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Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:33 pm |
So I have been reading more and more (trying to get through that MEGA HUGE dermarolling thread)
and came across this in there.
****I have to tell her how many units i want (by the moment only 2: the 0,5mm and the 1,5mm) I have read somewhere that going deeper could cause some breaking capilares and I am not willing to take that risk. But maybe the super big one is great for te body! ***
is this true? i also read on that thread that longer needles above 1.5mm, can also cause nerve paralysis.
If this is true, my quest for a dermastamp continues. will only get the 1.5mm after reading that, if its true, that is.
Best Wishes
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:20 am |
Storke,
I would really suggest that you read the articles in the CIT/Dermarolling Articles thread. Those share the perspectives of EXPERTS who do this day in and out for their profession. I can tell you are on a quest for knowledge, so why not read the basics directly from the pros and get the BEST source of info?
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29860
Reading those articles will 1) educate you on how needling REALLY works, and 2) why you do (or do not) need certain length needles.
As far as your questions:
- Breaking blood vessels is to be expected when rolling, and you NEED to have blood released in order to stimulate the wound healing cascade.
- Pros used to use needles as long as 3.0mm, but are finding that 1.0mm and 1.5mm needles can accomplish the same results. But I have not read about any nerve damage when rollers in any of the above lengths are in used in the proper manner.
And if you take the time to check out the thread above, you will see that my 3rd post even shares a study with results by needle length. |
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:44 am |
Will definitely check out those links, and do some MORE reading.
Best Wishes
Storke |
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:53 am |
Hi Bethany
I am knee deep in the reading of those dermarolling links! Thanks very much for posting them.
The first link u posted (where you said was your fav article) no longer works, for some reason.
the other links you posted do work okay.
I particularly liked this article that you posted for me to read. It talks specifically about needle length and that anything longer than a 1.5mm can increase the risk or nerve damage or paralysis. Truly helps make up my mind to purchase a 1.5mm dermastamp, but so far the only one that I can find on the net, is that divine beauty dermastamp one.
Warm Regards,
STorke |
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:22 am |
Storke,
I should probably keep my nose out seeing as I haven't braved rolling so far. You may have posted somewhere but what draws you to the stamp rather than the roller? |
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:42 am |
Stork wrote: |
Hi Bethany
I am knee deep in the reading of those dermarolling links! Thanks very much for posting them.
The first link u posted (where you said was your fav article) no longer works, for some reason.
the other links you posted do work okay.
I particularly liked this article that you posted for me to read. It talks specifically about needle length and that anything longer than a 1.5mm can increase the risk or nerve damage or paralysis. Truly helps make up my mind to purchase a 1.5mm dermastamp, but so far the only one that I can find on the net, is that divine beauty dermastamp one.
Warm Regards,
STorke |
try this one:
http://www.dermaconcepts.com/documents/0000/0103/Articles_-_Environ_-_Micro_Needling.pdf
I copied and paste the title line into Google and was floored to find that my summary of rolling links and overview has been posted on a gazillion forums, lol. |
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:45 am |
Stork wrote: |
I particularly liked this article that you posted for me to read. It talks specifically about needle length and that anything longer than a 1.5mm can increase the risk or nerve damage or paralysis. Truly helps make up my mind to purchase a 1.5mm dermastamp, but so far the only one that I can find on the net, is that divine beauty dermastamp one.
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Keep in mind that they were most likely comparing it to the 3.0mm that was the predecessor...the difference between the 1.5mm stamp and the 1.8mm stamp is negligable.
But buy whatever YOU feel most comfortable with! |
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:57 am |
DarkMoon wrote: |
Storke,
I should probably keep my nose out seeing as I haven't braved rolling so far. You may have posted somewhere but what draws you to the stamp rather than the roller? |
She's just treating acne scars. |
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Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:04 am |
The main reason I decided not to use the dermaroller, is that after alot of research into, it seems there is a risk of getting 'trackmarks' left from the dermaroller.
whereas from a dermastamp, seems much less likely to occur. as u r stamping, straight up and down motion, rather than a rolling and lifting motion which u use on a dermaroller. |
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