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What's the proper way to use Hyaluronic Acid serum?

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Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:04 am      Reply with quote
As titled. I found whatever HA serum I used, it just dried out my skin like never before. I can actually feel my face is tight and if I look closely, there're dehydrating lines! Shock Isn't HA supposed to plump up your skin and hydrate it at the same time? But no! I understand if you're in a dry climate, I'm in Vancouver, then the HA is probably going to suck the moisture out from your skin compared to when you're in a humid climate.

I found the best way to apply it so far although still not perfect or acheiving the results I want is to spray my face with water/ toner first. Keep my face damp or wet first before applying the HA, then wait a few mins, and apply a moisturizer on top. If necessary, then mist lightly again afterwards. This is the best approach I found to using it but my skin still feels dry regardless. So is HA not for me or what? Anyone here the same as me?? Sad
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I have some HA but it is more like a gel than a serum consistency. I got mine from Perfect Complexion and the directions say to use as a compress. I tried it as a compress once but got too impatient so I ended up rubbing it in. I did notice a tightening/pulling effect but it seemed like it wasn't because of dryness so much as weird residue that had created a mask-like film on my face.

I will have to try and try as a compress again. What do your instructions say? Maybe you can just incorporate into moisturizer?
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:59 am      Reply with quote
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I have some HA but it is more like a gel than a serum consistency. I got mine from Perfect Complexion and the directions say to use as a compress. I tried it as a compress once but got too impatient so I ended up rubbing it in. I did notice a tightening/pulling effect but it seemed like it wasn't because of dryness so much as weird residue that had created a mask-like film on my face.

I will have to try and try as a compress again. What do your instructions say? Maybe you can just incorporate into moisturizer?


hhm what exactly does it mean by compress? Is it like tapping it into the skin? I tried both gel and liquidy consistency but I still found it's drying.

The instruction on mine didn't say much. It just says apply after cleansing. I guess it's too drying for me to just apply it on its own. I have to mix it with something else to keep it more moisturized I found but still not moisturized enough. So what exactly is the point of doing that sometimes I wonder?? I want that plumped hydrated skin it claims! Sad
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:09 pm      Reply with quote
HA pulls moisture up to it either from the air or from your own skin, are you drinking enough fluids to make sure you aren't bordering on dehydrated?
I have used it on moist skin as a serum and always follow with a moisturizer, I have never had the drying effect you are, but have read that some others have. Smile

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HA pulls moisture up to it either from the air or from your own skin, are you drinking enough fluids to make sure you aren't bordering on dehydrated?
I have used it on moist skin as a serum and always follow with a moisturizer, I have never had the drying effect you are, but have read that some others have. Smile


I used to drink coffee but I cut down on it already. In fact, I didn't even drink it now. I drink lots of water a day, at least 1.5L. I seem to feel dehydrated internally somehow as well as my skin Sad My skin seems to be more dry after I used organic natural products from GOW & Everyday Minerals as well as a Zinc Oxide only sunscreen with grape seed extract in it. I was hoping HA can help me but the same! Sad
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Maybe try a deep hydrating mask fairly often for a while to help get your skin back to a natural balance? You can use a very "heavy" moisturizer as a mask and just leave it on say for a hour or so in the evening before you head to bed? Just a suggestion. Smile

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Maybe try a deep hydrating mask fairly often for a while to help get your skin back to a natural balance? You can use a very "heavy" moisturizer as a mask and just leave it on say for a hour or so in the evening before you head to bed? Just a suggestion. Smile


That's actually a very good suggestion! In fact, I do that like twice weekly now with those hydrating sheet masks and it helps. But guess I can't use EDM as it's too drying now. Not sure if it's just their minerals or me. But hydrating masks are too pricy to use all the time like everyday. Any suggestions for a really good hydrating moisturizer I can use at night or sunscreen? I don't like it too oily/ greasy though cuz it just sits on top of my skin without absorbing. Confused
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:17 pm      Reply with quote
For a moisturizer that's reasonable and readily avaliable many are having good results with CeraVe which is at drugstores. One idea that I have done is put a layer on and let it sink in, then after an hour or so tissue off just the excess and leave just enough for your comfort level.

I have not used the EM line but Aromaleigh makes a few formulas of MMU all bismuth oxychloride free, you may want to check them out Glissade is specifically targeted to dry or mature skin! Smile I have used the brand for many years and love it.

