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Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:53 am |
Welcome Labosi! I'm in your age group and have just about every skincare device there is, and I do enjoy using them. However, I don't believe any of them are magic wands. You must be consistent and dedicated and be prepared to wait for results.
The Palacia High Frequency Wand is one of my favourite devices - it is especially beneficial for keeping breakouts at bay and I think it has a refining effect on the skin - long term.
But if I were to recommend a device to start off with, I would choose the Anti Aging Lightstim. I've been using it for about four years and my skin is holding up reasonably well for my age. I would also suggest you use Retin-A and Vitamin C. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Tue May 24, 2011 4:56 pm |
I just won a Jellen on eBay, total cost of the HF & shipping was $36. I should get it on Friday or Saturday. I won't feel too bad if it doesn't do much because of the low cost. I turned 65 on May 11th and the minute I woke up that day my whole attitide about life changed, i.e. "don't sweat the small stuff, and/or "get out of my way I'm on a mission!"
http://www.jellenproducts.com/Portable-High-Frequency-Machine-p/uc-3500.htm |
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havana8
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:19 pm |
pinkpanther wrote: |
Thanks Ava for the reply!!
I have since reduced to once a day. I dont usually put any topical and just run the device right after cleansing. And then my skincare after. I did once run it after putting my skincare just to see what the difference is.
The problem is there is really not any instructions. How high should I set the frequency to? I did try different settings so does it mean the higher the frequency the dryer the skin will become?
Thanks again, it is disappointing everyone loves this device but for me, my skin looks worse than before i started using it. So I really appreciate any suggestion what i might be doing wrong. |
I tend to agree with Ava that perhaps it is simply too much too soon.
Regarding your question about frequency, this is what they say here:
The machine is effective at all intensity levels including the lowest setting. It is not necessary to use the highest power level to achieve maximum results. The key to the best results is treatment consistency. 5 to 10 minutes a day treatment will do the trick (depending on the size of the treated area). No conductive gels required. High frequency treatment can be drying your skin especially during the winter months. If the skin gets dry cut number of treatments to once every 2-3 days and use the quality moisturizer, cream or oil while doing the procedure.
and here on the Jellen site under "How much current will I feel?" on the FAQ's/Usage tab:High frequency is a low level oscillating current that can be very soothing, relaxing and revitalizing. A slight tingling or zapping will be felt during treatment. Facial sensitivity rates vary from individual to individual. You can lower or raise the intensity during treatment to suit your personal comfort level by turning the power dial on the unit up or down. This machine is effective even at the lowest intensity setting so it is not necessary to use an extremely high power level to achieve maximum benefits from treatment. For best results, the key is treatment consistency (i.e. using the system regularly according to the usage guidelines).
Here also are step-by-step usage instructions (same tab) that you might find helpful:
1. Thoroughly cleanse your skin and gently pat dry. The elimination of dead skin cells is the first step in any effective facial treatment program. To properly prepare the treatment area to take maximum advantage of high frequency application, we would recommend one of the following:
• Steaming for a few minutes using a quality Facial Steamer
• Cleansing with a gentle and effective Exfoliation Scrub
• Exfoliating using a quality Microdermabrasion Machine
2. Apply desired skin care product (it is recommended that those with acne-prone skin apply desired topical acne cream following high frequency application).
3. Plug the wand into power outlet and switch on.
4. Slowly turn the power control dial to the lowest intensity setting. The wand will now begin to quietly "hum" as it begins its high frequency wave action. When touched to the surface of the skin, the glass electrode, in combination with the high frequency current generated by the system, will produce a very safe, and subtle therapeutic neon-violet glow as well as purifying, enriched oxygen molecules with a likeness to the pleasant scent of fresh clean air (Tip: if you are unable to immediately see the violet glow, try standing in a darkened room and gently whisk the wand against your skin).
5. Maximize the effectiveness of your favorite skin care cream or serum by lightly sweeping the high frequency wand over your skin in a circular or zig-zag motion for about 2-5 minutes depending on area being treated.
6. Always use a very low intensity dial setting during the first few days of initial use. When you no longer feel the intensity of the high frequency current, continue to work at a slightly higher setting. Continue to increase the intensity setting with each treatment until you reach your personal comfort zone.
Hope that helps some and welcome to the forum, pinkpanther. |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:11 pm |
I have dental implants and have never had an issue with using the HF device all around my mouth area. I don't feel any sensation in my implants at all. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:30 pm |
hi TheBaroness. the machine on the link u posted has an oscillation rate of only 20,000, and i believe that the dermawand has 100,000 while palacia and jellen is over 200,000 and it's the oscillation rate which makes this device stronger... so the dermawand ( which u r not happy with ) is stronger than the machine on this link...i would go for palacia, I bought it like almost 2 months ago, it has almost completely drained my constant edema around the jaw line and now my jawline is so sharp! I am also using it on my scalp for hair growth, i am achieving good results but not sure if it's palacia or the tamanu/black seed oi combo , I started using both around the same time... |
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Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:42 am |
Asked Charllene @ Palacia re my question about which gas is preferable for treating scalp/thinning hair and she said definitely the neon. Orange is very in this year so PERFECT! Neon it is!
Linny Bee |
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TaraMarie
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Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:44 am |
Hi SylviaKatt. I am using the HF device on clean, bare skin mostly. I started using the mushroom at full power over my entire face and neck and chest area then go back to my red spots and pimples and wrinkles with the stick-like wand with the little ball on the end (the "zapper"), which does more zapping. I can't use that on full power - too zappy! I'm doing this twice a day.
I am noticing my big pores are starting to shrink. I asked my 13-year-old today if I was imagining that and she said she notices too.
I do get some redness wherever I use the zapper,but it goes away. I have some red spots from pimples that I'm hoping will ultimately go away in this process. Time will tell.
My daughter used the zapper on a couple of small pimples tonight. I'm anxious to see how it works on her.
I'm happy with the results so far, in less than a week! |
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Mon May 16, 2016 4:10 am |
I disagree. I have both the deram wand and d’arsonval unit and find the d’arsonval unit so much more powerful and stronger. Plus the larger caps that go on the d’arsonval unit means you can hit more areas. The deramwand is nice, and great for the ocassional spots but it can’t create the lift and covers the whole face in much less time than the derma wand.
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Essentially the D'Arsonval unit is no different than a Dermawand..It just has more parts to play with. |
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Mon May 16, 2016 5:04 am |
Found it even cheaper...Ł13 Buy It Now Or Best Offer http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301653278737
I think this unit is stronger, at least, it feels that way, than the Dermawand (my DW eventually died on me!) Though there's no clues about hertz/oscillations - the instruction leaflet is in Chinglish.
I'm going to buy the Argon (violet) version for my teenage niece.
The "ribbed" HF units do look like sex toys though
I'm a bit more confident about using my Chinese unit now "Big Clive" (re my earlier Youtube link) has okayed it - usually he takes apart Chinese electronics to tell unsuspecting souls not to use them as they're not earthed or dangerous! |
_________________ Louise,45,UK.Sunscreen Face/Body L/Term!OCM(Castor/Carrier Oil,Vaculift),MUAC 12.5%,18% TCA,Working Up To SkinObsession 25% TCA/Jessner's.Ageless,Dr Roller,Retin-A 0.05% & 0.1%,AAging Lightstim,CP Serum,Dermawand,Vaculift Face 2 Body 2,Pretika Sonic Brush.Microfibre Cloth.Tua Viso(Broken ),Palovia (Started 7 April 2011!). |
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