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Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:32 pm  |
I'm starting out the anti aging process now that I am 30 and I have been reading around the board that it seems that the standard to start out with is Vitamin A and Vitamin C. I have read the collagen producing properties of Vitamin C, but I'm still not sure what Vitamin C is good for in the skin? Does it also help with wrinkles and collagen? I was using it for a while (actually using an oxidized serum. I didn't know it was oxidized until I came to this board. I thought it was supposed to be brown!) Anyhoo, I wasnt sure what I was using it for other than an added skin protection from the sun.
Like I said, it seems that the consensus I see on this board is that Vitamin A and C are good. What else should I incorporate (besides a good SPF)?
Thanks again to all the very smart ladies on the board. |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:57 am |
| First of all you need to know about the types of vitamin C that are used in skin care preparations. Not all Vitamin C is created equal. I read SuperNatural Solutions to Adult Acne and Aging recently and she explained it really well. You should only use products with one of two kinds of vitamin C: Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate or Ascorbyl Palmitate. Other forms of vitamin C are unstable and are free radical generators that will cause more harm than good. The best products will incorporate nano-technology to get the C into the aged, damaged cells to repair and pump up collagen production. One company, Arbonne has a whole line of vit C products that claim they can boost collagen production over 300% in 6 months. That's huge. Haven't found anything better. supernaturalskincom for book |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:23 pm |
sooo
Vit C also helps with collagen production? Got it! Anything else I should start incorporating into the routine? |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:59 pm |
I think most of people use vitamin c to make skin whiter.
Besides, I can not tell any other effect that vitamin c could do. |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:28 pm |
| I think Vit C helps bightness, fine lines and collagen production. |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:50 am |
| I'm quoting the book "Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (MAP) is converted by the skin to a biologically active form of vitamin C that stimulates living cells in the dermis, and regulates melanin production. MAP improves skin clarity by balancing pigmentation, performs free-radical-fighting antioxidant action, AND increases collagen and elastin production and ground substance (improving the strength and elasticity of the skin.)" Ascorbic acid on the other hand can not penetrate the skin, but can certainly irritate it--it is acid--and is potentially harmful due to fast oxidation and release of free radicals ." when the MAP is delivered using nanotechnology, the results are astounding. This isn't some DIY kitchen serum. |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:52 am |
| Peggotty wrote: |
Anyhoo, I wasnt sure what I was using it for other than an added skin protection from the sun.
Like I said, it seems that the consensus I see on this board is that Vitamin A and C are good. What else should I incorporate (besides a good SPF)?
Thanks again to all the very smart ladies on the board. |
Here are a few articles on topical C from smartskincare that you can read.
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitamin-c-vitamin-e-ferulic-acid.html
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/anhydrous_vitc_combo.html
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitcderiv.html
And a little more info:
"Vitamin C, also known by its chemical name (ascorbic acid), plays an important role in healing wounds in the skin and in preventing scurvy. There is strong evidence that applying topical vitamin C will help "rejuvenate" the skin and make it appear younger by activating the oxidizing influences to which the skin is subjected.
Vitamin C (found in citrus fruits and vegetables) is the simplest form of antioxidant. Antioxidants may help prevent skin damage from free radicals, a dangerously mutant form of oxygen that in large doses (from pollution, sunlight, etc..) can break through the membrane that protects the skin's cells and cause inflammation, visible lines and wrinkles, among other damage. Vitamin C helps accelerate skin healing.
Topical vitamin C must be in the form of L-ascorbic acid to be useful to the body and skin. Recent studies indicate that vitamin C derivatives do not perform the same way as topical L-ascorbic acid. These studies show that derivatives are either not absorbed or not converted to L-ascorbic acid in high enough concentrations to have an effect. L-ascorbic acid is unstable and tends to break down rapidly, reasons why it is so difficult to produce for cosmetic preparations. Wanting to offer vitamin C products, many companies have used derivatives of vitamin C, such as ascorbyl palmitate and magnesium ascorbyl phosphate. Derivatives are easier to stabilize, but they are not L-ascorbic acid, which is the only form of vitamin C the body can use." |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:14 am |
The book Jentle references indicates magnesium ascorbyl phosphate as being the 'wonder form' of Vit. C...yet Rileygirls post notes the opposite (notes it is L-ascorbic acid that is useful to the body).
It is difficult to wade through the available and sometimes conflicting literature on this subject! |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:07 am |
| myamax wrote: |
The book Jentle references indicates magnesium ascorbyl phosphate as being the 'wonder form' of Vit. C...yet Rileygirls post notes the opposite (notes it is L-ascorbic acid that is useful to the body).
It is difficult to wade through the available and sometimes conflicting literature on this subject! |
I personally would stick to more scientific sites to get your information from. Skin enzymes have to convert Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate into Ascorbic Acid. There is a ton of information here on the forum on topical C, it will just take your time as you have to search for the info! |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:07 am |
Thanks Miss Riley,
Great links and information! Guess I will stick with my ascorbic acid per application for now!
DM
PS You should post this on the 2 DIY Vitamin C threads, might be of great interest to a lot of people trying to decide what to use in their recipes. |
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Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:04 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| Peggotty wrote: |
Anyhoo, I wasnt sure what I was using it for other than an added skin protection from the sun.
Like I said, it seems that the consensus I see on this board is that Vitamin A and C are good. What else should I incorporate (besides a good SPF)?
Thanks again to all the very smart ladies on the board. |
Here are a few articles on topical C from smartskincare that you can read.
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitamin-c-vitamin-e-ferulic-acid.html
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/anhydrous_vitc_combo.html
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitcderiv.html
And a little more info:
"Vitamin C, also known by its chemical name (ascorbic acid), plays an important role in healing wounds in the skin and in preventing scurvy. There is strong evidence that applying topical vitamin C will help "rejuvenate" the skin and make it appear younger by activating the oxidizing influences to which the skin is subjected.
Vitamin C (found in citrus fruits and vegetables) is the simplest form of antioxidant. Antioxidants may help prevent skin damage from free radicals, a dangerously mutant form of oxygen that in large doses (from pollution, sunlight, etc..) can break through the membrane that protects the skin's cells and cause inflammation, visible lines and wrinkles, among other damage. Vitamin C helps accelerate skin healing.
Topical vitamin C must be in the form of L-ascorbic acid to be useful to the body and skin. Recent studies indicate that vitamin C derivatives do not perform the same way as topical L-ascorbic acid. These studies show that derivatives are either not absorbed or not converted to L-ascorbic acid in high enough concentrations to have an effect. L-ascorbic acid is unstable and tends to break down rapidly, reasons why it is so difficult to produce for cosmetic preparations. Wanting to offer vitamin C products, many companies have used derivatives of vitamin C, such as ascorbyl palmitate and magnesium ascorbyl phosphate. Derivatives are easier to stabilize, but they are not L-ascorbic acid, which is the only form of vitamin C the body can use." |
Thank you for sharing. Very informative. I am currently using skincelluarRX VC firm serum and I like it very much. |
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