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free skin care · Thu May 24, 2007 7:21 am

Laura168 wrote:

Hi Red devil,
No I did not buy the cream with the pump. I read on the lusious lips forum that some people just use vaseline. And drink a lot of water. (We know water is good for plump lips anyway)

I have two questions: After you pull the pump out while your lips are air tight and hold for seconds...do you leave your lips in the pump air tight while bringing the pump back?

And other question...after I am finished with one pull then do I wait throughout the day for the next? Or do I pull two seconds five times one after another?

Yes, I tend to leave my lips in the pump when I bring it back, because then it's easier to do the next pull if my lips are already in there. Occasionally I don't get the best suction (since I've lost weight, my face has slimmed down also) so once I've got it, I try to keep it by leaving my lips in there.

I'm pretty sure you should do all five pulls at once. And, doing all five pulls at the same time each day is probably a good idea -- like if you do them in the morning, then you should always do them in the morning, that way maybe your lips will get conditioned better. Smile

free skin care · Thu May 24, 2007 11:46 am

Hmmm...I was just re-reading some of this thread, and I wonder whether I'm Kiki, MermaidGirl, Chocolat, and scallawaggirl are still using their pumps, and what progress they're making? Razz

My lips still seem to be growing more and more, so I'm still pretty happy with the pump!

free skin care · Thu May 24, 2007 2:17 pm

Hey Red Devil! Glad to see you are still at it. I stopped using mine in March when I had the weirdest rash/itching/congestion/breakout happening all around my chin area, and I didn't want to further irritate or compress things by using the lip pump. Before that though, from Oct-March, I'd used it regularly 2-3 times a day and was really liking the effect. The plump did last longer as time went on, but the longest I got was maybe an hour or so, and there didn't seem to be more actual lip volume (collagen) per se, just the suction effect lasting longer. This is going to sound weird, but, when I put a drop of tamarind seed extract (www.theherbarie.com) mixed with a pinch of fish collagen powder (www.federalabs.com) on post-pump, then a coat of vegetable glycerine then dried it briefly with my hairdrier, it lasted the longest. Stinky initially, but effective.

So I have to start again, with the conditioning 2-second pulls. My chin's finally calmed down (yeah for neem oil!) and this was a good reminder that I can use it again.

BTW I think Scallawagirl's left EDS, she posted that last week, due to some EDS kerfuffle I'm not aware of -- but I'll miss her. She and I were on the same page about a lot of things and she often was one step ahead of something I was planning to do!

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2007 2:23 pm

Well, I got a little bit of bruising today. I look kind of like I have five o clock shawdow around my lips. Yuck. Thank God for make up or it would look ten times worse.

I used the pump by the directions. Maybe I pulled too far today. Should I stop for a day? Any suggestions?

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2007 3:59 pm

Hi Laura, I've gotten small purplish bruises on either lip, on occasion, and also tiny red dots (petechiae, from too much suction) around the edges at times, if I'm too enthusiastic. I wouldn't pull so hard for now...you'll get to realize by feel when "hard" means "too hard." It takes a little trial & error.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2007 5:14 pm

Thank you Chocolat, I used it upside down because it seems right side up I didn't get suction.
I will try right side up again and press it against my face tighter. It leaves the impression on my cheeks. Ha ha. It takes a bit to go away.

free skin care · Wed May 30, 2007 9:17 am

Hi Laura! I hope your bruises have gone away by now. Bruises = no fun!

I've been using LipTox every night for the past three weeks, and I think it might be doing something -- giving the pump a little extra kick -- because my lips are plumper than ever! I was getting my hair cut yesterday, and I was amazed at my reflection, and my plump lips staring back at me. My lips have been chapped since Friday, so I haven't been using my pump as much, but it LOOKS like I've been using it constantly. Yay! Very Happy

free skin care · Wed May 30, 2007 11:13 am

Hi Laura,
I do mine 3 pumps right-side-up, which mainly pulls the upper lip, and 3 pumps right-side down which mainly pulls the lower lip...I have a narrow face and find that's the only way to target both lips. I find it helps too, to moisten my lips and the lip area of the pump with some water, that gives a better suction. Sometimes bending over from the waist helps, too. The things we girls do!!

Red Devil, never heard of LipTox before, I'm off to Google it!

free skin care · Wed May 30, 2007 11:26 am

Amazing I have a second to get on the computer. I am too darn busy!!! I am glad to hear about your plump lips Red devil. Yipeeee!!

I have not heard of lip tox either??? I must know of this! Ha

Bruises are gone. I am still using the pump, just not as hard. And I am using it right side up again. I don't notice any difference yet. I know I will though.

free skin care · Wed May 30, 2007 1:42 pm

Laura, it probably took me 2-1/2 months of consistent use (3x a day, 20-30 second pulls, I think) that would last longer than 1/2 an hour. So it does work but you have to keep doing it. I Googled the LipTox and it mainly seems to have some peptides, collagen, sterol and oils. I already have that stuff so I'll skip it. Oh, and MaxiLip--I found a lipgloss in the Prestige line called BeautiFull that has MaxiLip, and I really do like it, I get a slight plump. If you do DIY lip stuff you can get Maxilip from www.thepersonalformulator.com -- it's very pricey.

free skin care · Wed May 30, 2007 7:06 pm

Hi chocolat, I am in the conditioning phase so I am only using 2 second 5 pulls. I am soooo eager for next week. After that I will be able to have longer pulls. I am excited.

