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Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:54 am  |
oh my!
The agency I sometimes work for just got in a ton of gratis from a company called H. Wood, that we are supposed to distribute to makeup artists. Our makeup artists all love JH products, so it was a REAL surprise when the H Wood products looked EXACTLY like JH's products. also, we didn't request them, which means that "H Wood" has our information and sent products without any inquiry. To make matters worse I and a few other JH fans have received press announcing the product launch in our personal email accounts!
this is crazy, what is going on here? Can a company so blatantly rip off another company's products?
I love JH and can tell you that H Wood is but a sad, desperate imitation! The products aren't nearly as nice, but they are the same colors, in the same exact packaging--only the fonts and names are different.
I'm going to inquire with them directly annd find out what is going on.
--avalange |
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:01 am |
FYI, the deal is that it is indeed a poor imitation, and JH is taking legal action against them. As they should!!!
I have tried these products and they are terrible, please buy the originals!!!
--avalange |
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http://newnaturalbeauty.tumblr.com/ 37, light-toned olive skin, broken caps, normal skin. My staples: Osea cleansing milk, Algae Oil, Advanced Protection Cream, Eyes & Lips, Tata Harper, Julie Hewett makeup, Amazing Cosmetics Powder, & By Terry Light Expert, Burnout, and daily inversion therapy and green smoothies! |
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:53 pm |
| Thanks for the warning, Avalange! |
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:04 pm |
| What's crazy is that both lines are repped by the same PR firm, Bella PR. I wonder how they'll handle that... |
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:22 pm |
| Interesting. I'd love to do a quality comparison for myself. I have two JH palettes and lippies and truly enjoy them. What is the price comparison between the two lines? I will assume this is to be the draw of one over the other. |
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:36 am |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| Interesting. I'd love to do a quality comparison for myself. I have two JH palettes and lippies and truly enjoy them. What is the price comparison between the two lines? I will assume this is to be the draw of one over the other. |
I have no idea about prices because the H Wood was sent over--probably by Bella PR!--as gratis, aka free!
Interesting, I might contact the PR firm today to see what's up.
I think every JH fan who has encountered H Wood's products is kind of appalled and put off by them... Including myself!
--avalange |
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http://newnaturalbeauty.tumblr.com/ 37, light-toned olive skin, broken caps, normal skin. My staples: Osea cleansing milk, Algae Oil, Advanced Protection Cream, Eyes & Lips, Tata Harper, Julie Hewett makeup, Amazing Cosmetics Powder, & By Terry Light Expert, Burnout, and daily inversion therapy and green smoothies! |
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:14 pm |
What about the Beautyfix program's Julie Hewett lipsticks?
I noticed they have weird names on their website,but it also says "Beautyfix exclusive".
I remember seeing this a few months ago.
It was one of the selections when I had signed up for Beautyfix.
did not order that though...I do not really use lipstick.
http://www.glow.com/product_Noir+Collection+Lipstick_23363.htm
• Oona Noir is a sheer shade of brick red
• Long-lasting
• Moisture-rich
• Richly pigmented
• Rosebud and camellia oils |
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:11 pm |
Thanks for info, avalange...
Never before heard of H Wood but did a very quick google, and the H Wood lippie packaging seems almost identical to Julie Hewett. Why would anyone do that? Don't the H Wood people have their own ideas?
On the H Wood website, the "lip shine tubes" (in similar gold packaging as JH) are listed at US16. |
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:04 pm |
FYI, carmine (also known as cochineal) is red color produced by crushing some scale bugs (yes, you read right!), and extracting carminic acid out of them.
As a food dye it has been known to cause severe allergic reactions and anaphylactic shock in some people.
A request from the Center for Science in the Public Interest (article titled: "FDA Urged to Improve Labeling of or Ban Carmine Food Coloring" http://www.cspinet.org/new/200605011.html [1]) to require ingredient labels to explicitly state that carmine may cause severe allergic reactions and anaphylactic shock and that is derived from insects was declined by the FDA. Food industries were aggressively opposed to the idea of writing "insect based" on the label and they finally agreed to simply putting "carmine".
Moreover carmine has been found to be an irritant to skin and eyes.... With so many inert pigments and micas available, why would you want to put crushed insect juice on YOU? YUCK!!
This FYI for JH lovers - as this is one of the ingredients of Julie Hewett's lipsticks |
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:44 pm |
Did you know that they put Carmine in drinks in Canada.
There is carmine in Fruitopia juice drinks-the red and purple one at least.
When I heard that I never bought those drinks.
(not that i bought them before exept once).
I usually just drink regular fresh juices.
