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Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:55 am  |
A concept I have struggled to understand when it comes to such home care regimes as peels, retinoids, dermarolling etc. is the concept of skin inflammation and the fact that inflammation can be good OR bad, depending...but depending on what exactly?
There appears to be no consensus on this issue. If there is, I have not come across it yet.
From what I have read, there are two kinds of inflammation, regular inflammation and subclinical or micro-inflammation.
Regular inflammation seems obvious - reddened skin, painful, peeling skin, etc.
Subclinical inflammation is apparently invisible and accumulates slowly over time as part of the natural aging process.
Regular inflammation can stem from sunburns, overuse of retinoids, dermarolling, etc.
Subclinical inflammation results from the normal aging process and also from....dermarolling? retinoids? (I do not know the answer to this piece)
I have been reading a dermatology textbook and came across this statement:
"The manifestation of this inflammation-induced degradation of the dermis will not become apparent for a while, as the production of fresh collagen and elastin supercedes the destruction caused by the activity of the inflammation-induced proteases."
Presumably, while we are young, we are still producing enough collagen and elastin that it "overrides" the natural inflammation process. (?)
I interpret this to mean that as long as you are laying down more new collagen and elastin than you are losing through subclinical inflammation, that you are still ahead of the game, so to speak?
The tricky part it seems is judging the point at which you are doing more harm than good.
Thoughts, comments, ideas??
BF |
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:36 am |
| I have thought about it too and my understanding is that rosacea and forms arthritis are connected to inflammation. I know there are anti inflammation diets to help with arthritis. The article you referred to is interesting ... Is it wise to add to the naturally occurring inflammation? |
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:59 pm |
Have you read some of the inflammation articles I shared some time ago? If not, feel free to PM me and I will email them to you (they are not available online).
But I will need your email address to do so! |
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:39 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
Have you read some of the inflammation articles I shared some time ago? If not, feel free to PM me and I will email them to you (they are not available online).
But I will need your email address to do so! |
I was thinking too of that email you shared from Horst himself... |
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:19 pm |
I definitely feel that topical retinoids have done more damage than good in the long run for me. I started using retin a micro at 19 to treat acne, and my undereyes started to gradually permanently crinkle and wrinkle, literally within a few months of use (and they were as smooth as a baby's bottom before).
This is a phenomena that many young gals (and guys, I remember one fellow posting a photo about this exact thing last year) using retinoids have experienced, though there have been quite a few who have dismissed it to "it is all in your head" or "you just need to moisturize more" nope...the wrinkles are there to stay. My only hope now is to see if the dermaroller can help in that area. And, I would only do 1 intense roll, not the weekly or even monthly rolls that some do. |
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