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Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:32 pm |
I got some prescribed whitening gel from my dentist last year, it supposed to use with my tray but my teeth are too sensitive, I only used half of the gel and stored the rest in the fridge.
I don't want to waste them, but does it work to squeeze a bit on my toothpaste and brush like 5 mins? Anyone here has tried? |
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:49 pm |
Hi Critic -
what you describe is a carbamide peroxide solution for bleaching purposes only and not designed as a whitening toothpaste.
For use with a toothbrush to increase the possiblity of a whitening difference I suggest you use it this way: Brush on fronts of your teeth - avoid gums and let sit on teeth as long as possible - If possible take a shower or read a book and try to keep lips neutral over teeth - keeping teeth as dry as you can. (That is as little moisture as possible). Keep on 10 minutes or as long as you can - avoid gums to decrease sensitivity possibility. (It can still happen but with less exposure you may get some whitening and less sensitivity.)
I do NOT suggest brushing the whitening into the teeth, rather applying it gently with a brush on the outermost area just to cover and letting it sit on as long as you can. Do NOT swallow.
***Also if you want to try in the tray for another time- use far less than you did. This might help. Also leave in for a shorter amount of time. |
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:00 pm |
thank you.
I did not know whitening is not = bleaching.
the dentist also asked me to use the tray, no matter 5 mins or so. I usually can use 2 days for 30 mins, but can't stand it as from the 3rd day, the pain is like drilling into my body. |
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:11 pm |
Critic - Try using it just 5 - 10 minutes a day. Use a small amount - just barely cover your teeth. Alternate days. You may be able to build up to more. Take it easy and you will get results. I wish I was there to coach you along.
Also, I suggest getting a desensitizing toothpaste. Use this in the evening or the morning (after you whiten). It will help with the sensitivity caused by bleaching.
Bleaching will whiten your your teeth but it is a very different way (bleaching product Vs whitening product). |
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:22 pm |
I will try to do it today, the gel is sitting in the fridge for too long, not sure if still OK to use.
I have used sensitive toothpaste for a year+, also keep telling myself for a year - I am ready to use the gel again. |
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm |
re-read your message, so I can't use desensitizing toothpaste during my bleaching? |
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:35 am |
what about trying some baking soda in with your toothpaste? it's been used as a tooth whitener pre-peroxide days and some toothpastes already have it in there. |
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:22 am |
Sister,
My DH and I have been using 'ear drops' recommended by carekate...it has carbamide peroxide 6.5%...what are your thoughts on using this to whiten teeth?
~Mary |
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:36 am |
Hi Mary Claire - Auro ear drops work as does Gly-oxide (this is a dental preparation easily found). Both have carbimide peroxide. You can use either one. It can be used in a bleaching tray (you get the stuff at the drugstore to do your own). Also you can brush it on the fronts of teeth and allow to sit for a period of time. This will do some mild surface bleaching (this is what I was suggesting to critic).
critic - You can use your bleaching tray with only the bleaching product in it (or try one of the ones mentioned above). Later (before bed) brush with a desensitizing toothpaste. You can certainly use both in the same day - just not at the same time! And I would not recommend you mix them together. |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:03 pm |
miss mei wrote: |
what about trying some baking soda in with your toothpaste? it's been used as a tooth whitener pre-peroxide days and some toothpastes already have it in there. |
good idea, i think it works, worth a try |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:49 am |
sister sweets wrote: |
Hi Mary Claire - Auro ear drops work as does Gly-oxide (this is a dental preparation easily found). Both have carbimide peroxide. You can use either one. It can be used in a bleaching tray (you get the stuff at the drugstore to do your own). Also you can brush it on the fronts of teeth and allow to sit for a period of time. This will do some mild surface bleaching (this is what I was suggesting to critic).
critic - You can use your bleaching tray with only the bleaching product in it (or try one of the ones mentioned above). Later (before bed) brush with a desensitizing toothpaste. You can certainly use both in the same day - just not at the same time! And I would not recommend you mix them together. |
sister sweets I use the gly-oxide everyday but I apply to my toothbrush then toothpaste so I guess probably not all that effective.
I also starting using a "Whitening Pre-rinse" about 2 months ago and I found that that does brighten my teeth.