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Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:52 pm      Reply with quote
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For a moisturizer that's reasonable and readily avaliable many are having good results with CeraVe which is at drugstores. One idea that I have done is put a layer on and let it sink in, then after an hour or so tissue off just the excess and leave just enough for your comfort level.

I have not used the EM line but Aromaleigh makes a few formulas of MMU all bismuth oxychloride free, you may want to check them out Glissade is specifically targeted to dry or mature skin! Smile I have used the brand for many years and love it.

http://www.aromaleigh.com


Thanks DarkMoon! I actually never heard of CeraVe before. I wonder if they have it in Vancouver? I'll definitely check out Aromaleigh. The problem with my skin is, it still breaks out now even in my late 20's! It's dry but oily at the same time...not sure if you get what I mean Embarassed
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:56 pm      Reply with quote
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hhm what exactly does it mean by compress? Is it like tapping it into the skin? I tried both gel and liquidy consistency but I still found it's drying.


I was sort of confounded as to how to compress the product as well. But from what I was able to gather, you are to put the product on a rag and then hold on your face with pressure for 4-5 minutes. There was emphasis on utilizing pressure to prevent air from getting in. Someone even recommended putting on the skin and putting saran wrap over the top for an 'air-tight seal'. This was difficult for me not only bc of the time commitment and potential messiness (if i were to use saran wrap), it seemed like alot of the product was wasted in the rag. I guess the plastic wrap would address that....
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http://www.aromaleigh.com

Thanks DarkMoon! I actually never heard of CeraVe before. I wonder if they have it in Vancouver? I'll definitely check out Aromaleigh. The problem with my skin is, it still breaks out now even in my late 20's! It's dry but oily at the same time...not sure if you get what I mean Embarassed


I understand many people have combination skin or dry on the surface yet prone to breakouts! I have the link to the company that makes CeraVe I think you might have to buy online, unless another Canadian member knows who might carry it there?

http://www.cerave.com/

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I was sort of confounded as to how to compress the product as well. But from what I was able to gather, you are to put the product on a rag and then hold on your face with pressure for 4-5 minutes. There was emphasis on utilizing pressure to prevent air from getting in. Someone even recommended putting on the skin and putting saran wrap over the top for an 'air-tight seal'. This was difficult for me not only bc of the time commitment and potential messiness (if i were to use saran wrap), it seemed like alot of the product was wasted in the rag. I guess the plastic wrap would address that....


hmm That sounds a lot like the idea of doing a Lotion Mask with it. There is a whole thread devoted to that subject. Smile

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Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:20 pm      Reply with quote
I have very dry skin, once a week I put extra virgin olive oil on my face, wipe off the excess and go to bed.

I switch around, sometimes with rosehips oil and avovado as well.

Very effective and cost friendly method.

When you wake up, your skin just absorbs the oil fully and is very plump and nice. Not overly oily and no breakouts as well
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Maybe using a gentle cleanser like Cetaphil or a milk-type cleanser will help not dry out your skin.

I can't use HA by itself as it's not enough. It doesn't moisturise deeply enough. I use it as a booster to my moisturiser if my skin is feeling dry. I gave my HA to my fiance to use with his regime and it works really well for him. He has much drier skin than me.

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miss mei wrote:
Maybe using a gentle cleanser like Cetaphil or a milk-type cleanser will help not dry out your skin.

I can't use HA by itself as it's not enough. It doesn't moisturise deeply enough. I use it as a booster to my moisturiser if my skin is feeling dry. I gave my HA to my fiance to use with his regime and it works really well for him. He has much drier skin than me.


hhm it's interesting that drier skin would benefit from the HA. My skin is quite dry too sometimes peeling but I found that it dries me out even more by using HA... The best way I found to use it is to apply the HA serum first and then moisturizer afterwards to seal it. If I just apply the serum by itself, my face would feel tight and uncomfortable later...
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Ok, can I just say that the HA from perfectcomplexion is nothing short of miraculous for me! I was having MAJOR crosshatching, dryness and tightness around my eyes from putting Obagi too close to my lashes and too frequently. The pulling and tightness was so severe it was causing vertical rippling under my eye and pulling at the outer corners of my eyes, which was causing my eyes to weep ALL day. Not only that, the cross hatching was so bad, it literally looked like elephant skin. It felt and looked like someone had painted Elmer's around my eyes and left it to dry, contracting and contorting the skin. I was applying eye cream literally about 25-30 times a day.

