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Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:27 pm |
this is VERY interesting great find snowqueen
i use a 70% glycolic gel compound by md forte its a professional peel and works like a charm every time i use it its more expensive than other site that sell peels but i find the formulation to be very good
layering the tca and glycolic sounds like it may just work very well
like you im not sure how the tca over the gel is going to work the glycolic gel i have is a thick solution so..... m |
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Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:08 am |
londongirl wrote: |
this is VERY interesting great find snowqueen
i use a 70% glycolic gel compound by md forte its a professional peel and works like a charm every time i use it its more expensive than other site that sell peels but i find the formulation to be very good
layering the tca and glycolic sounds like it may just work very well
like you im not sure how the tca over the gel is going to work the glycolic gel i have is a thick solution so..... m |
Yes...when I tried TCA over lactic as an experiment I couldn't get it to frost at all. I am about to test the 70% Glycolic alone just to see how my skin responds. I have done heaps of TCA peels with very mixed results but for some reason I have never tried glycolic.
My intention is to work up to doing a peel as detailed by this doctor or I may even ask my derm if he will do it for me.
Just absolutely fed up with blotchy skin
cheers
rebecca |
_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:18 am |
Rebecca have you tried a salicylic acid peel done professionally?
I had my hands done last year and it completely cleared up all spots. She applied a thick paste to my hands and put clear sticky sheets over them. I left it on for 48 hours, removed the tape and washed the area. Looked all white and weird. Then began peeling full on for around a week.
She told me salicylic acid won't scar. It's a 50% mix.
Could be worth trying abit at a time. Thing is I don't think you can buy that strength over the net, so may need to have it applied by your doc. |
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:06 am |
Mishey wrote: |
Rebecca have you tried a salicylic acid peel done professionally?
I had my hands done last year and it completely cleared up all spots. She applied a thick paste to my hands and put clear sticky sheets over them. I left it on for 48 hours, removed the tape and washed the area. Looked all white and weird. Then began peeling full on for around a week.
She told me salicylic acid won't scar. It's a 50% mix.
Could be worth trying abit at a time. Thing is I don't think you can buy that strength over the net, so may need to have it applied by your doc. |
Mishey (hiya!!! you were overseas I think?? Are you back??),
This sounds great!!! Maybe I will ask my derm if he will do it...he's not back till Feb, but that sounds like a great idea. Do you know what the sheets were? Was there any significant burning? Most of the wart removal products are about 35% salicylic acid, and I think they burn a bit?? Of course I'm already thinking of trying this myself
Thanks again for this!
rebecca |
_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:36 am |
I once saw pictures from a study which applied topical vit c twice daily and a strong glycolic peel weekly to the faces of people with bad acne scars and pigmentation issues. The results after six months were fantastic. |
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Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:50 am |
Hey Rebecca. Yep I was in Thialand in November, got back on the 20th.
Well there's one place I've spoken to that sells this and I emailed them. They say it's 70% strength mixed with olive oil.(Again for warts and keratosis) So I guess that could be diluted alittle hey. They've never heard of it being used for a peel so they couldn't help there, but are interested in knowing what happens if it does get used for that. It's only a 15gm jar though so you'd need a fair bit to do the areas you're thinking of, as my doc applied it thick.
The sheets are just those that you can get from the chemist that have backing on both sides. I can't remember what it's called, but you take the paper off one side, apply it to your skin, then take the top paper off. And it looks like a clear skin over your skin. Hope you know what I mean.
Surprisingly it didn't burn one bit. Just very annoying not being able to wet my hands for 48 hours.
As far as the stuff from this site goes I'm not too sure about the olive oil being the mix with it as the stuff my doc used was thick, and not oily. But for the price it could be worth a look and if it goes well just do abit at a time.
Here's the website if you want to have a look at it.www.healthhouse.co.nz/Salicylic%20Acid%20paste.html
Somehow I just knew you'd be interested in doing this yourself. And I would definately love to know how it goes if you do. |
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:54 am |
Mishey wrote: |
Hey Rebecca. Yep I was in Thialand in November, got back on the 20th.
Well there's one place I've spoken to that sells this and I emailed them. They say it's 70% strength mixed with olive oil.(Again for warts and keratosis) So I guess that could be diluted alittle hey. They've never heard of it being used for a peel so they couldn't help there, but are interested in knowing what happens if it does get used for that. It's only a 15gm jar though so you'd need a fair bit to do the areas you're thinking of, as my doc applied it thick.
The sheets are just those that you can get from the chemist that have backing on both sides. I can't remember what it's called, but you take the paper off one side, apply it to your skin, then take the top paper off. And it looks like a clear skin over your skin. Hope you know what I mean.
Surprisingly it didn't burn one bit. Just very annoying not being able to wet my hands for 48 hours.
As far as the stuff from this site goes I'm not too sure about the olive oil being the mix with it as the stuff my doc used was thick, and not oily. But for the price it could be worth a look and if it goes well just do abit at a time.
Here's the website if you want to have a look at it.www.healthhouse.co.nz/Salicylic%20Acid%20paste.html
Somehow I just knew you'd be interested in doing this yourself. And I would definately love to know how it goes if you do. |
Mishey! I love you!!
You are so great to look into this for me! I have also emailed a company that sells it to see if they will sell to me direct.
I know the sticky dressing you are talking about.
I am so going to give this a go...I have a week at the beach coming up..then I will do it.
Thanks so much again girl.
cheers
rebecca |
_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:18 am |
No probs at all.
Enjoy your beach week you lucky thing, and let us know how you go with the peels.
And also which paste you end up getting. |
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:54 am |
Is solar keratosis the same as seborrheic keratosis?