Like critic I cannot tolerate the whitening trays my teeth are too sensitive. I bought the kit for "sensitive teeth" and had my DH try it first. He didn't have sensitive teeth when this began but after 3 nights he refused to con't the course as his teeth were ultra sensitive! So much for that idea. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:23 am |
critic,
i know you're traveling now... but i'm sure you'll see this when you get back.
i believe your teeth condition is from antibiotics used in asia... in china, hong kong, etc. *correct me if i'm wrong* i have many hong kong friends from my university days and i've noticed this condition....and we discussed it. i believe it was used in korea a long time ago also. the problem with the antibiotic that they used long ago, was that it interfered with the absorption of calcium, thus affecting the teeth. did your dentist discuss this with you?
if i'm wrong about the antibiotic use/effects... then i would recommend...
1) an electric toothbrush, something like the oral b professional series. get the rechargeable electric toothbrush. the battery operated ones are useless and waste more money in the long run. battery operated ones, even with new batteries do not have enough power. honestly, a total waste of money. if you're going to buy something, buy the powerful one.
with the pro electric toothbrush i cannot recommend it enough. i bought my whole family their own units. i've been using it for since 1999 or so... and at first my family thought i was just up to my antics with gadgets. but really now that they're using it... they thank me... it really is s a WOW! you clean your teeth, massage your gums, there are attachments to floss, and attachments to polish/whiten your teeth as well. i think i have 5 different attachments for it.
2) regular teeth cleaning from your dentist... which it sounds like you already do. when the dentist cleans your teeth twice a year, do you notice that your teeth are white?
3) with my electric toothbrush i use two toothpastes together. one is a regular toothpaste, containing silica, or baking soda (eg arm and hammer baking soda toothpaste). the silica or baking soda granuals actually are abrasions and while brushing your teeth, help to clean/polish your teeth. the second toothpaste that i add is a peroxide toothpaste (eg aquafresh). it fizzes up when brushing your teeth. for regular brushings, i find these two combos the most effective.
4) something very popular in korea... and started a long time ago, and since is used here in toronto, and am sure that they do it there in china... is a white coating that the dentist applies to your teeth. this was originally used in korea many years ago for chilren's teeth. to keep them protected from cavities and 'wear&tear'. it is now used in toronto and considered a light dental cosmetic proceedure. it is very a very quick and painless proceedure. (my girlfriends got it done as i don't need it.) the dentist applies a quick white top coat of some paste/liquid, it dries using some blue light, it is instantaneous. it lasts depending on how 'hard' you brush your teeth for 6-8 years, and then the proceedure can be done again with no ill side effects. your teeth are brilliant white, you can drink coffee, tea, whatever... there is no special treatment... and it actually keeps your teeth stronger. this is a proceedure that i would highly recommend. its absolutely effective and with perfect results. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:31 am |
critic,
i, personally would not recommend the teeth whitener... the strips, the topicals, and the tooth trays. for me, and from all of my girlfriends' experience, they are a waste of money, damage your teeth, get sensitivity problems, damage to the gums, etc. *no offense to anyone*
just from being lazy and trying to avoid the dentist i know myself, and friends have wasted ALOT, i mean ALOT of money, that was a total waste... and could have obtained proper treatment from the beginning, which would have been cheaper.
i still have a whole bunch of junk whiteners in the closet. i have not touched them since i've been going to the dentist regularly again.
which reminds me i should give them to someone. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:33 pm |
Used properly, whiteners should not cause tooth damage.
A dental cleaning and use of power toothbrushes will help with some mild surface stain removal but will not "whiten" the teeth as a bleaching solution or procedure will.
Tetracycline staining of the teeth is probably what you are talking about llina. And this is very difficult to whiten. It depends upon the level of staining the tooth has. This type of staining comes from inside the tooth structure (ie: intrinsic) and over-the-counter bleaching techniques do not tend to work in any significant way on intrinsic stain.
In order for best outcomes an in-office whitening procedure(s) with a dentist is the best recommendation. Find a dentist who is a cosmetic specialist and has done this procedure many times. |
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Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:08 am |
Nite White has come out with a new formula (ACP) that is designed to reduce tooth sensitivity. (and fadeback) I used the new formula - 22% carbamide peroxide gel last night, and it does reduce sensitivity much better than the older formula. It's designed to be worn with trays for one hour, or overnight if you can tolerate it.
I tried it for one hour last night and had absolutely no sensitivity at all, so I left it on, overnight. This morning I have little to no sensitivity, and with the older formula my teeth were definitely more sensitive.
