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Mari Jane
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:17 am      Reply with quote
Hope you can be patient with me, I am new here and also new to skin care that involves more than water and a good washcloth. I do get Botox treatments, though.

It's mostly SkinMedica that I am confused about, really. Let me explain a bit.

When I went to Botox night not long ago, a representative of SkinMedica was there to talk about the product. Someone asked him what the difference was between Obagi NuDerm and SkinMedica. He said that Obagi worked on the outer part of the skin and SkinMedica worked for underneath the skin. I thought that was interesting and then someone asked if they could be used together. The main thing he recommended using with Obagi was the TNS Essential Serum.

Well, the other day, I went in for a different treatment (laser hair removal). While I was there, I asked the nurse about Obagi NuDerm because I've been interested in trying that system for a while. She recommended SkinMedica and said that it basically did the same thing as the Obagi but was gentler on the skin.

So, now I am very confused because those two explanations seem very different to me.

I'm still tending toward wanting to try the Obagi, especially since it appears to be quite a bit less expensive than SkinMedica. Also, with the Obagi, I can understand what products are needed and how they're supposed to be used. But reading the SkinMedica information still leaves me confused about it.

Can anyone explain the real difference?

I basically am noticing the effects of getting older and sun damage from my younger years, and would like to feel renewed and to have a fresher looking skin. However, I really don't feel ready to go quite as far as having a major chemical peel. I'd rather do something more gradual and something that I can stop if I don't like it.

Any help or information about this would be appreciated so much! Thank you.
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:54 pm      Reply with quote
What kind of systems does SkinMedica have? I'm not very familiar with their products so I was wondering how they were similar to Obagi?

If you review some of the Obagi threads, you'll see that there are many, many people who have been very pleased with their results -- specifically those using Nuderm. What kind of skin issues are you wanting to address?

Ok, I just looked this up and I see that they do have kits like Obagi: TNS Recovery and TNS Hyperpigmentation. The Hyperpigmentation kit sounds a lot like the Obagi Nuderm kit (at least it seems to address the same issues) It does sound interesting! Since the Hyperpigmentation kit cannot be purchased online, do you know what the cost is for it?

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Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:17 pm      Reply with quote
Oh. Embarassed

Well, now I see it in one of the brochures that I picked up. Thank you for pointing that out, kims, I didn't realize that's what it was called, Hyperpigmentation. Also, the brochure doesn't go into great detail about what's in it.

There are so many other individual products that seem very expensive, like the TNS essential syrum I was noticing is $250 just on its own.

But I've found the Skinmedica TNS Hyperpigmentation system can be got online. I don't know if we're supposed to give links, so I won't, but at a place called Astonishing Skin Care, it is listed as costing $463 but can be as high as $488. From what I can tell, it does look very similar to Obagi, except for TNS Recovery complex - this is one of the things the man brought up that night and he said it's based on human skin cells.

I had actually already ordered an Obagi NuDerm kit online but when the nurse brought up SkinMedica, I became confused. I think I will stick with trying the Obagi first.

Thanks again.
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:45 pm      Reply with quote
I'm using Obagi Nuderm right now -- just finished up my 18th week! But, I'm doing the 24 week plan, so I've got one more cycle to go.

Have you started Nuderm? This forum has helped me out tremendously with its support and experience. The EDS members are great!

Keep us posted and let us know how you're doing!

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Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:56 pm      Reply with quote
The TNS Recovery Complex seems to be the only "extra" in the Skinmedica Hyperpigmentation kit. It also uses a Vit C product which you can also purchase and use with Nuderm.

Also, you will need to purchase Retin A (tretinoin) to be used with the Obagi Blender. Retin A is a prescription product.

These are the main differences that I see. I guess the TNS Recovery Complex is what makes this kit more expensive than Nuderm.

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Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:42 pm      Reply with quote
Kims, yes, as a matter of fact, I just started it last night. I did the night routine last night, then did the morning routine today.

I had already ordered the NuDerm starter kit but when the nurse brought up SkinMedica, it made me wonder and I was thinking of sending it back.

In addition to the starter kit, I also ordered the C syrum, tretinoin, and eye cream.

Anyway, I decided to just go ahead with the Obagi because I have heard such good things about it. I haven't noticed any burning or tingling, as I was expecting, but maybe that takes a few days to start? It has a slightly slick feel but it doesn't feel greasy to me and so I don't mind it.

Thank you for asking. (:

How do you find the NuDerm, after 18 weeks?
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:49 pm      Reply with quote
I dont think the 2 are similar, the obagi system can make you peel A LOT, but then no pain, no gain. TNS is much gentler.its make from baby foreskin I think or they reproduce the cells in a petri dish...something to that effect anyway...I used to use it and liked it but I am using different products right now.
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:40 pm      Reply with quote
Nuderm can be an interesting road to take and albeit -- not always an easy one!

After 18 weeks, I feel like my skin is in better shape than it has ever been in. Most of my pigmentation issues are gone and my skin just looks firmer and more toned. I'm continuing for another cycle because the texture still isn't where I want it to be. My plastic surgeon suggested another 8 weeks and then I'll go on maintenance.

What skin issues are you wishing to address? If you've read through some of the Obagi threads on the forum, you'll see many posters who've been very pleased with their results.

Knock on wood that you're not red and peely yet!! Tomorrow may be a different story! Smile

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