There is a thread on the latter that I have literally just been having a look through because I've got these weird sort of mole things all over my torso from when I got burnt to a crisp 10+ yrs ago.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=30365
The recommendation is a 30-35% glycolic acid solution, or hydrogen peroxide.
Love to know if the salicylic acid does the same thing.
Mishey, you don't remember what the plastic things are called do you? Or what they are normally used for so that I can ask the chemist?
Thanks so much. |
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:23 am |
neondaze wrote: |
Is solar keratosis the same as seborrheic keratosis?
There is a thread on the latter that I have literally just been having a look through because I've got these weird sort of mole things all over my torso from when I got burnt to a crisp 10+ yrs ago.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=30365
The recommendation is a 30-35% glycolic acid solution, or hydrogen peroxide.
Love to know if the salicylic acid does the same thing.
Are the mole thingys skin coloured or pigmented?
The plastic dressing is a surgical dressing called "something" derm I think...I will google to see if I can find it. Good chance it will be called something else here in Australia (where Mishey and I am).
cheers
rebecca
Mishey, you don't remember what the plastic things are called do you? Or what they are normally used for so that I can ask the chemist?
Thanks so much. |
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_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:34 am |
I just went and had a good look at them. The bigger ones are quite dark brown, and then there are heaps of tiny ones that are slightly darker than my skin colour.
I can't believe I can potentially get rid of these! I've always just assumed that I'm stuck with them.
I'm in Oz too. Sick of getting things posted from the US. The thought of just going down to the local chemist to buy something is very exciting! |
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:33 pm |
http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/1534332
This is an article talking about the salicylic acid treatment on the hands...it calls the acid an ointment. I'm following your thread as I have lots of pigment I would like to see gone.
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:35 pm |
Neondaze solar and seborrheic keratosis are different in that solar ones can become cancerous but sebborheic are just darn ugly but don't lead to anything serious.
I used H2O2 on a few I had and it did work. I kept applying nightly till it turned into a scab, then let it heal. On a couple I had to repeat the process. I got my H2O2 from here
www.ntphealthproducts.com It's under the miscellaneous products, and they're in Oz.
Interesting in the article on medscape they talk about pretreatment with TCA. I use retin a on my hands and arms every 2nd night anyway, but my doc didn't mention prepping with TCA. Worked well without it anyway.
Rebecca which salicylic acid did you buy? |
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Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:46 pm |
Hi Snowqueen, I'm in Melb too!
Thanks for the link to the plastic things.
Mishey, how do you know if they are possibly cancerous? Is it if they change size and shape dramatically?
Thanks for the H2O2 link, I was wondering where to buy it. Did you use it full strength? And would it be better to use the H2O2 or the salicylic?
Sorry if I'm bombarding you with questions. |
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Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:51 am |
In one of the medical articles I read, they used saran wrap instead of the clear bandages. I wonder if this would work better (and cheaper)for some of the larger areas.
One concern of mine would be an overdose of the aspirin if too large an area is done. Any thoughts on this.
Thanks!
Mary |
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Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:22 pm |
MaryClaire wrote: |
In one of the medical articles I read, they used saran wrap instead of the clear bandages. I wonder if this would work better (and cheaper)for some of the larger areas.
One concern of mine would be an overdose of the aspirin if too large an area is done. Any thoughts on this.
Thanks!
Mary |
From my brief research this is a slight concern (esp as I have large areas to treat) so I guess we would need to break up treatments into smaller areas.
I think I will attempt one forearm as my first area.
Thanks for the saran wrap tip (though it might be harder to keep on for 48hrs).....
rebecca |
_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:40 pm |
Ok. I am having trouble finding out in the articles posted online what actually makes the salicylic acid paste a paste. The product Mishey found it is olive oil...but I'm not sure about in the products the doctors were using.
I am thinking about making it myself as I can get the powder easily. I have contacted a compounding chemist here to see if they can help.
If anyone has come across the details of the paste can you let me know?
rebecca |
_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:33 am |
Mishey...if you see this can you confirm that your skin shed evenly with this peel? I just hoping it wont just peel raised spots???
rebecca |
_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:11 pm |
I don't think thats dumb at all...I was looking at those type of products too..but the ones I saw were too small. It could work and to be honest I like the idea of 40%!
At this stage I am still hoping to find a chemist to make this up for me.
rebecca |
_________________ 47 years old. Battling aging and pigmentation. Using Tria and Pico and Dermapen. |
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:34 pm |
Rebecca the peel was even, but I don't have any raised spots on my hands so can't answer that. Are you referring to moles?
Those pads look interesting I must say. Good find MaryClaire.
Rebecca with the compounding pharmacy did you tell them what you want to use it for and leave it to them what they put with the acid? |
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:41 pm |
neondaze wrote: |
Hi Snowqueen, I'm in Melb too!
Thanks for the link to the plastic things.
Mishey, how do you know if they are possibly cancerous? Is it if they change size and shape dramatically?
Thanks for the H2O2 link, I was wondering where to buy it. Did you use it full strength? And would it be better to use the H2O2 or the salicylic?
Sorry if I'm bombarding you with questions. |
Neondaze it would be better if you know exactly what you're treating by going to a cancer clinic for them to look at. They're medicare rebatable anyway. I've had a squamous cell carcinoma removed before so I go yearly. It left a horrible scar on my shoulder.
I used the H202 straight out of the bottle full strength on my SK. I've never tried salicylic acid on SK so can't answer that one sorry. |
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Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:47 pm |
I have been watching this thread, as I have pigmentation issues with my arms/hands, as well. The saliclyic peel sounds great, but I cannot use anything with salicylic in it! I am going to keep watching this thread in case anything else comes up! |
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