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Sat May 26, 2012 3:11 pm      Reply with quote
For the area in front of the ears the 'ear wiggle' exercise from Shape Your Face is excellent.

http://www.shapeyourface.com/exercise_five.htm
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TheresaCats wrote:
I've written about this in another thread but I just wanted to voice an opinion that I don't believe facial exer should be done by anyone who is under 40. I did them to ward off aging signs and instead feel like I've aged terribly as a result. My eye area appearance has completely changed and it looks terrible.


I started doing facial exercise two months ago and I now have crows feet when before I had none at all, my under eye hollows are at least twice as deep, and nasolabial folds twice as long. It's unfortunate, because I like what it's doing for my jawline. I hope that my face returns to normal eventually.


Which program are you using?


I started with a few I found on YouTube by Coreena Ong, then moved to Facercise, thinking that it would be more effective. Once I noticed negative effects I tried out both Lou Lou's Ageless If You Dare and Facial Magic with similar results. I decided to go back to the original set by Coreena, but am still noticing an increase in nasolabial folds and eyebags. I am not ready to give up entirely, so I have started doing a few from The Flex Effect that target my problem areas and don't stretch the skin too much (As I get the feeling that that is what has been causing my young looking skin to become more slack). I am comfortable with these for now and hear good things about the cheek building exercises with this program, but would love any suggestions for the eye bags and the tiny beginnings of crows feet.
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Sun May 27, 2012 11:18 am      Reply with quote
Ok Foxescaz I think I can help you out here. If you started only 2 months ago, you may be rushing doing too many things all at once. Don't know how old you are, but I've got 10 years of facial exercises under my belt and made the same mistake as you at one time (switching a new program every few weeks) and someone finally set me straight that whatever program I did I had to give it a year to come together. They explained to me that some muscles respond very quickly like the eyes/lips and that some take a while like the forehead, and that one at the back of the head which I still can get working (think its the occiptalis or something), but the thing is you want to give whatever program your using at least 6 months of steady practie before switching. Also you sound like your doing parts of things, and thats never a good idea! take it from someone who has done it myself - you'll regret it later on. Do one program and stick with it and give it time to work!
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skincarefreak wrote:
foxescaz wrote:
TheresaCats wrote:
I've written about this in another thread but I just wanted to voice an opinion that I don't believe facial exer should be done by anyone who is under 40. I did them to ward off aging signs and instead feel like I've aged terribly as a result. My eye area appearance has completely changed and it looks terrible.


I started doing facial exercise two months ago and I now have crows feet when before I had none at all, my under eye hollows are at least twice as deep, and nasolabial folds twice as long. It's unfortunate, because I like what it's doing for my jawline. I hope that my face returns to normal eventually.


Which program are you using?


I started with a few I found on YouTube by Coreena Ong, then moved to Facercise, thinking that it would be more effective. Once I noticed negative effects I tried out both Lou Lou's Ageless If You Dare and Facial Magic with similar results. I decided to go back to the original set by Coreena, but am still noticing an increase in nasolabial folds and eyebags. I am not ready to give up entirely, so I have started doing a few from The Flex Effect that target my problem areas and don't stretch the skin too much (As I get the feeling that that is what has been causing my young looking skin to become more slack). I am comfortable with these for now and hear good things about the cheek building exercises with this program, but would love any suggestions for the eye bags and the tiny beginnings of crows feet.
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Sun May 27, 2012 11:20 am      Reply with quote
Lotusesther wrote:
For the area in front of the ears the 'ear wiggle' exercise from Shape Your Face is excellent.

http://www.shapeyourface.com/exercise_five.htm


Thank you so much for this - it really taxing! Needless to say I can't do it! But its very well described and having read it a few times now I think I know what I'm looking for and will persevere. Thank you again

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Sun May 27, 2012 11:26 am      Reply with quote
foxescaz wrote:
skincarefreak wrote:
foxescaz wrote:
TheresaCats wrote:
I've written about this in another thread but I just wanted to voice an opinion that I don't believe facial exer should be done by anyone who is under 40. I did them to ward off aging signs and instead feel like I've aged terribly as a result. My eye area appearance has completely changed and it looks terrible.


I started doing facial exercise two months ago and I now have crows feet when before I had none at all, my under eye hollows are at least twice as deep, and nasolabial folds twice as long. It's unfortunate, because I like what it's doing for my jawline. I hope that my face returns to normal eventually.


Which program are you using?


