squalene oil
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free skin care · Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:40 pm

I know there are several avid users of squalene/squalane oil. I can't find it anywhere in Toronto. I have tried whole foods and also places in chinatown. Where do you buy it? Does it need to be purchased online? Thanks

free skin care · Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:46 pm

Hi amonavis, you should be able to find squalane oil at a healthfood store that carries natural cosmetics.

SkinBiology also has squalane oil that you can purchase here from EDS. HTH

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:43 am

brierrose wrote:

Hi amonavis, you should be able to find squalane oil at a healthfood store that carries natural cosmetics.

SkinBiology also has squalane oil that you can purchase here from EDS. HTH

Thanks for the information. I will have a look at EDS. Hehe~

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:04 am

Squalene is from shark liver (and I don't think is the main one people are talking about here) and Squalane is from the olive plant.

I've been using SkinBio's Squalane for ages, and its a very light but highly moisturising oil that I've recommended to all my friends.

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:57 am

Do any of you find squalane to be similar in consistency to rosehip seed oil? What skin benefits have you noticed from it?

I have never used it myself but thought about doing so several times....just never got around to purchasing any. I really like the rosehip seed oil, it is very light and doesn't "feel" like you just put oil on your face...I am curious to know if sqaulane is similar...

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:17 am

I've used both Rosehip Oil (from two different sources) and squalane, and whilst Rosehip is good for the vitamin qualities, I find it heavier in comparison with squalane.

I find the squalene is light, without being heavy (if that makes sense), and it seems to really do a great job of moisturising my skin with iritating it.

bren21 wrote:

Do any of you find squalane to be similar in consistency to rosehip seed oil? What skin benefits have you noticed from it?

I have never used it myself but thought about doing so several times....just never got around to purchasing any. I really like the rosehip seed oil, it is very light and doesn't "feel" like you just put oil on your face...I am curious to know if sqaulane is similar...

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:10 am

Be very careful when referring to "squalane" and "squalene", they are two different things. They are both derived either from shark liver or commonly from nature using olives. BUT, squalane is fully hydrogenated, meaning it has no double bonds in the carbon chain. Therefore, it can never go rancid, and it will have a silky feel on the skin but will not penetrate well. Squalene on the other hand, which your skin produces naturally as a component of sebum, has double bonds in it's carbon chain. It is less stable than squalane, but feels just as silky smooth and penetrates very readily with complete compatibility with the skin. I like, and use squalene, in many of my formulas.

Yes, squalene can be obtained from shark liver. But, nobody in the cosmetic industry, especially me, is willing to use any sort of animal product to ethically make cosmetics.

Squalene...can be found and derived from Olive Oil. Unfortunately, less and less squalene is being produced (as a by-product) from the Olive Oil manufacturers. So, it is getting harder and harder to find. That is probably why you are having difficulty locating it.

The B & T cosmetic chemical manufacturer located in Italy is the source I use to obtain my squalene. I don't know if they will sell directly to consumers.
If anyone wants the technical information on olive oil derived squalene from the B & T company, don't hesitate to ask. I'll send it right over.

Hope this helps,

John

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:52 am

I purchased mine online from ncnproskincare.com and lotioncrafters.com. I don't know though if they ship to canada.

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:56 pm

thanks for all the info everyone

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:06 pm

SeanySeanUK wrote:

I've used both Rosehip Oil (from two different sources) and squalane, and whilst Rosehip is good for the vitamin qualities, I find it heavier in comparison with squalane.

I find the squalene is light, without being heavy (if that makes sense), and it seems to really do a great job of moisturising my skin with iritating it.

bren21 wrote:

Do any of you find squalane to be similar in consistency to rosehip seed oil? What skin benefits have you noticed from it?

I have never used it myself but thought about doing so several times....just never got around to purchasing any. I really like the rosehip seed oil, it is very light and doesn't "feel" like you just put oil on your face...I am curious to know if sqaulane is similar...

Sean, are you using Squalane or squalene?

I'm using Squalane right now, and its working well. If squalene is better though (thanks Notch for the information Smile

) I will try it. Where do you get yours from?

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:47 pm

SeanySeanUK wrote:

Squalene is from shark liver (and I don't think is the main one people are talking about here) and Squalane is from the olive plant.

I've been using SkinBio's Squalane for ages, and its a very light but highly moisturising oil that I've recommended to all my friends.

I too use Skin Biology's Squalane from olives as my 2nd choice BHO. SB's Emu Oil is my first.

Even though Notch explains the difference between "ene" & "ane" (both could come from either sharks or olives)right?, I believe SB's "Squalane from Olives" is the one that naturally occurs in the skin as it absorbs beautifully.

I will check on that with Dr. Pickart, but that explains why other brand Squalanes that I have tried in the past just sat on my skin. They must have been the "inferior anes".

Even though it is still a little confusing, Thanks for clarifying Notch.

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:28 pm

Interesting. I thought it was just a matter of spelling! I like Skin Biology's squalane. Good price and lasts a long time since you only use a few drops.

free skin care · Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:35 pm

Based on NOTCH's rec it sounds as though squalene is the only one that has actual penetration - I haven't used either but that's the one I'd go for. Thanks John.

free skin care · Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:44 am

bren21 wrote:

Do any of you find squalane to be similar in consistency to rosehip seed oil? What skin benefits have you noticed from it?

I have never used it myself but thought about doing so several times....just never got around to purchasing any. I really like the rosehip seed oil, it is very light and doesn't "feel" like you just put oil on your face...I am curious to know if sqaulane is similar...

