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Oubeautiskin
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:44 pm  |
Hi all,
I have been using 302 products close to 9 mths, initially i experienced some darkening but that subsided after sometime. However, recently i have been having some allergic reactions-dryness, itchiness, flaking and swollen eyes....wonder if this has anything to do with my Neutrogena Cleanser with contains citric acid? Does anyone know if citric acid is compatible with 302 products? I have been looking for cleanser without citric acid for sometime now but so far no luck. I would really appreciate if anyone could recommend a 302 compatible cleanser besides the calmskin cleanser. BTW, i already have the 302 FB bar and 302 cleanser- just need 1 more cleanser to rotate... |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:56 am |
| Citric acid is not compatible with 302. Maybe you can just cleanse with warm water? I only use the cleanser in the morning and just wash my face with water at night. |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:31 pm |
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| I wonder if anyone has heard from Boski, I hope she's well? |
I know! I miss her. |
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:08 pm |
Wondering if this would be compatible with 302. Here are the ingredients...anyone?
Water (Purified), Vegetable Glycerin, Lavender Alcohol (Organic), Green Clay, Gigartina Papillata (Wildcrafted Seaweed), White Bentonite, Camellia Sinensis (Organic Green Tea Powder), Matcha Tea Powder (Organic), ALAria Marginata (Wildcrafted Sea Vegetable Powder), Glycerol Stearate, Soy Lecithin, Chondrus Crispus (Wildcrafted Irish Moss), Sucrose Stearate, Saccharum Officinarum Extract (Organic Cane Sugar), Simmondsia Chinensis Seed Oil (Organic Jojoba Seed Oil), Helianthus Annuus (Organic Sunflower Seed Oil), Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Organic Essential Oils of:, Citrus Reticulata (Green Mandarin), Myrtus Communis (Green Myrtle), Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender), Ocimum Basilicum Var. Linalol (Basil Linalol), Organic Herbal Extracts of:, Ilex Paraguariensis (Yerba Mate Tea), Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber), Calendula Officinalis (Calendula), Laminaria Digitata (Kelp), Lycium Eleagnus Barbarum (Goji Berry), Euterpe Oleracea Fruit Extract (Acai Berry), Citrus Limon (Lemon Peel), Mentha Piperita (Peppermint), Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary), Xanthan Gum |
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Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:59 am |
| xusia wrote: |
| Thanks SkinCareJunkie! But I'm a guy and would the powder make it look like I have makeup on? |
Xusia,
Did you ever find a sunscreen that works? I use the 302 mineral sunscreen. I use the 302 SPF 30 liquid sunscreen then brush the mineral over top. It does leave my skin with a tint. If you just use the 302 mineral sunscreen it doesn't leave as much as a tint.
You may want to try the Premium mineral sunscreen. It's a white powder.
The problem with mineral sunscreens is you have to apply quite a bit to achieve adequate protection (from what I've read).
So I hope this helps!
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Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:01 am |
| nakeidknits wrote: |
Wondering if this would be compatible with 302. Here are the ingredients...anyone?
Water (Purified), Vegetable Glycerin, Lavender Alcohol (Organic), Green Clay, Gigartina Papillata (Wildcrafted Seaweed), White Bentonite, Camellia Sinensis (Organic Green Tea Powder), Matcha Tea Powder (Organic), ALAria Marginata (Wildcrafted Sea Vegetable Powder), Glycerol Stearate, Soy Lecithin, Chondrus Crispus (Wildcrafted Irish Moss), Sucrose Stearate, Saccharum Officinarum Extract (Organic Cane Sugar), Simmondsia Chinensis Seed Oil (Organic Jojoba Seed Oil), Helianthus Annuus (Organic Sunflower Seed Oil), Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Organic Essential Oils of:, Citrus Reticulata (Green Mandarin), Myrtus Communis (Green Myrtle), Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender), Ocimum Basilicum Var. Linalol (Basil Linalol), Organic Herbal Extracts of:, Ilex Paraguariensis (Yerba Mate Tea), Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber), Calendula Officinalis (Calendula), Laminaria Digitata (Kelp), Lycium Eleagnus Barbarum (Goji Berry), Euterpe Oleracea Fruit Extract (Acai Berry), Citrus Limon (Lemon Peel), Mentha Piperita (Peppermint), Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary), Xanthan Gum |
The only thing I could find that might be of help is this blog entry.
http://dannyvanity.blogspot.com/2009/11/intergrating-302.html |
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Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:03 am |
| Oubeautiskin wrote: |
Hi all,
I have been using 302 products close to 9 mths, initially i experienced some darkening but that subsided after sometime. However, recently i have been having some allergic reactions-dryness, itchiness, flaking and swollen eyes....wonder if this has anything to do with my Neutrogena Cleanser with contains citric acid? Does anyone know if citric acid is compatible with 302 products? I have been looking for cleanser without citric acid for sometime now but so far no luck. I would really appreciate if anyone could recommend a 302 compatible cleanser besides the calmskin cleanser. BTW, i already have the 302 FB bar and 302 cleanser- just need 1 more cleanser to rotate... |
Have you thought about purchasing the Acne Cleanser? This is my favorite one! It has helped clear up my Acne.