I started with a few I found on YouTube by Coreena Ong, then moved to Facercise, thinking that it would be more effective. Once I noticed negative effects I tried out both Lou Lou's Ageless If You Dare and Facial Magic with similar results. I decided to go back to the original set by Coreena, but am still noticing an increase in nasolabial folds and eyebags. I am not ready to give up entirely, so I have started doing a few from The Flex Effect that target my problem areas and don't stretch the skin too much (As I get the feeling that that is what has been causing my young looking skin to become more slack). I am comfortable with these for now and hear good things about the cheek building exercises with this program, but would love any suggestions for the eye bags and the tiny beginnings of crows feet.


There is also the possibility that you may have overbuild on you NL area - I kept working hard at this with the FE exercises and it took me quite a while to realise that the muscles were pulling tight and making it look worse, so I backed off and now it looks so much better. Also I think skin needs time to get used to being handled and I thought my skin was resilient, but I think it was showing signs of being worked too much. Just a possibility

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Sun May 27, 2012 6:00 pm      Reply with quote
I'm still a little terrified, should I stop for a while to let things settle and then start again slowly with one program? (I'm thinking eva fraser or flex effect)

TheresaMary wrote:
Ok Foxescaz I think I can help you out here. If you started only 2 months ago, you may be rushing doing too many things all at once. Don't know how old you are, but I've got 10 years of facial exercises under my belt and made the same mistake as you at one time (switching a new program every few weeks) and someone finally set me straight that whatever program I did I had to give it a year to come together. They explained to me that some muscles respond very quickly like the eyes/lips and that some take a while like the forehead, and that one at the back of the head which I still can get working (think its the occiptalis or something), but the thing is you want to give whatever program your using at least 6 months of steady practie before switching. Also you sound like your doing parts of things, and thats never a good idea! take it from someone who has done it myself - you'll regret it later on. Do one program and stick with it and give it time to work!
foxescaz wrote:
skincarefreak wrote:
foxescaz wrote:
TheresaCats wrote:
I've written about this in another thread but I just wanted to voice an opinion that I don't believe facial exer should be done by anyone who is under 40. I did them to ward off aging signs and instead feel like I've aged terribly as a result. My eye area appearance has completely changed and it looks terrible.


I started doing facial exercise two months ago and I now have crows feet when before I had none at all, my under eye hollows are at least twice as deep, and nasolabial folds twice as long. It's unfortunate, because I like what it's doing for my jawline. I hope that my face returns to normal eventually.


Which program are you using?


I started with a few I found on YouTube by Coreena Ong, then moved to Facercise, thinking that it would be more effective. Once I noticed negative effects I tried out both Lou Lou's Ageless If You Dare and Facial Magic with similar results. I decided to go back to the original set by Coreena, but am still noticing an increase in nasolabial folds and eyebags. I am not ready to give up entirely, so I have started doing a few from The Flex Effect that target my problem areas and don't stretch the skin too much (As I get the feeling that that is what has been causing my young looking skin to become more slack). I am comfortable with these for now and hear good things about the cheek building exercises with this program, but would love any suggestions for the eye bags and the tiny beginnings of crows feet.
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Mon May 28, 2012 12:30 am      Reply with quote
Foxescaz thats a good idea to stop for a while, and I think that it will improve when you stop and then you can start back with just one program, but I think you got to realise that switching programs in a short space of only 2 months is probably what hasn't helped here. At one point I did exactly the same as you, and I couldn't understand why but my face took on a horrible look which I then tried to overcompensate for by doing a mix of exercises from all the programs that I owned, as I figured that would help even things out and of course it didn't. It wasn't till a trainer on the FlexEffect forum pointed out to me that I was overdoing things and of course overworking my muscles. Sometimes I do think that it would be nice if all the programs had a forum you could pop along to, and to be honest its something that I do think Deb deserves credit for at Flexeffect because many times its been a god send to me. there was ones a forum for Ageless which Loulou just neglected and lots of people who had issues popped over to Flexeffect and got help and assistance there that they should have got at the ageless forum imho. I do think that Carolyn Cleaves is also good in that she answers every email but sometimes to me they are kind of repeated responses (and similar to the old Flexeffect responses i.e. just keep going and have faith in the program). I do wish her and Carole Maggio would open their own forum because there is lots that we could learn from them both as a group rather than in short limited one to one email responses. Still thtas just the way it goes I suppose.

foxescaz wrote:
I'm still a little terrified, should I stop for a while to let things settle and then start again slowly with one program? (I'm thinking eva fraser or flex effect)

