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Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:37 am |
Hi skincare experts,
I have been very skicare conscious lately after realizing that I started to look saggy. I live in Eastern-Europe so I managed to look a bit younger than my 44 years even before starting this journey, but that is just because in my country most women look older than their ages over 35.
Now I guess I can see improvement, but I am not sure. My main problems are eye circles, a slightly bumpy forhead, NL folds, and some sagging due to weight loss. I have dry skin, I only get pimples when I do something to my skin, that it does not like.
I have tried different methods, potions and some tools for like 3-4 months. About a month ago I realized that I have to change my diet, because eye circles will not go away from drybrushing, rolling and EES, only if I treat them from the inside also.
So, I do not eat dairy, wheat and very little sugar. I read that chicken bone soup is good for the skin, so I eat broth every single day, and put kelp and avocados into it. I eat lots of soy. I know that soy is controversial, but now that I do not drink milk and eat cheese, I need it badly, and I feel that I need its phytoestrogen.
I certainly take supplements. I also drink a cup of herbal tea with peppermint, burdock, lemon balm and echinacea, as I googled herbs that elevate hyaluronic acid in the human body.
I followed the Perricone diet some years ago, but that was too much for me, I do not like salmon that much, and I could not eliminate all starch for long weeks. I missed potatoes and rice.
It is a bit ridiculous beauty regimen, but I guess, I have an improvement in my skin tone, and it is easier to keep my weight this way. I can eat as much as I want and do not gain weight. Although I am not sure, that I can follow this diet for life. I miss cheese.
Ok I just started this thread, because I wonder what others eat in order to look better!
BTW I am a heavy smoker, and I know this ruins almost everything, but I try to reduce the damage with all the beauty foods.
Thanks for reading this. |
_________________ 44, light, sensitive skin that cannot tolerate actives, Ageless if you Dare, Tanaka massage, drybrushing, OCM, dermarolling for stretchmarks, tons of supplements for better skin. |
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Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:57 pm |
My skin tends to look best when I eat minimal amounts of sugar and plenty of green leafy vegetables. So every day a massive salad, or else some greens cooked in a little olive oil with garlic.
I eat dairy, but generally in a fermented form like yogurt or kefir, also a little goats cheese on a salad.
Staying hydrated is key, I think, so I drink water throughout the day, often with a slice of lime or lemon. |
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Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:29 pm |
Diet is really tough. I think it is all about balance, myself, and I don't eliminate anything. But I think a person can't go wrong eating lots of fruits and vegetables. I am a smoker too so I try to eat the fruits that are high in C. I think fruits and vegetables do more good for ones body than supplements, but that is just me! |
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Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:00 pm |
sounds like you are already conscious enough of what you eat in order to make a difference. i agree with rileygirl and tarapaca here--lots of green leafy vegetables, and "dark" vegetables in general--kale, chard, blackberries, etc.
I am noticing some amazing improvements with the regular addition of pumpkin to my diet.
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2602/2
It is very anti-inflammatory and contains wonderful nutrients.
I would type in various foods you are curious about intowww.nutritiondata.com and see what foods you need in terms of getting the vitamins and minerals you might be lacking.
I tend to search for the most anti-inflammatory foods so they balance out the other inflammatory foods i might be ingesting during the day (coffee, meat, cheese, etc).
Also, have you seen the thread on green smoothies? i have all but replaced supplements with green smoothies, and they taste and feel excellent. Its a great way to make sure you are getting top nutrition, if you make sure to plan them correctly.
finally, I would recommend adding chia seeds to your diet, which are super-hydrators and draw to and keep water in the cells.
i love eating for health and beauty; it's so simple!