You can read about the product and the different formulations at:www.discusdental.com (you have to be a dentist to order the products through their site), and I would recommend checking with your dentist about what solution/wear time would be most effective for your individual needs. I don't have discoloration from antibiotics, but my dentist prescribed the nite white 22% (for overnight use) because my teeth are extremely resistant to bleaching. He wasn't sure the 22% would work, but it has proven to be 100% effective for me.
hth |
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:36 pm |
Hi llina,
I know what you mean, but I am not that type (my elder sister is), I heard from my mom that in the early 70, drs prescribed an anti-botic to kids, these kids have strange coloring when they grow-up. One of my colleagues even has grey/brown/yellowish lines in each tooth. My sisiter is mostly grey.
I tried to PM you? you got them? |
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:42 pm |
When I was in Hong Kong, I found a tooth tippex whitening pen, which is made in Japan, a very small bottle asking for USD50, I wonder if any of you have tried it?
Something similar:
http://www.whiteningpen.org/ |
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:56 pm |
critic wrote: |
Hi llina,
I know what you mean, but I am not that type (my elder sister is), I heard from my mom that in the early 70, drs prescribed an anti-botic to kids, these kids have strange coloring when they grow-up. One of my colleagues even has grey/brown/yellowish lines in each tooth. My sisiter is mostly grey.
I tried to PM you? you got them? |
This is tetracycline staining. It happens while the tooth is developing (before it erupts). The stain becmes a part of the enamel/dentin -underneath the enamel. |
_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:37 am |
sister sweets wrote: |
critic wrote: |
Hi llina,
I know what you mean, but I am not that type (my elder sister is), I heard from my mom that in the early 70, drs prescribed an anti-botic to kids, these kids have strange coloring when they grow-up. One of my colleagues even has grey/brown/yellowish lines in each tooth. My sisiter is mostly grey.
I tried to PM you? you got them? |
This is tetracycline staining. It happens while the tooth is developing (before it erupts). The stain becmes a part of the enamel/dentin -underneath the enamel. |
This is really interesting, I have quite yellow teeth and my mum always said it was because I was prescribed antibiotics as a child.
I sort of never took any notice.
Does this mean that whitening my teeth won't work because the staining is coming from inside my teeth? |
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:05 am |
That is mad! How can you tell were the staining is coming from? I don't have any problems, just curious. My two front teeth were badly affected by chicken pox and it was a nightmare, everyone asks what happened your teeth. I got veneers on by a really good dentist, they match my teeth perfectly. I think I'm lucky I got it done on NHS and by a good dentist, but it can definately sympathise with having bad or deformed teeth. If I was you I would go for a more permenant cosmetic option, easier and once its done you don't need to worry about it. I got mine done when I was 13, I'm now 26 and I rarely think about it.
Good luck. |
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:57 am |
sister sweets wrote: |
Critic - Try using it just 5 - 10 minutes a day. Use a small amount - just barely cover your teeth. Alternate days. You may be able to build up to more. Take it easy and you will get results. I wish I was there to coach you along.
Also, I suggest getting a desensitizing toothpaste. Use this in the evening or the morning (after you whiten). It will help with the sensitivity caused by bleaching.
Bleaching will whiten your your teeth but it is a very different way (bleaching product Vs whitening product). |
I will try this today, it seems helps. Thanks! |
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Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:04 pm |
Sis Sweet,
I have finally tried what you have told, I only use the tray for an hour before bedtime (while doing my scrapping!) It has been 4 days, I have noticed that the color is not even, will they even out after few more days?
Thanks a lot! |
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Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:13 pm |
I would not mix the whitening gel with your toothpaste. The gel should not be touching your gums at all, and brushing the gel on your teeth may cause damage. I suggest you speak to your dentist.
I bleach my teeth from time to time with the professional kit from the dentist. The pain / sensitivity is horrible - so I know where you are coming from. I suggest that you speak to your dentist as s/he can give you a weaker whitening gel that would cause less sensitivity. |
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Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:22 pm |
misspisces wrote: |
I would not mix the whitening gel with your toothpaste. The gel should not be touching your gums at all, and brushing the gel on your teeth may cause damage. I suggest you speak to your dentist.
I bleach my teeth from time to time with the professional kit from the dentist. The pain / sensitivity is horrible - so I know where you are coming from. I suggest that you speak to your dentist as s/he can give you a weaker whitening gel that would cause less sensitivity. |
Thank you for your responding, but the question of today is not sensitivity.
Today's question:
Sis Sweet,
I have finally tried what you have told, I only use the tray for an hour before bedtime (while doing my scrapping!) It has been 4 days, I have noticed that the color is not even, will they even out after few more days?
Thanks a lot! |
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Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:11 am |
i suggust not add with it, for it will cause some reaction |
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