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Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:11 am      Reply with quote
Yesterday, I finally got around to making Doba's Lemon Hair Spray. I wanted to make it into a gel and tried to do so by adding xanthan gum powder. I followed her directions and added only a little bit at the end of a knife. Boy, what a mess it made. It didn't dissolve in the liquid but became solid. So, being me, I kept adding more thinking something will surely dissolve. The powder never did dissolve and the liquid remained as runny as it had been.

So, my questions are:

Can someone tell me what I did wrong and how I can get the xanthan gum powder to dissolve?

Is there any other thickening agent that's easier to use?
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:33 am      Reply with quote
Skippie It has to be added to a warm product, here

Description: Natural gum derived as an excretion product from bacteriae (Xanthomas campestris), composed of pure natural polysaccharides (sugars) constituted of glucose, mannose & glucuronic acid. Purity >98 %, White powder, oderless. Soluble in water (use warm water to avoid lumps). CAS# 11138-66-2.

INCI Name: Xanthan gum.

Properties: Non-gelling thickener (but binds water), viscosity, volume & foam enhancer, emulsion stabilizer, lubricant, suspending agent.

Use: Dissolve in warm water, usual final concentration 0.5-2%.

Applications: Shampoos, conditioners, lotions, creams, body washes, shower gels.

Here is a link to all thickeners they sell and if you click on each you get information like I posted above:


http://www.makingcosmetics.com/Thickeners-c41/

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Skippie wrote:
Yesterday, I finally got around to making Doba's Lemon Hair Spray. I wanted to make it into a gel and tried to do so by adding xanthan gum powder. I followed her directions and added only a little bit at the end of a knife. Boy, what a mess it made. It didn't dissolve in the liquid but became solid. So, being me, I kept adding more thinking something will surely dissolve. The powder never did dissolve and the liquid remained as runny as it had been.

So, my questions are:

Can someone tell me what I did wrong and how I can get the xanthan gum powder to dissolve?

Is there any other thickening agent that's easier to use?

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Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:36 am      Reply with quote
Oops Sorry! That link isn't going to work try here and check under thickeners!

http://www.makingcosmetics.com/

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Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:41 am      Reply with quote
Thanks DM. The liquid definitely wasn't warm when I added the powder. I'll try heating it up. Appreciate your help.
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Skippie wrote:
Thanks DM. The liquid definitely wasn't warm when I added the powder. I'll try heating it up. Appreciate your help.


You are welcome Skippie! I also use a small wisk to help get it nice and smooth! I hope it works better the second go round!

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:33 am      Reply with quote
It still didn't get as thick as I would have liked, DM. I'm thinking I need to use some gelatin. Laughing
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