--avalange |
_________________ http://newnaturalbeauty.tumblr.com/ 37, light-toned olive skin, broken caps, normal skin. My staples: Osea cleansing milk, Algae Oil, Advanced Protection Cream, Eyes & Lips, Tata Harper, Julie Hewett makeup, Amazing Cosmetics Powder, & By Terry Light Expert, Burnout, and daily inversion therapy and green smoothies! |
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Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:13 pm |
Sorry, didn't get back in time to edit my post, but there is a book I have that tells you lots of different foods and what they can do for the skin. It is a good book if you are into that type of thing. It's called "Feed Your Skin, Starve Your Wrinkles" by Allison Tannis. |
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marycotter5678
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Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:25 pm |
About 3 months ago, I cut down the majority of my sugar intake, also try to avoid dairy and gluten/wheat. |
_________________ 30 y/o ~ fair, thin skin, fine lines around eyes mostly ~ simple routine of Deitanseki soap & olive+coconut oil mixture |
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Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:08 am |
Thanks a lot for the great replies,
Tarapaca,
The foods you eat are very healthy. I agree that yogurt and kefir are not bad for the skin. But I wonder what you eat to make your stomach full?. All nutrition advice is about super foods, but if you eat only those, you actually starve. Hardly any expert give a sound advice on full diets. Perricone does somehow, but I tend to lose too much weight eating Perricone, and that makes me gaunt again. I get a beautiful saggy skin while eating these healthy foods.
Rileygirl,
You can understand the smoker's skincare * spam alert * dilemma very well then:) I actually quit for 3 years and looked much better, but slept for three years. Smoking is not good, but does something with my brain that I miss. I eat greens a lot, too.
Avalange,
I will order Tannis' book on amazon. I like reading everything about skin diets. Thanks for the pumpkin, I did not know that.
Smmothies, yes. I tried them for a couple of days, I did not see a real difference on my skin though, and it was a bit of a mess, but I should give it another try. I tend to go on with things that give me instant results. Like avocado does.
Marycotter,
Did you see any difference on your skin with your new eating pattern?
Lately I am getting obsessed with HA. It makes skin good. Some foods inhibit the enzyme that breaks it down in the body. Starchy vegetables, kelp, and some herbs. On the other hand some vegetables help the enzyme to break down HA. Interestingly enough lettuce and carrots are among them.
Here are some data about the herbs:
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/fstr/6/1/6_74/_article
One more thing, I looked the best when I was on the Primal Diet. It is really crazy, you eat only raw, meat included. I glowed, but everybody around me thought I went crazy. |
_________________ 44, light, sensitive skin that cannot tolerate actives, Ageless if you Dare, Tanaka massage, drybrushing, OCM, dermarolling for stretchmarks, tons of supplements for better skin. |
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Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:09 am |
The fruits and vegetables I buy at the farmers' markets don't have any added fruit puree or sugar. I don't think it is possible to gain weight eating a veg/fruit diet. In fact, that is the problem, as Sycamore noted.
I have always been very nutrition conscious, and in the last few years I have almost completely given up dairy (goodbye ice cream!) although I will occasionally use cheese for flavoring in cooking. Instead of having multiple cups of coffee/day, I drink one cup of coffee and then green teas plus lots of water (I have always been a big water drinker, starting with two cups when I first get up.)
I am trying to cut back on grains,but that is really tough, maybe impossible. Being a vegetarian, there is only so much I can sacrifice, and it's hard to subsist on beans and nuts.
So gauntness is a big problem for me and I would love to hear how other vegetarians deal with that. |
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Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:49 am |
Hermosa,
Even if you are not a vegetarian, but you do not eat bad fats, white sugar, refined grains, whole cream and all the things that are bad for you, you will end up looking like a ghost.
I looked up all extreme diets on youtube. Raw vegans are wrinkled usually, the followers of the macrobiotic diet look a tiny bit sick, they are so skinny, those who eat fruits only look the worst.
It is easy to say to eat everything in moderation, but if I eat pork chops with mashed potatoes and drink a half bottle of wine with it, I cannot do it with moderation. I either suspect a skin killing enemy behind every steak and start to starve on strawberries, avocados and salmon, or eat an unhealthy diet.
