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Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:47 am  |
How come other big brands of L-ascorbic serum are so pricey?? As I understand, the raw materials is cheap but much $ is to pay for the development of technology to make l-ascorbic serum stable without speedy oxidizing, so that it can last up to months.
There is a local skin care products maker in my home town, i believe, do not spend resources on product development. The way it operates is more of a packer that it sources raw chemical materials, mix & bottle them, finally put a label on to make its own brand. So it is able to produce numerous type of products even incorporating the newest cosmedical hypes like l-ascorbic, peptides, arbrutin, grapeseed, whitetea, vit C powder, hyaluronic acid etc....
Is that possible for a local producer to do all this, if not source outside, by developing its own formula ? My other Q is : Is that possible that the l-ascorbic serum it "produces" work like other big brands without perish? It is sold at such a cheap price :- US10. |
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:26 am |
| While I certainly agree that a large portion of the retail price on c serums goes to pay for marketing and research, I would have to say the stuff sold at $10 probably isn't all that stable. Part of the reason why we can make our own serums so cheaply is that those stablizers and preservatives are very expensive and/or unavailable to to the DIYers and are thus excluded from recipes. That then requires small and frequent batch making since the resulting serum has a shorter shelf life. |
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40, Asian, Fitpatrick III with mostly moderate hyperpigmentation and isolated severe. Currently on Obagi Nu-Derm. |
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:59 pm |
| Even expensive LAA serums have a short life span and are not stable. |
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:27 pm |
| True, but the DIY versions are even less so. |
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40, Asian, Fitpatrick III with mostly moderate hyperpigmentation and isolated severe. Currently on Obagi Nu-Derm. |
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:45 pm |
| its_kristy wrote: |
| True, but the DIY versions are even less so. |
Agree, but the price comparison is ridiculous and actually some have posted of buying ready made serums that have already started to oxidize to the point of color change? |
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I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:01 pm |
Believe, I know how ridiculous the price difference because I have bought many a bottle of retail priced Skinceuticals. While I haven't ever bought any that was already oxidized, I have had some that went south before they were gone. And to make it worse, Skinceuticals stated on their box that the product will darken but it will not affect the efficacy (not sure if they still do). And up until I found this forum, I believed them and was using stuff that was a burnt reddish brown! I get so annoyed when I think about it and wonder how much damage I did to my skin.  |
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:11 pm |
| Samples of LLA serum is available for trial there, it looks so clear without oxidizing. I wounder if it really contains the 10% LLA it claims it have & how could the producer make the serum so stable at such a low cost ?? |
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:46 am |
| CLxx wrote: |
| Samples of LLA serum is available for trial there, it looks so clear without oxidizing. I wounder if it really contains the 10% LLA it claims it have & how could the producer make the serum so stable at such a low cost ?? |
What are the ingredients for this serum? If its a rather basic serum its not expensive at all to make.
I recently purchased ingredients to make a C serum and if I remember correctly I think it will cost $7 an ounce to make. For someone who is making larger batches it will be much cheaper.
L-Ascorbic Acid is cheap.
http://www.lotioncrafter.com/ascorbic-acid-ultrafine.html
| its_kristy wrote: |
| Believe, I know how ridiculous the price difference because I have bought many a bottle of retail priced Skinceuticals. While I haven't ever bought any that was already oxidized, I have had some that went south before they were gone. And to make it worse, Skinceuticals stated on their box that the product will darken but it will not affect the efficacy (not sure if they still do) |
Me too. I actually never finished a bottle before it went bad. Its very sad that SC states thier product is still effective. They should, and probably do (how could they not?), know better. |
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:01 pm |
| Hi GirlieGirl, it does not disclose other ingredients except the 10% LLA. I know LLA oxidize easily but the sample seems never. So I am wondering if it contains the 10% LLA geniunely |
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:20 am |
| It sounds like you are not comfortable with this particular brand so for that reason alone I'd pass on it. |
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