One of the things I've learned on this forum is that Rosehip Seed Oil is one of the "dryest" oils (hence you say "lightest,").... I believe squalane is much more moisturizing.

free skin care · Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:15 am

LondonJamie - I'm using Skin Biology's Squalane which I'm sure I read came from olives (like Starmodel says).

I tried Emu Oil and found it heavier and thicker in comparison, and I dislike the idea of murdering the emu birds for it too, but figured if it came from a plant (and I'd be appreciative to the plant and offer thanks for it in my prayers) then it would be better.

Though I'm finding NOTCH's products look really tempting to me, I'm going to give them a try when I get through my current batch.

free skin care · Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:01 am

I've had a difficult time finding squalene oil.

I was on the NOTCH website last week to order some lotions I've been wanting to try. John C, has it occurred to you yet to bottle up some squalene in one oz. vials with droppers for consumer use? I'd love to dot a tiny amount around eyes and neck, just as I currently do with meadowfoam seed oil.

Just a thought,

Athena

free skin care · Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:12 am

Notch,

It will be a great news for us if you'd distribute B&T squalene in the States.

free skin care · Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:15 am

SeanySeanUK wrote:

LondonJamie - I'm using Skin Biology's Squalane which I'm sure I read came from olives (like Starmodel says).

I tried Emu Oil and found it heavier and thicker in comparison, and I dislike the idea of murdering the emu birds for it too, but figured if it came from a plant (and I'd be appreciative to the plant and offer thanks for it in my prayers) then it would be better.

Though I'm finding NOTCH's products look really tempting to me, I'm going to give them a try when I get through my current batch.

NOTCH, do you have your own line of products? I'm confused. Embarassed

Which products are you going to try out Sean?

free skin care · Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:43 am

I hear what you are saying SeanySean about the poor Emu's! While my fur is faux and I eat mostly plants, I must admit that I have more than my fair share of leather shoes, coats, jackets, gloves, etc. and I actually love cows!

I just don't eat them.

I have read a little further & found that BOTH Squalane & Squalene are naturally occurring in the body. Squalene is unstable and quickly oxidizes which causes it to go rancid. That is why squalane (usually from olives, but also found in sharks) is widely used in cosmetics & skincare products. Squalane is very stable as Notch states.

From what I have read, Squalane does indeed absorb completely into the skin, just as well as the more unstable form Squalene. I used Purity Products Squalane from Sharks years ago & I swear it just sat on my skin (perhaps I didn't give it a chance?). But I prefer the "Olive Version" which is more commonly used in skincare for a variety of reasons. I guess this means, I have half a heart! Laughing

So whether the SQUALENE is derived from sharks or olives it would still have the instability factor which causes it to go rancid quickly.

SQUALANE seems to be the better choice. And like Emu Oil, it is considered a "lipid replenisher" which makes them superior natural moisturizers as well as offering other therapeutic qualities.

The 3 (Squalene/Squalane/Emu) are 100% compatible with our body's natural oils.

free skin care · Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:21 am

I really like the look of his Anti-Wrinkle Cream with Jojoba Esters and Peptides moisturiser but also the “Moisture Miracle” Body Lotion. Both contain a lot of the ingredients spoken about for their moisturising ability in threads here so they look great to me. I'm just trying to finish off my products (as I hate trying new things before I've got rid of my old ones otherwise the bathroom can end up looking like a chemist - its been known at times!!) and then will order up.

Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:11 am

LondonJamie wrote:

SeanySeanUK wrote:

LondonJamie - I'm using Skin Biology's Squalane which I'm sure I read came from olives (like Starmodel says).

I tried Emu Oil and found it heavier and thicker in comparison, and I dislike the idea of murdering the emu birds for it too, but figured if it came from a plant (and I'd be appreciative to the plant and offer thanks for it in my prayers) then it would be better.

Though I'm finding NOTCH's products look really tempting to me, I'm going to give them a try when I get through my current batch.

NOTCH, do you have your own line of products? I'm confused. Embarassed

Which products are you going to try out Sean?

NOTCH does have his own line of products—here is the website: http://www.neveroverthehill.com/

Here also is one of the review threads: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=34842&highlight=notch

free skin care · Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:12 pm

SeanySeanUK wrote:

LondonJamie - I'm using Skin Biology's Squalane which I'm sure I read came from olives (like Starmodel says).

Hi Sean, is this the product you are using?

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/skinbiology-squalane-moiu-p_11641.htm

I'm paying £75 pounds for squalane oil right now...this would be a better option. Then I can get Skinceuticals CE Ferulic serum!

Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:09 am

Hi Notch, your explanation about the difference between squalane and squalene was very informative. Thanks for sharing it with us.

I found this about squalene oil. Please read this about squalene oil. It's a relief that topical squalene oil is safe.

http://www.ihealthdirectory.com/squalene-oil/

If yuo're worried about Squalene being derived from shark's liver, hope this puts your mind at ease to read that Unilever and L'Oreal Paris are eliminating shark liver oil from their products. These posts were way back in 2008 and 2009 I think.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3323530/Cosmetics-giants-agree-to-stop-using-shark-oil.html

http://www.cosmeticsandtoiletries.com/networking/news/company/15040046.html

As for the independant cosmetic companies, I think you should email your cosmetic company to find our whether their squalene is based on shark liver oil or otherwise.

free skin care · Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:01 pm

Garden Of wisdom also sells Squalane from Olive Oil. Has anyone tried their version?

Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:03 am

You can get squalane oil from ncn too. I got the sample, but I haven't used it yet.

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