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Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:33 am      Reply with quote
I am still looking into this, but I've read reports that certain forms of Vitamin K can positively impact skin elastin...and there are anecdotal reports from those taking the oral supplement of reduced dental plaque and *softer skin* Smile

If any one has additional information, please add it here.

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Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:27 pm      Reply with quote
I've read that it's good for dark circles?

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Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:40 pm      Reply with quote
Barefootgirl wrote:
I am still looking into this, but I've read reports that certain forms of Vitamin K can positively impact skin elastin...and there are anecdotal reports from those taking the oral supplement of reduced dental plaque and *softer skin* Smile

If any one has additional information, please add it here.

BF


Very interesting. I have not heard anything about this. All I know about Vit K is the role in blood clotting and that a deficiency results in poor wound healing. If you find out anything more, please share!
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Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:17 am      Reply with quote
Vitamin K helps in making proteins and aids in blood clotting. If you are deficient in vitamin K then you may heal slower than usual. You may also bruise easily.
If you have a deficiency in vitamin K you can have excessive bleeding after tooth extraction. Sometimes you may even have excessive or abnormal bleeding after routine dental cleaning.

I teach dentistry and have never heard of reduced dental biofilm as a result of taking vitamin K. I do pay attention to anecdotal accounts but have never heard of this.

I wonder how they measured or observed a result like that?

I had heard that the use of Aloe Vera gel for brushing(sell at Wal-mart) has benefits in reducing plaque biofilm so I tried it and cannot say it did anything noticeable. Maybe I wasn't the best candidate to test though.

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Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:54 pm      Reply with quote
Hi sister sweets,

The anecdotal reports on MK-4 are found around the internet forums and blogs, etc. - many report a sharp decline in plaque formulation and there is much speculation as to why this is occurring.


Can I ask what your opinion is of Oravive toothpaste (with Novamin?) Thanks!

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I have never tried this product but I did look at the ingredients and they seem rather typical. Oddly enough I just did a lecture on dentifrice this week. I did notice two separate abrasives - one is the Novamin patented item (probably for cleaning/polishing). Obviously this company does not endorse the use of fluorides so for that reason alone it will appeal to certain audiences. I tend to not like Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in toothpaste - though it's hard to find. For some it causes sloughing of the gingival tissues. And it is basically a detergent. Common in shampoos, etc.

I hear a lot of anecdotal stuff from patients - its always interesting. I am open to things "out of the box" and unlike many of my colleagues I listen eagerly. Maybe I'll dig around for the vitamin K blogs. From a standpoint of dental biology I cannot think of why Vitamin K would decrease the growth and maturation of plaque. But I also completely believe that Science has nowhere near all the answers.

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Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:43 am      Reply with quote
It's my impression that a lot of this research on the various forms of Vitamin K and new uses for supplementation are very recent....so that may be why some of this is just coming out now.

Not to hijack this thread...but since you are in the field, I thought I would relay my own anecdotal story - actually based on research by Dr. Keyes (of periodontal fame).

My former dentist, before he retired, was a research associate of Dr. Keyes and he was a big proponent of preventing and treating gum disease through antimicrobial methods. His quote was "You don't fight an infection with a string." In other words, flossing is important, but it can't help much with active and chronic inflammation. With the guidance of his office, I incorporated oral irrigation into my dental regimen years ago and I have had nothing but perfect gums since. Prior to that, I had a lot of problems. My parents, grandparents and great grandparents all suffered greatly from gum disease. I am happy to have halted that in my own mouth.

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