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Tue May 18, 2010 7:11 am  |
| I'm getting so depressed with the area under my eyes. When I smile it basically looks like I've got slugs under my eyes! Two lumps of fat/skin/bags, whatever you want to call them. The lines under the slugs are pretty bad too. I think I can live with the lines but the slugs are making me look really old and tired and it's getting to a stage where each time I smile I immediately stop cos I'm so aware of it. What can I do?? |
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Tue May 18, 2010 7:51 am |
Welcome  ,
Join the crowd with under eye issues. Once aging or allergies set in we have to find ways to deal with it.For me and some others we have found help with the Easy eye products. I will give you a link to the thread and it is a long one. My before and after pictures are in the middle of page 4. I also do facial exercises for the eyes and face.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32702&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=75
Toby |
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female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Tue May 18, 2010 12:46 pm |
I join the club also 
Do i need both these products on the site?One of them was awfully expencive.Or can i do fine with one of them?I don`t have dark circles,but a "bag-problem"  |
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43,skin still without wrinkles,but neck is aging more,hoping that face-exercise will work,not found my program yet(i am Norwegian,excuse my english sometimes) |
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Tue May 18, 2010 2:34 pm |
I hope you get some help with your issues.  |
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Tue May 18, 2010 9:03 pm |
Stuff with caffeine and vitamin K helps.
I use a lot of random eye gels, still trying to find the "budget" one I like the best.
At what are do you "guys" have these eye issues?
just asking cuz my sister is 30 and has eye wrinkles a lot, but I am 33 and have none at all!
But I use caffeine eye gel every morning and random richer eye creams at night. |
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Tue May 18, 2010 9:11 pm |
| Zenia wrote: |
I join the club also
Do i need both these products on the site?One of them was awfully expensive.Or can i do fine with one of them?I don`t have dark circles,but a "bag-problem" |
I don't have dark circles just the eye bags.....as if that is not enough  anyway the tuck is on the expensive side but it really works and NOTHING else I have tried over the years worked. Also it can last up to a year!!! I use both products because they work together so well and are a treatment!
Toby |
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female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Tue May 18, 2010 11:45 pm |
Thank you Toby!
I will buy them both.For us that haven`t read the entire tread of 53 pages(puhh..)can you give us a short instruction of how to use it?
Which one is on top of the other?And do you use it at nights also? |
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43,skin still without wrinkles,but neck is aging more,hoping that face-exercise will work,not found my program yet(i am Norwegian,excuse my english sometimes) |
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Wed May 19, 2010 8:02 am |
i recommend the tanaka massage... its a lymphatic drainage that drains the puffiness from your face... its also great to keep your face contoured, skin healthy and glowing, and facial muscles in optimal condition.
do it yourself... effective and free!
good luck!
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36457 |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Wed May 19, 2010 8:22 am |
Sorry to question the above mentioned solution, but the Tanaka massage did not do much to my under eye area. It is a brilliant thing, though.
Currently I experiment with dietary changes.
If the circles are inherited, nothing will make them go away, unless there is a secret food intolerance causing it. I mean you may have inherited the allergy, not the circles themselves. Now I do not consume wheat and dairy, and my eyes look a tiny bit better, but still very dark. I will try to eliminate other foods, and see what happens. |
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Wed May 19, 2010 8:31 am |
you didn't find that the tanaka helped with eliminating the puffiness from the eyes by draining the fluids from the lower eye area? it didn't do anything for you?
from my experience i found that it got rid of any eyebags, and was also very helpful for puffiness on my whole face. |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Wed May 19, 2010 8:46 am |
Iliana,
I have been doing the Tanaka twice a day for 1,5 months, and actually, my eye bags are still around. I posted my photos on the Tanaka thread, you can check them out. Not very spectacular though:). |
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Wed May 19, 2010 8:54 am |
 m.. still there hey? well keep track of them and if anything changes, let us all know.
i found with the tanaka it took me 2-3 months to see med/major changes to my face/skin... while my best friend had instanteous results each time.
will take a peek at you now.
good luck everyone! |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Wed May 19, 2010 9:07 am |
| Sycamore wrote: |
Iliana,
I have been doing the Tanaka twice a day for 1,5 months, and actually, my eye bags are still around. I posted my photos on the Tanaka thread, you can check them out. Not very spectacular though:). |
Hi Sycamore!On what page of that tread are your picures?The tread was loooong..  |
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43,skin still without wrinkles,but neck is aging more,hoping that face-exercise will work,not found my program yet(i am Norwegian,excuse my english sometimes) |
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Wed May 19, 2010 8:39 pm |
| I am also always on the look out for anything to delete my horrible eye circles. I have been using the eye tuck for the last 5 months or so. I ordered a sample size from NCN and it has lasted that long. Anyways it did help alittle! I also use 1tablespoon warm water plus 1/4 tsp. unflavored gelatin twice a week. This has helped alot! I am about to try Bright I serum from Skinactives. |
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Thu May 20, 2010 3:05 am |
| Sycamore wrote: |
Iliana,
I have been doing the Tanaka twice a day for 1,5 months, and actually, my eye bags are still around. I posted my photos on the Tanaka thread, you can check them out. Not very spectacular though:). |
I have been doing the Tanaka massage for six months, first couple of months I did it 2x a day. It is wonderful for my lower face but did nothing for my eye bags, I honestly don't know what I would do if I didn't have Easy Eye solutions to depend on. |
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female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Thu May 20, 2010 4:18 am |
Toby,
I totally agree about Tanaka, it is best for jowls, forehead wrinkles and NL folds, but not for eye area problems.
