Where do you buy Alpha Hydroxy Souffle?
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free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:05 am

I refuse to buy from Drugstore.com and am trying to find somewhere else to get this. I was purchasing it from Rite Aid's Online store, but when I got to the final payment stage, I realized I was buying it from Drugstore.com! ((Drugstore.com is VERY deceptive about their shipping charges. It's says free shipping right under the product name, but then at checkout you see the $5.99 shipping charges. What a scam.))

free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:04 am

Rite Aid and CVS seem to be stocked.. Alpha Hydrox also has a web site

free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:36 am

Ulta also carries it.

free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:27 pm

Rite Aid doesn't carry it in my area. I'll have to check with CVS. Any other suggestions??

free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:31 pm

Amazon too

free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:20 pm

mountaingirl wrote:

Rite Aid doesn't carry it in my area. I'll have to check with CVS. Any other suggestions??

Walgreens?

free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:14 pm

I found mine on ebay - cheap and incl. shipping too.

free skin care · Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:54 pm

You can order it from the Alpha Hydrox site.

free skin care · Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:55 am

Thanks all! I found a site and ordered it!

free skin care · Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:41 pm

I live in Canada and have only been able to obtain Alpha Hydroxy Souffle by telephone order to Neoteric Cosmetics. However, when I contacted the company this week, their telephone number is out of service and my e-mail to them has gone unanswered. Does anyone
know of an alternative alpha hydroxy product that I can substitute when I make Kassy_A's LED treatment?

free skin care · Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:27 pm

It's been getting harder and harder to find "AHS" since I let that cat out of the bag.. Laughing

An alternative is to buy pure AHA from cellbone or the like, and add it to a base cream from one of the DIY supply sites, and just make your own... You'll want your concentration to be 12%.

free skin care · Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:56 pm

Kassy_A wrote:

It's been getting harder and harder to find "AHS" since I let that cat out of the bag.. Laughing

An alternative is to buy pure AHA from cellbone or the like, and add it to a base cream from one of the DIY supply sites, and just make your own... You'll want your concentration to be 12%.

Alpha Hydrox Souffle contains 12% glycolic (AHA) acid with an effective ph of 4. It is acceptable to use a lower concentration of AHA if the ph is lower than 4. It will be equally effective. When considering any AHA or BHA product, both concentration of the active ingredient AND the overall ph are important. (Most people tend to look only at the percentage pf acid and ignore the ph of the product.)

To the best of my knowledge, Alpha Hydrox products made by Neoteric Cosmetics are not available in Canada in stores, but can be ordered online (at least they could a few months ago; not sure now).

Off the top of my head, I could suggest Paula's Choice AHA Gel ... it has 8% glycolic acid at a ph of 3.5 to 3.8; I am sure there are other suitable products available that can be substituted for Alpha Hydrox Souffle. (not sure this would be suitable for LED use though; not my area of expertise).

free skin care · Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:44 am

Kassy_A wrote:

It's been getting harder and harder to find "AHS" since I let that cat out of the bag.. Laughing

An alternative is to buy pure AHA from cellbone or the like, and add it to a base cream from one of the DIY supply sites, and just make your own... You'll want your concentration to be 12%.

Doesn't most base creams have oils in them? Not sure if they will interfere with the penetration of the LED

free skin care · Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:36 am

funkydory wrote:

Kassy_A wrote:

It's been getting harder and harder to find "AHS" since I let that cat out of the bag.. Laughing

An alternative is to buy pure AHA from cellbone or the like, and add it to a base cream from one of the DIY supply sites, and just make your own... You'll want your concentration to be 12%.

Doesn't most base creams have oils in them? Not sure if they will interfere with the penetration of the LED

Generally speaking, you are correct. If a "cream" product is properly named (meaning it is in fact a cream) it will most definitely contain both fats and oils and therefore be unacceptable for usage with an LED (since it would refract or reflect the light rays). I guess you would have to examine the ingredient list before using a cream for this purpose. At least that is my understanding.

free skin care · Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:56 am

Just cross posting the AHA treatment serum info I shared in the summer in the AALS thread;

In the meantime keep things simple with a water based serum and perhaps a bit of AHA, HA, + Green Tea Extract..