TheresaMary wrote:
Ok Foxescaz I think I can help you out here. If you started only 2 months ago, you may be rushing doing too many things all at once. Don't know how old you are, but I've got 10 years of facial exercises under my belt and made the same mistake as you at one time (switching a new program every few weeks) and someone finally set me straight that whatever program I did I had to give it a year to come together. They explained to me that some muscles respond very quickly like the eyes/lips and that some take a while like the forehead, and that one at the back of the head which I still can get working (think its the occiptalis or something), but the thing is you want to give whatever program your using at least 6 months of steady practie before switching. Also you sound like your doing parts of things, and thats never a good idea! take it from someone who has done it myself - you'll regret it later on. Do one program and stick with it and give it time to work!
foxescaz wrote:
skincarefreak wrote:
foxescaz wrote:
TheresaCats wrote:
I've written about this in another thread but I just wanted to voice an opinion that I don't believe facial exer should be done by anyone who is under 40. I did them to ward off aging signs and instead feel like I've aged terribly as a result. My eye area appearance has completely changed and it looks terrible.


I started doing facial exercise two months ago and I now have crows feet when before I had none at all, my under eye hollows are at least twice as deep, and nasolabial folds twice as long. It's unfortunate, because I like what it's doing for my jawline. I hope that my face returns to normal eventually.


Which program are you using?


I started with a few I found on YouTube by Coreena Ong, then moved to Facercise, thinking that it would be more effective. Once I noticed negative effects I tried out both Lou Lou's Ageless If You Dare and Facial Magic with similar results. I decided to go back to the original set by Coreena, but am still noticing an increase in nasolabial folds and eyebags. I am not ready to give up entirely, so I have started doing a few from The Flex Effect that target my problem areas and don't stretch the skin too much (As I get the feeling that that is what has been causing my young looking skin to become more slack). I am comfortable with these for now and hear good things about the cheek building exercises with this program, but would love any suggestions for the eye bags and the tiny beginnings of crows feet.
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:53 am      Reply with quote
Hi All,

If you've

(a) Been scared that FlexEffect is too aggressive,

(b) Or were worried about Nonie having said that people can ruin their faces,

Please visit

http://flexeffect.proboards.com/board/35/carolyns-facial-fitness-nonie-aka

to be better informed about what was happening behind-the-scenes with Nonie's campaign against FlexEffect.

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I'm posting this because I think it's important that people not be scared off of facial exercises in general...which is what I fear Nonie's posting inadvertently did...

And there are lots of people on the EDS forum who have tried more than one exercise program, so please feel free to ask questions. I know lots of EDS posters are more than willing to share opinions and to help you find a program that you will love.

I hope this helps!

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My take on it is this: don't overdo it. All we're trying to do is replace lost fat and stop muscles and the skin attached to the muscles from sagging. I used to use Flexeffect and about a year ago switched to Ageless, because Flexeffect was taking me too long.

Everyone says I look 10 years younger than I am, and switching programmes doesn't seem to have changed that (would prefer 15 years younger by now though...).

I found that Flexeffect does emphasise 'building' in the booklet, maybe because Deb was a bodybuilder and really understands that. But it might tempt some people to overdo it a bit - we don't want a six-pack on our faces, after all.

Also, however carefully I follow the facial exercise instructions, I found other work is needed for some wrinkles (upper lip and parentheses in my case). Needling is the answer to those for me. So don't expect facial exercises to be the only approach you'll need.
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Yep, the upper lip is still an issue for me. I just started Retin-A in preparation for CIT.

I agree with you regarding any body/facial building programme. Anything can turn out wrong if you overdo it.

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Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:57 am      Reply with quote
I don't think that's fair to say that everyone shares that same goal, when I came to facial exercises I wanted to reduce dramatic sag after weightloss.

I also think that different people and age groups and genetics are attracted to different programs, so it takes time to figure that out too.

Plus you are right about needing other things, but I think in the beginning sticking with one program for a period of time is a good idea and then adding gradually when you know your face is sensible. I don't do any one program completely because I have been working my muscles for over 10 years (probably more like 15 ha ha but I'm not saying) but like program owners do they make programs based on their own particular needs and so they don't work for everyon.

Just my take!
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My take on it is this: don't overdo it. All we're trying to do is replace lost fat and stop muscles and the skin attached to the muscles from sagging. I used to use Flexeffect and about a year ago switched to Ageless, because Flexeffect was taking me too long.

Everyone says I look 10 years younger than I am, and switching programmes doesn't seem to have changed that (would prefer 15 years younger by now though...).

I found that Flexeffect does emphasise 'building' in the booklet, maybe because Deb was a bodybuilder and really understands that. But it might tempt some people to overdo it a bit - we don't want a six-pack on our faces, after all.

Also, however carefully I follow the facial exercise instructions, I found other work is needed for some wrinkles (upper lip and parentheses in my case). Needling is the answer to those for me. So don't expect facial exercises to be the only approach you'll need.
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