Although EES is fine with the bags, it will not lighten the under eye area significantly. It is still the best, I use it every day, anyways. It seems to work best together with some HA stuff.
Syc |
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Thu May 20, 2010 4:43 am |
sweetie (dummie) the original poster is nowhere to be found.
i still recommend the tanaka massage for her eye puffiness... its free! and it works for some pple, maybe not all...but its worth a try. nothing to lose. its free and healthy.
later girls! |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu May 20, 2010 4:56 am |
Llina, you are absolutely right.
I am thinking of purchasing the Wonderbar. Some people mentioned it helped with the circles, as far as I remember. |
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Thu May 20, 2010 5:23 am |
| Sycamore wrote: |
Llina, you are absolutely right.
I am thinking of purchasing the Wonderbar. Some people mentioned it helped with the circles, as far as I remember. |
You looked great on the pictures Sycamore!
Btw;what is "HA stuff"?
I have eye-bags,but not huge.Some days worse that others.I have creams that can give immediate effect(30 minutes or so),but not so much as i want.
My major problem is that the eye-eara is in a way "sunk in".Meaning the decrease of collagen and elastin has made the tissue thinner.
(I am trying with my best english here,i hope you understand)
What i do need is a plump-up effect.You understand?
What is really effective is that treatment you get in salons.Acid peeling/deep mosturising,that makes you look 20 years younger  !This is what the movie stars use.
It needs to be continued every 6th week.
With ultrasound in addition it will do magic. |
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43,skin still without wrinkles,but neck is aging more,hoping that face-exercise will work,not found my program yet(i am Norwegian,excuse my english sometimes) |
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Thu May 20, 2010 6:01 am |
Zenia,
Neither I am a native speaker, so I can understand you very well:).
HA is Hyaluronic Acid. When it is put into a serum, it can absorb a lot of moisture from the environment, and makes skin hydrated and plump. It makes my hollows somehow less visible for a couple of hours used together with the Easy Eye Solutions Instant Tuck, which tightens the under eye skin a bit.
I understand your problem, I have the same: sunken hollows under the eyes. It is basically a bone structure problem, as there are neither bones or muscles directly under the eyes to hold the skin. The skin is also very thin. The veins are more visible than in any other area in the face.
I guess with peeling and moisturizing procedures you will not have the under eye skin thickened. BTW there are Hollywood stars with bad under eye structure e.g. Ashley Judd. |
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Thu May 20, 2010 6:55 am |
| Sycamore wrote: |
Zenia,
Neither I am a native speaker, so I can understand you very well:).
HA is Hyaluronic Acid. When it is put into a serum, it can absorb a lot of moisture from the environment, and makes skin hydrated and plump. It makes my hollows somehow less visible for a couple of hours used together with the Easy Eye Solutions Instant Tuck, which tightens the under eye skin a bit.
I understand your problem, I have the same: sunken hollows under the eyes. It is basically a bone structure problem, as there are neither bones or muscles directly under the eyes to hold the skin. The skin is also very thin. The veins are more visible than in any other area in the face.
I guess with peeling and moisturizing procedures you will not have the under eye skin thickened. BTW there are Hollywood stars with bad under eye structure e.g. Ashley Judd. |
Hi!Where are you originally from?Good it`s not only me that is not primarily english-speaking
Where do you buy the HA,and what serum do you use with it?
I will now test out the Easy Eye Solution.Waiting for my packet,very exited.
This hollowness seem to be my aging problem,and not the wrinkles(which i barely have).I was a bit surpriced by this as the years have gone by.To escape the wrinkles,only for this... 
Well,there are creams;CP,that claims to reconstruct the skin(elastin/collagen).(the bone-structure they can do nothing about of cource)
If nothing else works,i will try the salon treatment.It will probably improve my look as long as it lasts.
Perhaps i will be pleasantly surpriced by the Easy Eye Solution.I can only hope! |
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43,skin still without wrinkles,but neck is aging more,hoping that face-exercise will work,not found my program yet(i am Norwegian,excuse my english sometimes) |
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:24 am |
| Interesting, I have a Coffee essential oil, wondering if adding it to Jojoba and under the eye will achieve the effect... |
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Fri May 21, 2010 1:05 am |
Zenia,
I forgot to thank you for the nice words!
I am from Hungary, Eastern-Europe.
I hope you will get nice results by EES. As your eye circles have developed recently, you have a good chance that it may work for you nicely. Mine are stubborn, have been around since the age of 20.
As far as I remember you can order HA from skinactives.com, that sells different potions for Do It Yourself serums and creams, but I buy Is Clinical Youth Complex on Ebay. It is pricey, but somehow better due to its other ingredients. On Ebay there are tons of HA serums and creams for reasonable prices.
Another option is getting fillers (Juvederm or Restylane), because they fill out the hollows. Results vary.
Zverenok,
Another thing I read was that Chamomile essential oil might work for dark circles, never tried though. |
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44, light, sensitive skin that cannot tolerate actives, Ageless if you Dare, Tanaka massage, drybrushing, OCM, dermarolling for stretchmarks, tons of supplements for better skin. |
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Sat May 22, 2010 7:02 am |
| Thank you everyone for replying and all the helpful advice. I've been checking out the Tanaka face massage. Started last night and plan to do it once every night. Just about memorised it all! As my main concern is my eyes I've going to do the eye part of the massage 100 times and just incorporate that into the whole Tanaka massage routine. Wish me luck! |
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