I am still using my usual wexler lip plump gloss but it plumps just slightly for about 30 min. or so. Nothing drastic. I just use it all day long.

free skin care · Wed May 30, 2007 8:13 pm

Chocolat wrote:

Laura, it probably took me 2-1/2 months of consistent use (3x a day, 20-30 second pulls, I think) that would last longer than 1/2 an hour. So it does work but you have to keep doing it. I Googled the LipTox and it mainly seems to have some peptides, collagen, sterol and oils. I already have that stuff so I'll skip it. Oh, and MaxiLip--I found a lipgloss in the Prestige line called BeautiFull that has MaxiLip, and I really do like it, I get a slight plump. If you do DIY lip stuff you can get Maxilip from www.thepersonalformulator.com -- it's very pricey.

Peptides, eh?? Maybe that's why it seems to work on me as I continue to use it! I haven't tried peptides before, so apparently my lips respond to them. Very Happy

I just wish my lips would stop peeling -- it's kinda painful, but I'm happy that they're growing!

free skin care · Thu May 31, 2007 7:53 am

Laura - in my previous post, I meant to say that it took me probably 2-1/2 months before I would see plumping results that would last more than 30-40 minutes. (for some reason I couldn't edit my post). Have you also considered adding hyaluronic acid supplementation? That does seem to boost the plump for me, though, I still have to use the pump.
RedDevil, I try to remember to put either Matrixyl-3000 or some kind of CP on my lips at night. For your peelies, a coating of vegetable glycerin (sticky but effective) for hydration might help.

free skin care · Thu May 31, 2007 1:33 pm

Chocolat wrote:

Laura - in my previous post, I meant to say that it took me probably 2-1/2 months before I would see plumping results that would last more than 30-40 minutes. (for some reason I couldn't edit my post). Have you also considered adding hyaluronic acid supplementation? That does seem to boost the plump for me, though, I still have to use the pump.
RedDevil, I try to remember to put either Matrixyl-3000 or some kind of CP on my lips at night. For your peelies, a coating of vegetable glycerin (sticky but effective) for hydration might help.

I shall have to try that -- thanks, Chocolat! Where might I get my hands on some vegetable glycerin?

The peeling has stopped as of today, and now I'm left with plump, smooth, red lips. I know that they will peel again, though, when they start another "growth spurt".

free skin care · Thu May 31, 2007 2:35 pm

Whole Foods or a store like a Vitamin Shoppe should have some in their skincare section. If you were willing to wait a few days (you're in TX right?) or couldn't find any, I could send you some from my bottle, I have 16oz which I've barely even dented. If you'd like me to do that PM me your address.

free skin care · Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:32 pm

Chocolat wrote:

Whole Foods or a store like a Vitamin Shoppe should have some in their skincare section. If you were willing to wait a few days (you're in TX right?) or couldn't find any, I could send you some from my bottle, I have 16oz which I've barely even dented. If you'd like me to do that PM me your address.

I appreciate it! I'm in California right now, and will be back in Georgia next Monday, and I have no idea what the address is here, heehee. I don't think I need it anymore, as my lips have stopped peeling and are oh-so-plump. But thank you anyway!

I am still loving the LipTox! I think I might get some straight-up copper peptides and try them out.

free skin care · Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:13 am

Hey guys, I still haven't noticed much of a plump yet. (I know that is normal at the stage I am at) BUT I do notice that my lips are soooo much more pink. Almost red. Like they were when I was younger. It is nice.

free skin care · Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:17 am

Mine get more red too, which definitely helps with the appearance of plumpness. Cool

The whole bee-stung thing.

Mine stay fairly plump all day now, even without using the pump several times.

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:23 pm

I haven't been able to read most of the middle 20 or so posts in this thread....but have most of the others (little ppl seem to always need something Rolling Eyes

when I'm on the computer). I went right out and bought some HA at the Drug Mart 20mg 60 pills for $4.99 (yippie!) and promptly misplaced them after only two days. Yesterday I bought some more and noticed that they well gel caps so decided to cut one open. Is HA naturally a gel-ish substance? Anyway, I had been expecting a liquid but since it was a gel with some tiny grit-ish pieces to it I thought I would try exfoliating my lips with it and then using a "stinger" type lip plumper that I had not had any success with that I had picked up at day spa some months back.

What a surprise! As I massaged the HA out of the capsule onto my lips the "grit" dissolved and when it was all dissolved a patted the rest into my lips and one of my children needed my attention for a minute so I left the mirror...when I returned my lips were SIGNIFICATLY larger!!! I couldn't believe it!
I tried the limp plumper after that, which tingled more than I remembered it doing the last time I tried it so maybe the "grit" did exfoliate my lips somewhat before it dissolved...but it did seem to work for the first time and also made my lips a lovely blushed color. Very Happy

Of course this morning my lips were back to normal....but...they were quite large (for me anyway) for several hours at least so I cannot wait to try this again.