At my wits end after about a week of this, I decided to slather on the hyaluronic acid around my eyes and make an eye mask out of a sandwich bag with holes for the eyes and put that over the top. I left it on for about 20 minutes and can I say how amazed I was when I took the plastic off. The cross hatching and tightness was gone and I only had a few remaining wrinkles that were only slightly worse than when I started Obagi. I have continued this treatment 3 times a day for the last 4 days or so and my eyes are almost back to normal. After I remove the plastic, I apply eye cream and rub in any remaining HA. I do know that the immediate effects on the first day or so were temporary because after each treatment, my skin would slowly start to regress until I did the treatment again. However, as the days have gone on, the effects have sustained themselves longer and longer and today I only did it twice. The skin around my eyes is so much better and will probably be back to 'normal' in another 2-3 days.

I don't know if it was the hylauronic acid, the water in the product or what but I am sold on this stuff!

For anyone interested in differences between what this product is like vs theirs, this product is thick like a gel so it is easy to apply in a thick layer w/o it running or dripping. There is no scent and it is transparent.

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its_kristy, would u happen to have the full ingredient list for your HA or is it just water and HA in it? I wonder is it cuz u put plastic over it so there's absoultely no water loss at all. So water is forced to trap in your skin. hhm... my HA, it says it's a mask and it's in gel form too. It contains other ingredients in it too. Confused
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Stardustdy wrote:
DarkMoon wrote:
Maybe try a deep hydrating mask fairly often for a while to help get your skin back to a natural balance? You can use a very "heavy" moisturizer as a mask and just leave it on say for a hour or so in the evening before you head to bed? Just a suggestion. Smile


That's actually a very good suggestion! In fact, I do that like twice weekly now with those hydrating sheet masks and it helps. But guess I can't use EDM as it's too drying now. Not sure if it's just their minerals or me. But hydrating masks are too pricy to use all the time like everyday. Any suggestions for a really good hydrating moisturizer I can use at night or sunscreen? I don't like it too oily/ greasy though cuz it just sits on top of my skin without absorbing. Confused



I actually found by accident a product that works well as a hydrating mask!
My nose was very dry this wnter and kind of red.
I usually use Rhinaris nose gel, on the inside of my nose- but my skin was so dry and seemed irritated from everything (even when i used nothing on my face at the time).
So, out of desperation I put Rhinaris gel on my face and then rinsed it off.

I figured it is not harmful since u put that in your nose, so sticking it on your face will either moisturize or at least feel refreshing!

a 30ml tube is around $6 also.
I actually like it better than those expensive"moisture masks"

I actually clicked on this post hoping to get more info on HA.
I just got a small jar of Bioelements gel and am trying to figure out the best way to use it.
So far am using it after Derma E vanilla toner, then HA gel, then my regular face cream, then mineral powder (either colorescience or abbey st clare).

Can't really comment on everyday minerals-but I have 2 of their eye shadows here.
I was sent them a while ago, but hve so much makeup I have not tried it all yet Smile
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Stardustdy wrote:


http://www.aromaleigh.com

Thanks DarkMoon! I actually never heard of CeraVe before. I wonder if they have it in Vancouver? I'll definitely check out Aromaleigh. The problem with my skin is, it still breaks out now even in my late 20's! It's dry but oily at the same time...not sure if you get what I mean Embarassed


I understand many people have combination skin or dry on the surface yet prone to breakouts! I have the link to the company that makes CeraVe I think you might have to buy online, unless another Canadian member knows who might carry it there?

http://www.cerave.com/



I just saw today Skincarerx they sell CeraVe and they ship to Canada.
I was looking there cuz I bought a gift for my mother and she likes that brand!
It is $12.50 there and if you look online there is always atleast a 10% off coupon for that store.

I usually buy Derma E items from that site and the shipping to Canada is quite fast and takes under 2 weeks Smile

Also with skincarerx they price match other authorized sites and then give you an extra 15% off Smile
I do not know who carries that brand,but I always get discounts on my derma e items!
I pricematch w vitacost!
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its_kristy, would u happen to have the full ingredient list for your HA or is it just water and HA in it? I wonder is it cuz u put plastic over it so there's absoultely no water loss at all. So water is forced to trap in your skin. hhm... my HA, it says it's a mask and it's in gel form too. It contains other ingredients in it too. Confused


The place I bought this from is owned by a woman who compounds the products on her own and the label doesn't have any ingredients listed on it. The product page doesn't give any specifics either.

http://perfectcomplexion.net/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=20

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