I started this topic, because I wanted to know how other people handle it. |
_________________ 44, light, sensitive skin that cannot tolerate actives, Ageless if you Dare, Tanaka massage, drybrushing, OCM, dermarolling for stretchmarks, tons of supplements for better skin. |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:57 am |
I'm like Riley - I don't eliminate anything from my diet. The only thing I don't eat - are processed foods. I definitely eat tonnes of fruits and veggies (have also added green smoothies lately), lean meats, and complex carbs. I try to avoid simple carbs and dairy, but I do eat ice cream (I LOVE good ice cream) and dark chocolate.
Physically (body) I look good for my age (I also exercise regularly), but my skin is not the best (never was ). |
_________________ 44, oily T-zone, acne prone (PCOS) ~ Baby Q & Tanda (blue light) ~ Karin Herzog (Oxy Face, Vita-A-Kombi 2, Vitamin H, Eye cream) ~ PSF (Cramberry Eye Gel) ~ Pearl/Silk powder primer and mist ~ L2K ~ MMU |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:30 am |
I tend to eat lots of veggies and fruits. Especially in summer as we have a bunch of fruit trees and wild black raspberry bushes.
I've never been much of a meat eater, but feel I need it for the protein. If I cut it out too much, I feel bad. I do eat fish at least twice a week.
I've been trying to incorporate more tomato paste in my diet. It's supposed to be very good for your skin. I recently tried mixing the chia seed gel with the tomato paste and found it pretty good. Otherwise, the chia gel texture isn't too appealing to me. This mixture has two things that are supposed to be very good for you (at least based on current evidence).
My weaknesses are sweets (especially chocolate) and wine (I usually go with red for the health benefits) |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:46 am |
I have a horrid diet- you name the junk, I am eating it. I am especially addicted to sugar. I am allergic to caffeine and use sugar as a cheat for quick energy.
However, I exercise vigorously five days a week trying to compensate. My blood pressure and cholesterol are very good. |
_________________ DIY Vit C, .1% Retin-a micro, Ageless, Hydroquinone 2%, microdermabrasion cloth, daily aerobics, Tanaka massage, FE eyes, emu oil, Vitamin E, 30% glycolic peels |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:39 am |
Shastagirl,
I read it yesterday that tomato paste is good for sun protection, but did you notice any other effects on your skin?
According to the article a couple of people were fed some tomato paste daily for weeks, and got better skin than the control group. I do not like it that much without pasta though. |
_________________ 44, light, sensitive skin that cannot tolerate actives, Ageless if you Dare, Tanaka massage, drybrushing, OCM, dermarolling for stretchmarks, tons of supplements for better skin. |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:43 pm |
OMG, I LOVE tomato paste and/or pure. I could eat it with a spoon (been like that since I was a kid ). |
_________________ 44, oily T-zone, acne prone (PCOS) ~ Baby Q & Tanda (blue light) ~ Karin Herzog (Oxy Face, Vita-A-Kombi 2, Vitamin H, Eye cream) ~ PSF (Cramberry Eye Gel) ~ Pearl/Silk powder primer and mist ~ L2K ~ MMU |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:11 pm |
Sycamore wrote: |
I do not like it that much without pasta though. |
Me, too! I read about that and promptly went out and bought cans of tomato paste. Tried to eat is on crackers, bread, anything and I just could not stomach it! |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:22 pm |
I love tomato paste too! I read somewhere that if you eat half a can per day in addition to antioxidant benefits you can also get a small natural spf of 2-4 or something like that.
Its also great as a salad dressing take a few spoonfuls of tomato paste, add balsamic vinegar, some EVOO, and a small amount of chopped garlic or shallot, it's sooo good!
