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Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:41 pm |
I have suffered from KP for most of my life without knowing what it was unil just about 2 years ago. I use Am-Lactin but other than that, I don't know what else to do. The Am-Lactin helps a bit, but I still have the redness. I think there might be scarring from the years and years of KP.
Has anyone ever had microdermabrasion on their arms for this? I have heard this can help a bit.
Thanks in advance! |
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Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:08 pm |
My daughter was diagnosed w/ this in her teens and it was then that I realized I had a slight case of it too (guess that's where she got hers from LOL)
The derm had prescribed AmLactin (worked so-so) and Keralyt gel. The Keralyt worked much better. The one we used was a 6% Salicylic Acid based one. Retin A will also work really well (I like this one the best).
A BHA like salicylic acid or a retinoid like Retin A (or Tazorac, Avage, Retin A Micro, etc) will do wonders for the KP. They work inside the pore to help to unclogg the plug. Retinoids can also help to correct the ways the pores are shedding (in KP - the pores do not shed properly,thus the plugs).
To help the redness and scars that develops, use copper peptides, like the ones from Skin Biology. A cream based one would work best, like the Body Lotion or a stronger one like the TriReduction Lotion. They don't have a good smell, but they help w/ remodeling the skin. Lots of research and info on the website - happy reading.
SB also sells a BHA product that is mild, but might work for you called Exfol Cream (2% BHA) The 6% Keralyt is only available thru Rx. You might be able to find it on Canadian Pharmacy, tho. A 3% Karalyt is available on line if you do a search. You'll need an Rx for the Retin A as well, but lots of ppl get some from on line vendors. Do a search for ordering to find out.
You're not limited to the products I mention. But, keep in mind, that a BHA product or a retinoid product works best as they are designed to get inside the pore. Adding the CPs can help repair the skin. I can attest to the CPs. I've tried most of them and they work great. |
_________________ early 60's, fair skin, combo skin, very few fine lines, vertical lip lines, crows feet & 11's, fighting aging! Using Palancia HF, dermarollers, CPs, Retin A Micro, Safetox, AALS, Clairsonic |
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Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:26 am |
Long-winded, as this is near and dear to my heart.
I too have suffered from KP all of my life. I have red bumps on arms and legs and very ashy, dry skin. (When I got it under control, my SO said 'wow, you feel like a girl now!' -- ouch! but, okay, it seems to be working.)
What is depressing is that it's not curable. Successful treatment needs to be something you are willing to do constantly to keep things in control. (If it's expensive or off-putting, IMHO, it's not a great long-term treatment.)
I now have about 20 years of experimentation on this, and have only hit upon something that works well (for me) this year, which is sad.
I have tried scrubbing with loofahs, microfiber cloths, oil/salt scrubs, sugar, pumice... I have tried oils, tubes and bottles of prescription acids & lactic lotions, creams of my own concoction, ointments... (Have not tried CPs. Good tip! Will try.)
I realized that as a teen, my problem would clear up during the summer, the differences in behavior being 'I was at the pool constantly.' A lot of soaking in water, applications of baby oil, and lying in the sun. (Remember when you didn't know you shouldn't do that? Ignorant bliss.)
Now, after a lifetime of constant battle, what has been working for *me* (YMMV) starts with a 1-2x weekly manual or chemical deep exfoliation (and some mild daily maintanance exfoliation in the shower). E.g., manual: a long hot bath or hot tub dip, during or after which I scrub off whatever extra keratin has built up. OR chemical: I've been experimenting with Kate Somerville's body exfoliator and Jan Marini's bioglycolic body exfoliator (cheaper and more effective, I think, than Kate's). Whatever form it takes, though: get the excess crud off the skin so that something can penetrate it to moisturize and smooth it.
I then slather myself in Epicuren After Bath lotion. I dunno WHAT it is about Epicuren, but it works for me and smells great (they have a variety of scents and an unscented). I can actually skip a few applications and not have the condition return immediately (as I was seeing with the Lactic and BHA lotions). I'm willing to do this before bed and in the morning, because it is delightful stuff as well as efficacious.
As I said, I actually --for the first time EVER, at 40-- have skin like a girl's, and not scaly and bumpy and rough like a lizard. But if I slack off for several days... back to square one.
Second most effective method for me (lessened, skin-colored bumps but still kind of rough--and a bit stinky): KP Duty (purpose-made) cream. (Got it at Sephora, works pretty well.) Don't care much for the texture nor the smell, but if I'm out of Epicuren or just want something different, I turn to that. Meh.
Third: baby oil or Neutrogena's sesame body oil. Can't say why mineral oil (heavy) and the sesame (light) are most effective. Possibly others are, but require some sort of doctoring to remove their heavy natural scent (I don't wish to smell like salad in my bed every night forever.)
I would love to hear others' regimens and ideas. |
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Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:07 am |
Both my teenage daughters suffer from bumpy red skin on their uper arms. It's obviously genetic as my husband has it. I'm assuming this is the KP you're talking about.
Neither daughter has tried any treatment yet but I've just ordered a Clarisonic from EDS with the intention of getting them to try it out on their arms when they shower and then moisturise. I've got Cetaphil cleanser which I'll have them try first and then perhaps try out my Jan Marini Bioglycolic facial cleanser if it needs a bit more oomph.
I'll post on the success of this method when we've had a chance to try it out. |
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Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:04 am |
I have suffered from it for about 6 years and jsut found out what it was about a month ago. I purchased the AM lactin and it seems to be helping but I still do have scars. I use the MD Skincare AHA peel wipes on my arms and that seems to make the most difference. I have been told as well you must keep up with everything to keep it under control. Consistancy consistancy consistancy. |
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Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:48 am |
i also have KP but i don't go to the rounds other posters have in trying to improve it. i tend to cover up my arms alot to hide it. Someone suggested i try the Weleda Seabuckthorn body oil. Has anyone tried that? |
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Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:11 pm |
I don't have a huge problem but I found being consistent and doing it on daily basis, even if it has to be twice a day and to keep up with it.
There are two choices that worked for me. Lac-Hydrin 12% and/or Cetaphil gentle cleanser mixed with baking soda that is used when you take a shower. |
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Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:46 am |
I was the same way, I would only wear long sleeves even in the 100 degree heat of the summer.
Good tip I'm going to try the baking soda in the shower.
Somewhere I read I can't remember the exact percentage but it was very high of women suffer from KP. I was surprised at how many people do have it. |
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