Has anyone else tried or experienced anything like this? I plan to get back on taking these orally as well to see what that does. I have Fibromyalgia as well as a couple of bad disks in my back so I figure it can't hurt right? Very Happy

free skin care · Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:19 pm

thestepfordwife wrote:

I haven't been able to read most of the middle 20 or so posts in this thread....but have most of the others (little ppl seem to always need something Rolling Eyes

when I'm on the computer). I went right out and bought some HA at the Drug Mart 20mg 60 pills for $4.99 (yippie!) and promptly misplaced them after only two days. Yesterday I bought some more and noticed that they well gel caps so decided to cut one open. Is HA naturally a gel-ish substance? Anyway, I had been expecting a liquid but since it was a gel with some tiny grit-ish pieces to it I thought I would try exfoliating my lips with it and then using a "stinger" type lip plumper that I had not had any success with that I had picked up at day spa some months back.

What a surprise! As I massaged the HA out of the capsule onto my lips the "grit" dissolved and when it was all dissolved a patted the rest into my lips and one of my children needed my attention for a minute so I left the mirror...when I returned my lips were SIGNIFICATLY larger!!! I couldn't believe it!
I tried the limp plumper after that, which tingled more than I remembered it doing the last time I tried it so maybe the "grit" did exfoliate my lips somewhat before it dissolved...but it did seem to work for the first time and also made my lips a lovely blushed color. Very Happy

Of course this morning my lips were back to normal....but...they were quite large (for me anyway) for several hours at least so I cannot wait to try this again.

Has anyone else tried or experienced anything like this? I plan to get back on taking these orally as well to see what that does. I have Fibromyalgia as well as a couple of bad disks in my back so I figure it can't hurt right? Very Happy

Oh wow!! I will have to try this. In my Rexall HA, the substance is not gel-like, but it's a fine, silty, powdery type of substance. What brand of HA did you use?

Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:54 pm

Hi Red Devil!

It was just the generic store brand for the Drug Mart. I have done this several times since with good (albeit temporary results) not something I have the time for every day...but will be part of my routine before any social gathering from here on out!

I'm fair (mom is mostly german with a touch of irish and a dash of native american)...but have strong features (daddy was mostly native american with a dash of english, a dab of scott, and a pinch of african american)...so with my high prominent cheekbones and square-ish face my thin-ish (if well shaped) lips can use any improvement they can get!!! The more I learn the more it seems genetics play such a large part in ageing process...so I am keeping my fingers crossed that my hair will just go from my natural dishwater blond to white like my mom and that I continue to hold off the large wrinkles like she has. So interesting to see my children grow into themselves too...my husband is 100 percent italian and my son has my fair complexion and face shape, and his fathers full lips and five inch long eyelashes (don't the boys always get them?! Mad

) and my daughter has my hubby's olive skin and face shape with my thin lips and eyes! Laughing

I think I will try and pick up some HA from one of these sites I keep reading about in this forum where you can order supplies for making your own cosmetics and see what that does. It's worth a try Very Happy

Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:35 pm

Carekate, Im new here and unsure how else to get the answer, i read you were making a lash enhancer and im wondering if its for sale yet?

free skin care · Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:15 am

Caitlinn...I'm unsure why you posted a question to CareKate about her eyelash product on this thread, this is a Lip Plumper thread and I don't recall reading her post on it. You might want to PM her instead.

free skin care · Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:24 am

OK ladies you're gonna think I'm nuts, but here's what I'm trying now! I bought a Dermaroller for my skin but I'm also using it on my lips, then putting CP's on afterwards. (my reasoning was, if some lip-augmentation injections work by causing collagen to form in reaction, wouldn't needling do something similar, even thought I'm not 'injecting' a substance?)

I went to my derm this week (for another cyst, damned thing!) and brought up the lip injectables issue again. He has a new skincare spa attached to his practice that is mainly Obagi, lasers, specialty treatments, injectables, etc. He told me that he personally wouldn't add anything to my lips. Nice to hear, but I still have that AJ lip envy ... well, not that big, but I'd like a little fuller. His spa offers Restylane (Juvederm is actually the preferred temporary injectable, so I've heard) but I've heard that can tend to produce lumps. I haven't used the lip pump for weeks again because my chin has been so irritated for a few months, and the pump really compresses and pulls at the skin there. Now that it's healing (wishful thinking, but I hope it's healing) I'll be able to start it again, and maybe w/ the Dermaroller something will last longer!

free skin care · Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:44 am

Chocolat,

I don't think you're crazy. When I use my dermaroller (short needles), I go over my lips slightly.

The thing that I did at first by accident and now on purpose that seems to make a difference in my lip color and also a bit in size: putting NCN Pumpkin Peel on for a bit. Now, of course, this is not a "recommended use" but it has not irritated my lips and really makes a noticeable difference.

I think learning to exfoliate my lips, 1st from Kandis of Lips2Kiss, and now continuing it is the best thing I learned recently for my lips!

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