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Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:44 am  |
Inspired by a certain skin care brand and their miracle water, I decided to homebrew some of the same....  I reasoned that if they accidentally found this essence in a sake brewing plant then I could do the same in my kitchen. Bring on the homebrew...
After some research I discovered there are two stages to sake making. First stage fermentation by a fungus and second stage fermentation by yeast. Now the product in question claims it's the product of the yeast fermentation but I decided to try both stages of fermentation, just for kicks.
After all rice ferment is rice ferment and no matter what organism is pre-digesting the rice it can only contain the amino acid, vitamin and mineral profile of the rice itself.
So far I've used the product of first stage fermentation and it's really a lovely thing. This 'goo' feels very cooling and firming on the skin. It dries like a mask then rinses off rather easily leaving behind super-soft skin. My skin also feels extremely hydrated and takes up moisturiser more readily. Nice. When I get home feeling like a raisin I apply this onto my skin and it plumps and soothes it no end.
The downside is that this stuff cannot be used daily. When overused it does cause the skin to feel dry on the surface due to what I think is a strong exfoliating effect of the broken down constituents. My skin has a flaking effect and I've noticed that the contents of my pores are expelled rather effectively. It's fine to use a couple of times a week however as a mask and creates a dramatic improvement in the look and feel of my skin. It's non-irritating and a good product.
I've got of batch of 2nd stage fermentation happening now and haven't yet got around to using that. The 2nd stage fermentation is more like water whereas the 1st stage fermentation is like porridge. |
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40, fine porcelain skin, tendency to pigmentation no other issues. Rosehip oil is the cornerstone of my skin care. |
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Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:58 am |
| Sounds like an interesting experiment, NotMeNotYou. Could you tell me more about the fermenting process? I don't know that I'd ever do something like this, but I'd like to know how you go about it. Thanks. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of your 2nd stage. |
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If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? -Albert Einstein |
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Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:16 pm |
Well I bottled my first batch of 2nd stage ferment have tried it on my face and here are my impressions.
It makes a very nice toner. It has skin tightening properties owing largely to the minute amount of alcohol present from the fermentation process. It feels hydrating and refreshing to the skin. But it's no miracle. In fact I'd say it's about on a par with any witch hazel or cucumber toner. And I suspect the rather expensive branded version is the same which gives me no desire to ever purchase it. Any supposed skin brightening effects would only be from naturally occuring AHAs in the ferment (aka lactic acid which naturally occurs with yeast ferments) and is therefore no more specific to this product than to any AHA product.
I think this nicely accounts for the differing experiences of the branded product's users. Those with relatively young skin (20's) seem to report no great change with the use of the essence. While those with more mature skin swear by it. But what I suspect is that's just the more mature skin responding positively to the additional skin tightening and hydrating properties which any toner provides. And to be honest if I'd spent $200 on a bottle of toner I'd be raving about it too, if only to convince myself I hadn't been taken for a ride. Since I made it for a lot less I can afford to be more critical in my assessment.
It's also been reported that you can achieve very similar results simply by mixing a bit of rice flour into water and letting it stand overnight. I imagine that this would attract wild yeasts and begin fermenting on it's own much like sourdough starter does. Certainly rice flour on it's own is very skin softening so I can imagine achieving a similar result with that. Given that rice flour water is immediate and I've spent approx 3 weeks of labour intensive brewing to come up with the same thing I wouldn't bother with creating this essence again.
But it's always fun to separate myth from reality. |
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40, fine porcelain skin, tendency to pigmentation no other issues. Rosehip oil is the cornerstone of my skin care. |
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Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:24 pm |
Now what's had me curious since you began your fermenting experiment, how did you manage stage 1? Finding yeast is a simple thing or bacteria like Lactobacillus in making the LPB, but fungus? And the correct fungus? I am very intrigued!  |
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:19 am |
You need contacts in Japan where the spores are readily available. |
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40, fine porcelain skin, tendency to pigmentation no other issues. Rosehip oil is the cornerstone of my skin care. |
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:54 am |
| NotMeNotYou wrote: |
| You need contacts in Japan where the spores are readily available. |
Thanks NMNY! I was just wondering how you managed that, but having the right contacts always helps! |
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