sun damage is cumulative over our lifetime, so the younger we start using sunblocks, the better off we are.. (I can't speak for anyone else, but I always hated using it, and even now only use it when I'm going out.) But I'm 59 now, and the majority of damage is done.. But if I had the chance to do it over, you can bet your arse I'd be using it as a toddler! Just use the strongest broad spectrum one you will be able to stand on you every day, and you'll be good to go.. (The main take away is "everyday", rain or shine, winter or summer..)
Okay, I'm getting carried away as usual.. |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Fri May 01, 2009 3:28 pm |
Kassy,
Ya, "old geezer" my arse!!!
(She still looks like she's 25 - must be the great stuff she does to stay that way!)
Good advice! |
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Fri May 01, 2009 3:44 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
| jom wrote: |
| It just may help prevent her from seeing the wrinkles when or if they do show up. Creams can't really prevent a wrinkle from occuring they can only make wrinkles less obvious by plumping them up. |
It seems to defeat the purpose of the cream if it's advertising as 'deep wrinkle repair'. I'd expect someone with deep wrinkle to have much less deep wrinkle after using this cream for a while. But how do you know if the cream works on someone with no wrinkle? |
Look at it this way...Is it true if a company is advertising cellulite cream... will their magic potion take away cellulite? |
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Fri May 01, 2009 3:48 pm |
Kassy_A - great advice  You rock girl! |
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Fri May 01, 2009 4:14 pm |
| Bira wrote: |
| jom wrote: |
| It just may help prevent her from seeing the wrinkles when or if they do show up. Creams can't really prevent a wrinkle from occuring they can only make wrinkles less obvious by plumping them up. |
It seems to defeat the purpose of the cream if it's advertising as 'deep wrinkle repair'. I'd expect someone with deep wrinkle to have much less deep wrinkle after using this cream for a while. But how do you know if the cream works on someone with no wrinkle? |
I think if you don't have wrinkles you don't need to use a cream that promises to repair your wrinkles. |
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Sun May 03, 2009 2:35 pm |
| Agree, Jom. I think I have enough ammo from you ladies' responses here to convince my friend she can hold off on this Deep Wrinkle Repair cream. |
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Sun May 03, 2009 11:17 pm |
Kassy you're such a nice lady  Thanks for answering all our questions with grace and kindness. I think you must have inner beauty to spare. |
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