And my answer to a question related to using serums/cream that contain oils;

DON'T use that prior to an LED treatment though.. NO occlusive ingredients.

I'll just repeat what I've said many times before, do your LED treatment on bare, exfoliated skin, unless you are absolutely sure you're treatment serum has nothing that can "occlude" the light.

Water, AHA + Green tea are really all that's needed, and can be added to NCN's HA serum (water, HA + citric acid), for a lovely pre treatment serum.

Keep it simple for best results, honestly.

ETA: I think I assumed that all LED users (who are doing pre treatment) would automatically be sure the 'base cream' they choose would not have occlusive ingredients.. I don't want to sound like a broken record.. Embarassed

free skin care · Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:12 pm

Lacy53 wrote:

Kassy_A wrote:

It's been getting harder and harder to find "AHS" since I let that cat out of the bag.. Laughing

An alternative is to buy pure AHA from cellbone or the like, and add it to a base cream from one of the DIY supply sites, and just make your own... You'll want your concentration to be 12%.

Alpha Hydrox Souffle contains 12% glycolic (AHA) acid with an effective ph of 4. It is acceptable to use a lower concentration of AHA if the ph is lower than 4. It will be equally effective. When considering any AHA or BHA product, both concentration of the active ingredient AND the overall ph are important. (Most people tend to look only at the percentage pf acid and ignore the ph of the product.)

To the best of my knowledge, Alpha Hydrox products made by Neoteric Cosmetics are not available in Canada in stores, but can be ordered online (at least they could a few months ago; not sure now).

Off the top of my head, I could suggest Paula's Choice AHA Gel ... it has 8% glycolic acid at a ph of 3.5 to 3.8; I am sure there are other suitable products available that can be substituted for Alpha Hydrox Souffle. (not sure this would be suitable for LED use though; not my area of expertise).

Kassy, I think you missed the point of my post; perhaps you didn't see it, or chose not to respond to it; not sure which is the case. But I would like to expand on it now.

You have recommended to stovetop that she acquire glycolic acid from Cellbone, and add it to a base cream from a DIY supplier; you further recommended that the concentration be at 12% for her home-made product.

I checked the Cellbone site; they sell various Glycolic products, including various peels and solutions. The solutions offered are:

- 70% Unbuffered solution (pH 0.6)
- 60% Unbuffered solution (pH 0.85)
- Both of these products are "for professional use only".

- 50% Peel Gel (buffered at pH 2.4)
- 40% Peel Gel (buffered at pH 2.1 - 2.6)
- 30% Peel Gel (buffered at pH 2.1 - 2.6)
- 20% Peel Gel (buffered at pH 2.1 - 2.6)

Have you honestly considered mixing any of these products into a base prior to LED usage? What would the final pH of the product be? The Souffle product you use as an ingredient has a pH of 4.0 prior to combining with anything else. Using a cellbone glycolic peel as an ingredient has a much lower pH and this fact deserves some consideration IMHO. Simply put, these are VERY strong glycolic products!

I am also wondering about your final statement "... and add it to a base cream from one of the DIY supply sites". I will repeat and expand upon what I said before: by definition, a cream is an emulsion of either oil-in-water or water-in-oil. They are usually semi-solid topical products. Lotions are similar in composition, except they are typically oil-in- water compositions with a higher concentration of water. By definition, they ALL contain oil/fats (unless, as I suggested, the product is mislabeled as a cream when it is not really a cream). To simplify this issue, could you possibly supply the name of a base CREAM which DIYers could use that is acceptable as an LED pretreatment base (to which ingredients such as green tea or AHA are added)? I don't believe such a product can be purchased from any DIY site.

I did see your followup comment to either use LED on clean exfoliated skin or "keep it simple" but that reply does not address my concerns and questions.

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