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Would nonchemical sunscreen cause this reaction?
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Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:27 pm      Reply with quote
I switched from Neutrogena Dry Touch sunscreen, which I'd used for a couple of years with no problem, to Blue Lizard Sensitive sunscreen from Australia. It has Zinc Oxide and Titanium Dioxide as the main ingredients. I've been using it about a month. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I've noticed that the skin on my neck is rough and reddish, though not excessively so, and has developed lines. My forearm skin seems a bit drier and papery and I've used the sunscreen there as well. My face doesn't seem to have been affected but it is oilier than my neck so the skin is thicker.
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Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:48 pm      Reply with quote
Maybe it is an ingredient in the Blue Lizard other than the zinc/titanium that doesn't agree with your skin?
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Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:32 pm      Reply with quote
I have noticed that the physical sunscreens do seem to dry my skin out more than the chemical ones.

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Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:20 am      Reply with quote
Physical sunscreens, particularly if they have a high percentage of titanium dioxide and/or zinc oxide can be drying. You may need to use a moisturiser (or a more moisturising one if you already are) underneath it.

Just for your information, Blue Lizard sunscreens are not from Australia, the company isn't Australian (it's a US company) and they aren't (or at least weren't a couple of years back) heard of in Australia. The "Australian Sunscreen" that they claim is all marketing!
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:19 am      Reply with quote
I agree with Bethany and Josh. I love the idea of physical sunscreens but they are very, very drying and I have sensitive skin to boot. I'm thinking of ditching the physical and going back to chemical. I don't like making my skin any drier then it already is.
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:36 pm      Reply with quote
Good to know. I've never read that anywhere. I guess it's back to Neutrogena for my face and neck and I'll just use up the Blue Lizard on my body.
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:54 pm      Reply with quote
If it's true that some people's skin does not react well to zinc oxide based sunscreens, that's really terrible and unfortunate for you. I guess it's hard for me to understand that because my skin loves zinc oxide based sunscreen. If I use a good zinc oxide based sunscreen, that's actually enough to keep it healthy.

I originally set out searching for physical sunscreens because I couldn't tolerate chemical sunscreens. My skin would burn (no pun intended or sun necessary- it would get red and irritated and sensitive and it was pretty awful). [this wouldn't happen every time, but often enough to make me wary of chemical sunscreens] Zinc oxide based sunscreens made everything awesome.

Now I get to call my skin healthy and normal instead of sensitive or whatever else because I don't use anything that would irritate or sensitize my skin. I honestly don't know how or why anyone would react badly to zinc oxide because this is what we use to calm a baby's skin.

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Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:01 pm      Reply with quote
Also, half the time I hear people complaining that they dislike physical sunscreens because they're too greasy, and the other half of the time they're disliked because they're too drying. So which is it? Since these are completely opposite reports, surely it's not every physical sunscreen that's both too rich and too drying?

So the people complaining of dryness should just swap products with the people complainging of greasiness! There are zinc oxide sunscreens at every point of the dryness/greasiness spectrum so surely there will be a sunscreen that fits your skin's needs.

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Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:55 pm      Reply with quote
Nimue, the manufacturers often (but not always) use lots of emollients in their formulas to try and counter any dryness. Sometimes this works, other times it doesn't. If the emollients are sitting on the surface and are not good moisturisers for the individual's skin (remember what works for some doesn't for others) the product could very well be drying to the skin but make the skin appear greasy.

If I wear a sunscreen containing zinc oxide and I get warm, whether it be from being in the sun or just from more physical activity, my skin actually itches quite badly and turns red. This doesn't happen with titanium dioxide (which often has it's own set of problems) or even chemical/organic filters (though these often cause me other forms of irritation too).

Sunscreens are really a very difficult product for many of us.
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:05 am      Reply with quote
Nimue wrote:
Also, half the time I hear people complaining that they dislike physical sunscreens because they're too greasy


That has definitely been my experience with the majority of the physical sunscreens. They are usually greasy. I have never had an issue where the physical ones dried my skin out.

I think sunscreens are one of the hardest products to find for people. It is a very individual thing and you can spend a fortune trying different ones out until you find one that works for you.
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:59 am      Reply with quote
[quote="rileygirl"]
Nimue wrote:
...you can spend a fortune trying different ones out until you find one that works for you.


and then they reformulate it Rolling Eyes
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:33 am      Reply with quote
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rileygirl wrote:
Nimue wrote:
...you can spend a fortune trying different ones out until you find one that works for you.


and then they reformulate it Rolling Eyes


But of course, how else can they drive the happy campers absolutely batty?!? Shock Rolling Eyes Shock Rolling Eyes

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Josh wrote:

and then they reformulate it Rolling Eyes


But of course! Laughing
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Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:31 pm      Reply with quote
Actually, I am going to continue using Blue Lizard on my face,which is a bit oily, so it might counteract that. I'm also hoping it will act as a primer, because of the consistency. Only on my neck and forearm skin, which is a bit dry, will I switch to Neutrogena. I think the only time I noticed stinging from sunscreen was when I used Mexoryl (I think that was the brand) from Canada. It was too oily to use under makeup so I stopped.
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Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:53 pm      Reply with quote
rileygirl wrote:
Nimue wrote:
Also, half the time I hear people complaining that they dislike physical sunscreens because they're too greasy


That has definitely been my experience with the majority of the physical sunscreens. They are usually greasy. I have never had an issue where the physical ones dried my skin out.

I think sunscreens are one of the hardest products to find for people. It is a very individual thing and you can spend a fortune trying different ones out until you find one that works for you.


I thought Nia24 was greasy, yet other people said it was matte!

To Riley's point, it is a very individual thing.

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