Another route you may want to try is the Oil Cleansing Method. I use Organic Coconut oil to wash with sometimes. |
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Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:49 pm |
Skincarejunkie,
I still haven't found a sunscreen that would work for me. I have already tried the 302 sunscreen but it makes my face break out badly. What I've also noticed is that the more I wash my face (only twice a day, I use sensitive cleanser and the bar) the dryer it becomes. It gets really sensitive/dry and I'd have to stop using the actives for a couple days and just use argan oil as a moisturizer. If I just wash my face with warm water and use the cleanser maybe once a couple day it will slowly calm my face. It's annoying because it seems like I'm going back and forth with the same path. Maybe these cleansers are not for me? What do you guys think? TIA~ |
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Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:54 pm |
| BTW I'm also using the easy eye solutions if that makes any difference. It's my understanding that the product is compatible with the 302 line? |
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Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:23 am |
| xusia wrote: |
Skincarejunkie,
I still haven't found a sunscreen that would work for me. I have already tried the 302 sunscreen but it makes my face break out badly. What I've also noticed is that the more I wash my face (only twice a day, I use sensitive cleanser and the bar) the dryer it becomes. It gets really sensitive/dry and I'd have to stop using the actives for a couple days and just use argan oil as a moisturizer. If I just wash my face with warm water and use the cleanser maybe once a couple day it will slowly calm my face. It's annoying because it seems like I'm going back and forth with the same path. Maybe these cleansers are not for me? What do you guys think? TIA~ |
Xusia,
I'm sorry you haven't found a sunscreen that works!
When you started using 302 did you use acids before? I know there can be some purging when you stop using acids.
Did you have acne prior to using the cleansers?
Also how long have you been using Argan oil? Did you just start using it?
What actives are you using? For along time I couldn't use any actives all I did was cleanse my face. You don't have to cleanse your face everyday. You may just want to cleanse it once a day.
Sorry for all the questions I'm just trying to help you out!
As far as easy eye solutions go, if your not using the 302 eye treatment I don't think it should matter. |
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Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:29 pm |
SkinCareJunkie,
I did use acids before I started using 302 but I stopped using all of them for about 2 weeks before I started using any of the actives (it went REALLY well for a while until my skin somehow started to dry out). I'm currently on the C boost and 302 drops right now, rotating them every other day and rest on Sunday. What I did notice is that I get less irritation from the C boost than the 302 drop. I was already using Argan Oil prior to the 302 treatment so I know that it's not the Argan Oil as it actually calms my skin. I have mild acne (I get probably 2 small whiteheads a week). Do you think I started the actives too soon? TIA~ |
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seilla
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Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:42 am |
| Oubeautiskin wrote: |
Hi all,
I have been using 302 products close to 9 mths, initially i experienced some darkening but that subsided after sometime. However, recently i have been having some allergic reactions-dryness, itchiness, flaking and swollen eyes....wonder if this has anything to do with my Neutrogena Cleanser with contains citric acid? Does anyone know if citric acid is compatible with 302 products? I have been looking for cleanser without citric acid for sometime now but so far no luck. I would really appreciate if anyone could recommend a 302 compatible cleanser besides the calmskin cleanser. BTW, i already have the 302 FB bar and 302 cleanser- just need 1 more cleanser to rotate... |
Hi,
I had the same problem when I mixed product(Neutrogena SPF 50) with 302 products. I have stopped using Neutrogena and am just using 302 products and my skin is looking good. Its been 7 months now and my skin keeps improving and am loving it.Thank you.
Regards
Seilla |
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:50 am |
| xusia wrote: |
SkinCareJunkie,
I did use acids before I started using 302 but I stopped using all of them for about 2 weeks before I started using any of the actives (it went REALLY well for a while until my skin somehow started to dry out). I'm currently on the C boost and 302 drops right now, rotating them every other day and rest on Sunday. What I did notice is that I get less irritation from the C boost than the 302 drop. I was already using Argan Oil prior to the 302 treatment so I know that it's not the Argan Oil as it actually calms my skin. I have mild acne (I get probably 2 small whiteheads a week). Do you think I started the actives too soon? TIA~ |
Hi Ya,
I would cut out the actives for now. If I remember from reading the older thread some people had issues with starting actives too soon. So I would just cleanse your face and use your Argan Oil. Then I would add one active at a time. I hope this helps. I'm not sure who you ordered your products from. If you ordered from Jennifer she is always happy to help!