Those of you who eat pumpkin, are you eating it from a can? What do you eat it with? |
_________________ 42, have used tretinoin since age 18! Replenix CF serum and eye cream, RAMicro, Glytone 2 lotion every other day |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:37 pm |
Pumpkin can be mixed into *anything*. It is really good added to chili- you don't even taste it. Anything spicey will absorb the pumpkin flavor completely. I love to add it to brownies, too. Chocolate also absorbs the flavor. |
_________________ DIY Vit C, .1% Retin-a micro, Ageless, Hydroquinone 2%, microdermabrasion cloth, daily aerobics, Tanaka massage, FE eyes, emu oil, Vitamin E, 30% glycolic peels |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:51 pm |
Sycamore wrote: |
Shastagirl,
I read it yesterday that tomato paste is good for sun protection, but did you notice any other effects on your skin?
According to the article a couple of people were fed some tomato paste daily for weeks, and got better skin than the control group. I do not like it that much without pasta though. |
I can't say I've noticed anything so far. Plus I've been a little inconsistent in eating it daily. I figure it can't really hurt. I also heard that it is good for sun protection. |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:55 pm |
rileygirl wrote: |
Sycamore wrote: |
I do not like it that much without pasta though. |
Me, too! I read about that and promptly went out and bought cans of tomato paste. Tried to eat is on crackers, bread, anything and I just could not stomach it! |
Have you tried putting a little olive oil and garlic powder/salt mixed in with the tomato paste? I heard mention that one of the skin studies mixed it with olive oil and I have to say that it does make it taste better. I didn't think it would make that much difference. I'm going to try it with a little balsamic vinegar as well! Kinda like brushetta, which I like. |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:01 pm |
A much more palatable way for many people to get lycopene is watermelon, which is naturally rich in lycopene (about 40% of the amount in cooked tomatoes on a per calorie basis). Watermelon is rich in the cis version of lycopene, so it does not need to be cooked to make it more bio-available (c.f., tomatoes are richer in the trans form of lycopene, so what cooking does it change the shape of the molecule into the cis form, which is more bio-available).
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_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:46 pm |
ShastaGirl wrote: |
Have you tried putting a little olive oil and garlic powder/salt mixed in with the tomato paste? I heard mention that one of the skin studies mixed it with olive oil and I have to say that it does make it taste better. I didn't think it would make that much difference. I'm going to try it with a little balsamic vinegar as well! Kinda like brushetta, which I like. |
No, I haven't tried that. I guess I'll give that a go since I have all these cans!
cm5597, thanks for sharing that the watermelon is rich in lycopene. I love watermelon! |
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Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:26 am |
I'm quasi vegan (I still drink a cup of cow's milk per day and sometimes get eggs from a farm I know that treats chickens well)
I also don't really believe in "banned" foods (ok except animal products but that's not because I think they're bad, just don't agree with farming practices) since I believe that moderation is the key. I do have to control my carb (esp. sweets!) intake or else I go crazy.
I do eat (obviously) a LOT of veggies per day and I make sure that I have green, orange, red veggies every day.
For e.g. I have a smoothie for breakfast that has: one banana, strawberries, wild blueberries, carrots, half avocado, plus some random fruit (e.g. mango, pineapple, etc.).
I also have a big spinach salad every day, usually with chickpeas or beans and walnuts.
Also, I recently started participating in a CSA program so I get some of my organic veggies for cheaper now and delivered to my door
If there's a CSA program in your area, I really recommend it! |
_________________ 37, light brown hair, green eyes, very fair skin. Oily T zone, broken capillaries... Current regime: Tretinoin 0.05% every night, hydroquinone 4% twice per day, lachydran every other day, random moisturizers and sunscreen |
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Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:15 am |
I guess green smoothies really make a difference. I must take the trouble to incorporate it into my diet. |
_________________ 44, light, sensitive skin that cannot tolerate actives, Ageless if you Dare, Tanaka massage, drybrushing, OCM, dermarolling for stretchmarks, tons of supplements for better skin. |
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Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:27 am |
Sycamore wrote: |
I guess green smoothies really make a difference. I must take the trouble to incorporate it into my diet. |
Yes, they really are awesome for the skin and general health! The trick is finding recipes you love |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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