A lot of candy also uses mineral picgment, artificial dyes and carmine also.
I am trying to avoid foods that contain those things.
you can find candy made with vegetable colour in europe more it seems.
(I have some natural fruit jelly candy and paid around $7 for a 600 gram box).
but for food anyways people want pretty colors in their ice cream and food.
I buy fruit sorbet from a store and they use no colors and half their ice creams are very light in color.
pineapple sorbet is while, lemon-white, watermelon-light pink,banana ice cream-beige and "boring looking".
if it was at the store banana ice cream is always bright yellow and fake looking. |
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:41 pm |
Carmine is found in many, many cosmetic brands--Jane Iredale, Bare Escentuals, Burts Bees, Aromaleigh and Lumiere--just to name a few. It's used because it's a natural ingredient, as opposed to the coal tar colors that are used in other cosmetics. Mica and iron oxides are fine for creating some kinds of mineral foundation, but not for true red and pink coloring needed for lipsticks and blushes.
Carmine is a problem for a rare few with sensitivities, vegans, those with religious dietary scruples like Jews and Muslims, and those who don't like the idea of using an insect derived product. Of course, silk powder is even creepier, if you think about it! |
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:39 pm |
lol, not a problem for me since I don't drink the commercial crappy juices full of sugar and color, nor do I eat candy or any premaid processed food.
yes I know about the cosmetics, hence I don't use these and check then ingredients while I am at it too.
Makeup - I use certified organic australian miessence or Dr. H....
Silk powder is actually beneficial for skin, and doesn't creep me out, but crushed insects - yuck! |
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:50 pm |
It's funny what kinds of things bring out "yuck" reactions for different people. Years ago, my friends in Taiwan couldn't believe that we really drank animal milk products--yuck!!--and ate congealed, rotten animal milk--aka cheese!
More for me...  |
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:54 pm |
By the way, if Dr. H stands for Dr. Hauschka, their website says they include carmine in their eyeliner, eyeshadow, lip gloss, lipstick, and mascara.
It's really hard to avoid in cosmetics unless you are willing to use coal tar dyes. |
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:52 am |
this is what i use and it doesn't contain carmine...https://store.drhauschka.com/b2c/ecom/ecomEnduser/items/itemDetail.aspx?&page=&store=&itemNum=TFPL&siteId=1&bulkexists=0
why is it hard to avoid? you have lots of mica variations that can be used instead of carmine, the only thing is i believe mica is more expensive, perhaps that would be the reason. |
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:54 am |
I'm not sure whether mica is more expensive or not. But I think that mica doesn't come in a bright red color, which is needed for colors like red, purple, and pink. I suspect that's why so many of the Dr. H products include carmine--they seem to be products with those colors.
Perhaps their products with more orangy-rust colors are carmine free? |
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:48 pm |
| No, they do come in red - colored mica is mica dyed with pigments like oxides and ultramarines, or in case of red - with red lakes |
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:04 pm |
| zverenok wrote: |
lol, not a problem for me since I don't drink the commercial crappy juices full of sugar and color, nor do I eat candy or any premaid processed food.
yes I know about the cosmetics, hence I don't use these and check then ingredients while I am at it too.
Makeup - I use certified organic australian miessence or Dr. H....
Silk powder is actually beneficial for skin, and doesn't creep me out, but crushed insects - yuck! |
I was reading that Diane Von furstenburg? "DVF" for her clothing like she uses humanely processed silk-there is a special word for it, and she was talking about that one the shopping channel a long time ago,
and there are some explanations about how she and some of the designers get their materials.
I'm sure that does not apply to most silk clothing-but it was an interesting selling point of her line (too bad she is no longer on HSN  ..she had very nice affordable items there).
It was something about letting the butterfiles or whatever hatch from the silk instead of throwing the whole insect nest or whatever into boiling water or chemicals..I remember that much.
I also find that funny that some Asians are repulsed by "fermented milk".
Some of the Asian foods I see are just so odd to me.
one of my friends he really likes the "1,000 year eggs"
it is a rgular egg exept they ferment it and burry it or something until it is fermented and black, then then package that as a delicacy and it is eaten as a snack or in Congee soups.
Some of the Northern Chinese food kind of scares me,
BBQ pidgeon, tripe soup, chicken feet.
I eat at this Northern Chinese restaurant near my house sometimes and some of the menu..is not for me I'll say.
But seems very popular with a lot of Asian people it seems.
-this restaurant they also call their Americanized dishes "Canadian chop suey menu",lol?? 
I guess every culture has stuff they do not like that other people eat!
-if someone is so grossed out by cheese there is always nut and soy or rice cheeses that are ok. |
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