Wishing you great skin |
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:26 pm |
SkinCareJunkie,
I got the product via Jennifer but she doesn't have any suggestion on the sunblocks either. I called a local 302 provider and she recommended Dermalogica super sensitive faceblock spf30. Here's the ingredient list:
Active Ingredients: Titanium Dioxide 6.7%, Zinc Oxide 9.2%
Inactive Ingredients: Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Butylene Glycol, Dicaprylyl Ether, Polyglyceryl-3 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl Dimethicone, Dimethicone/vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearic Acid, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Lavandula Hybrida Oil, Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Tocopherol, Dimethicone/PEG-10/15 Crosspolymer, Lauryl PEG-9 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl Dimethicone, Triethoxysilylethyl Polydimethylsiloxyethyl Hexyl Dimethicone, Caprylic/capric Triglyceride, Sodium DNA, Sodium Hyaluronate, Sodium PCA, Dipotassium Glycyrrhizate, Silica, Carbomer, Sodium Chloride, Sodium Citrate, Linalool, Tetrasodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben.
do you guys think this will work? TIA~ |
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:22 am |
Xusia,
Have you tried the 302 Ointment Rx as a sunscreen? It has a 20SPF. I couldn't use the regular 302 sunscreen, but this one works for me... |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:35 pm |
Hi Xusia!
I'm really glad Jennifer found you a sunscreen! It looks like a great product! I like the fact it's not loaded with ingredients.
If that doesn't work out like Nakeidknits said you could try the ointment.
Keep us posted!  |
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:58 pm |
| So I've tried the sunblock for a couple days and haven't had a break out which is good! But I've been off the 302 drops and only used the C boost every other day therefore I'm not sure if it's compatible with Avogen yet. The sunblock itself has a very thin consistency and gives a nice coconut smell. It doesn't even feel like I'm wearing a sunblock after it's applied. However my face got red even though I wasn't even in the sun for more than 30 minutes (I work in an office and the drive to work is about 15 minutes). Does any of you reapply the sunscreen during the day? TIA~ |
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:33 pm |
| xusia wrote: |
| So I've tried the sunblock for a couple days and haven't had a break out which is good! But I've been off the 302 drops and only used the C boost every other day therefore I'm not sure if it's compatible with Avogen yet. The sunblock itself has a very thin consistency and gives a nice coconut smell. It doesn't even feel like I'm wearing a sunblock after it's applied. However my face got red even though I wasn't even in the sun for more than 30 minutes (I work in an office and the drive to work is about 15 minutes). Does any of you reapply the sunscreen during the day? TIA~ |
Hi Xusia,
I'm really glad your loving your sunscreen! I'm glad you haven't had any breakouts. I would just keep doing the C boost for awhile.
I'm not sure why your face got red. Maybe it was something in the sunscreen? I don't reapply my sunscreen throughout out the day. I make sure I apply 1/4 teaspoon to over my face and neck. You could reapply it during the day if you want too. Do you wear sunglasses or a hat? It helps provide extra protection!
Keep us posted on your progress! |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:02 pm |
YAY Nemo's blog! Thanks for posting that SCJ. |
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:03 pm |
| fadedgirl wrote: |
YAY Nemo's blog! Thanks for posting that SCJ. |
No problem hun! |
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:02 pm |
| SkinCareJunkie wrote: |
| fadedgirl wrote: |
YAY Nemo's blog! Thanks for posting that SCJ. |
No problem hun! |
I didn't know he had a blog..awesome! |
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:03 pm |
| And he has pics, it was so cool to see him after reading all of his posts. |
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Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:40 pm |
Hello all. I hope you don't mind my crashing your thread. I have read a lot about 302 Skincare in the last day or two. This product line mainly caught my attention because of the part about not using acids or things like BP on the skin.
I used ProActiv from about 2001-2006 and it caused a lot of irritation, chronic inflammation, UV sensitivity, and damaged my skin, making it look significantly older.
In 2006 I started looking for alternatives to ProActiv, and eventually went to using homemade aspirin toner and/or aspirin masks for a while to keep my skin under control during this transition. It took me a while to wean off of the ProActiv, as anyone who has used BP probably knows, it is difficult to just stop using it with out getting terrible rebound acne. The aspirin masks and toner kept my skin pretty clear, but I didn't feel good about the long term effects of using acidic aspirin on my face.
