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Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:30 am      Reply with quote
I am in an online discussion with some grad students in dermatology, some sunscreen developers, etc. and they are challenging me on the micro-inflammation issue - wanting to understand it further (the invisible undetectable type of inflammation) and now I cannot find the reference material.

I went to the dermarolling articles, but did not find it there - can anyone remind me where the research was on this issue so I can refer them to it?

I am hoping to come back and share some of the info here too, from them.

Thanks, BF
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Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:27 pm      Reply with quote
Not sure if this will have the info in it you are looking for or not.

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29860&highlight=dermaroller+articles

You could also PM Bethany and see if she has any of the information or know where on the thread you can find it?
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Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:46 am      Reply with quote
Hi rileygirl, you are always soooo helpful, thank you so much for always chiming in for me.

Do you drink Starbucks by any chance? LOL

I have already sent some of these along - was hoping to find the reference that was less about rolling and more about micro-inflammation.

Still looking! Thanks, BF
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Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:59 am      Reply with quote
Barefootgirl wrote:
Hi rileygirl, you are always soooo helpful, thank you so much for always chiming in for me.

Do you drink Starbucks by any chance? LOL

I have already sent some of these along - was hoping to find the reference that was less about rolling and more about micro-inflammation.

Still looking! Thanks, BF


Laughing Not Starbucks, but I LOVE my coffee!

I'll keep looking for you, as well, BFgirl. I am curious as to their take on this, as well!
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:30 pm      Reply with quote
Well, I can repeat the advice from over there so far -

Recommended:

Serums:

C+E+Ferulic

Biomedic brand

Azaleic Acid for Acne

Ectoin as an antioxidant

Sunscreens - most important - physical over chemical except for Bioderma and Avene Emulsion

Will report back more after they answer some of my questions.

BF
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Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:49 am      Reply with quote
Don't know whether this will be of any interest to you. The article recommends LED treatments for dealing with micro-inflammation - but then it's by the Curelight people.

http://www.curelight.com/_Uploads/80Photorejuvenation.pdf

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Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:54 am      Reply with quote
I've never heard of Azaleic acid for acne. I use salycilic acid & glycolic acid.... Can you tell me more about this, and what percentages are used in what kind of compound? Is this something you can DIY?
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Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:56 am      Reply with quote
I've never heard of Ectoin either. I did a quick search on Google, but couldn't find any skin care brands that use this ingredient. Barefootgirl, is this something for oral consumption or topical use? Would anyone have more info on this? Thanks!

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Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:23 am      Reply with quote
butterflyrainbow wrote:
I've never heard of Azaleic acid for acne. I use salycilic acid & glycolic acid.... Can you tell me more about this, and what percentages are used in what kind of compound? Is this something you can DIY?


Finacea Gel contains Azaleic Acid - see this thread:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=30513&highlight=finacea+gel

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Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:39 am      Reply with quote
In case anyone is interested regarding the Ectoin.

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowFulltext&ArtikelNr=80216&Ausgabe=230372&ProduktNr=224194

There is an Isomers product that contains ectoin. As well as Shiseido Bio Performance Super Restoring Cream and Rare Minerals Skin Revival Night Treatment.

Link for the isomers product:

http://www.shopnbc.com/product/?familyid=C23320&storeid=1&track=-20101&page=LIST&free_text=desert%20youth&cm_re=SearchList-_-N-_-N
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Wow what luck! I picked up a bottle of the Rare Minerals products when I went on holiday a couple months ago and completely forgot about it after I got home Laughing . I just dug it out from the back of my bathroom cabinet and will start using it tomorrow!! I checked out the Isomers product and while it looks like it should have a higher percentage of Ectoin as it is #2 on the list of ingredients, it is too bad that it contains silicones as well as the Shiseido product (I'm not a fan of silicones..). Anyways, a huge thanks to both BFgirl and rileygirl for alerting me to this hot new ingredient!

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Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:13 am      Reply with quote
Thanks for the link to the azaleic thread. I read most of it and it seems like its worth trying!
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