I ended up switching to the Acne Gel sold by Best Bath Store which was almost completely natural, it's main active ingredient being manuka honey which is very gentle and healing. It proved to be a much better alternative to ProActiv, though not completely non-irritating.
I also went back to using completely natural products by Aubrey Organics including their Sea Buckthorn Cleanser and an exfoliating scrub, along with Emu Oil as a facial moisturizer, which helped a lot and started to finally decrease my skin's chronic inflammation a bit, though I still had a long way to go.
At this point I could see some improvement, but I still tended to have a lot of irritation and redness in my face, and it didn't take much to get red bumps, although I was usually able to keep them from turning into full blown acne blemishes.
Well, to make a long story even longer... I came across some information about washing your face with only water, which made a lot of sense to me and was accompanied by many rave reviews... which led me to reading some posts on this site about certain microfiber cloths used with water only.
I ended up buying a $10 Wonder Cloth last year and committed to using only water to wash my face (with the wonder cloth) in the mornings, and also in the evenings if I wasn't wearing any makeup. The Wonder Cloth can completely remove makeup without cleanser, but then you have to clean it off the cloth. Since I'm lazy, if I have makeup on, I use either Aubrey Organics Everyday Liquid Body Soap, or their Sea Buckthorn cleanser - apply it with my hands, rinse it off along with any makeup, and then I go over my face twice with the Wonder Cloth. (Gently.)
The idea behind this method is to restore your skin's natural, protective mantle. I have know a few women over the years who never got into using cleansers, exfoliators, toners, makeup etc. and they always had perfect poreless, unblemished skin their whole lives, which seemed to support this philosophy.
After I dried my face, I would spray it with Heritage Rosewater Spray and then apply my Emu Oil. For a while I was still applying the Acne Treatment Gel every once in a while since I was still afraid of breakouts, but other than that... I didn't use any harsh product or synthetic chemicals on my face.
I have to say, the results were really incredible. The irritation and redness went way down, and I noticed pretty quickly that the scarring looked tremendously reduced on my cheeks. That really surprised me.
Breakouts were also reduced, and I pretty much stopped breaking out other than TTOTM, which was minimal. I think this was because my skin was so much less irritated washing it with water, and because the Wonder Cloth exfoliated so well, but much more gently than any topical product.
My skin became much more smooth, and I was thrilled to have the fine lines and scars diminish, and my chronically enlarged pores have almost disappeared.
This year I have switched from Emu Oil to Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil after reading a blog post by the owner of Adorned With Grace Minerals, which shed new light on why it can actually help prevent breakouts.
(I also started using Lucy Minerals foundation this year which has Coffee Fruit extract in it, and I have also been super impressed with that too.)
Anyway... the reason I have posted all of this in great detail on this particular thread is because after reading what I have about 302 Skincare and comparing it with my own experience just quitting and weaning from harsh irritating ingredients and even cleansers most of the time... it made me wonder how much of the benefit that people find following the 302 Skincare protocol is due to going off of acids and other irritating chemicals.
As someone who used BP and salicylic acid for so many years, the improvement just by giving those up and finding a natural and non-irritating routine has given my skin a chance to recover and heal... and the results have been tremendous. I am turning 45 and still get carded. (I love to see the shock on the person's face when they see my birth date and do a double take.)
So is there really something about the way they chemically changed avocado in a lab, (so that they could patent a natural substance and charge a ridiculous amount of money,) that really makes the difference? I don't know... but I can't help but ponder the question given my own experience.
I thought about trying it just to see, but for me personally, the products are not natural enough to take the chance, and way too pricey considering the results I am getting from water, a reusable cloth, rosewater spray and organic coconut oil. (And recently also the coffee fruit extract in my mineral makeup. - I'm even thinking of adding a bit of either reservatol or coffeeberry to my coconut oil so I can have the benefits on the rest of my body instead of just my face where I apply my mineral makeup.)
So... I hope this post doesn't offend or annoy anyone who uses the pricey 302 Skincare line. I just thought I would share my experience in case it could help someone who wants to get a similar result using a non-irritating routine, and also because I'm interested if anyone has any opinions on my theory that perhaps all or most of the benefits come from stopping the use of irritating products and instead using natural (or in the case of 302 somewhat natural) products. My way is much simpler and way easier on the wallet.
PS: Sorry for writing so much, but I like to try and be as precise as possible about all the variables involved... in case anyone finds my ramblings helpful. |
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